Marco wrote with respect to the "Security BoF, relation between (IoT) devices and infrastructure" “… a BoF to explore the link between insecure devices and infrastructure security and stability, especially what we would like to discuss is the possible role of the access providers in the system. •What role do service providers want to play? •What role can service providers play? •What do we need from manufacturers? •What is the role of governments? “ Anna then posted afterwards with respect to the “proto-charter”: "The Internet of Things working group will work on the areas of: - what role do service providers want to play - what role can service providers play - what do we need from manufacturers - engaging with governments and regulators - educating stakeholders - recommendations for vendors, service providers, end users and relevant stakeholders” Peter has pointed out that we have a specific WG for engaging with government and regulators. NCC also has its regular roundtable meetings with that community. And NCC is also a member of AIOTI and is involved with the ITU in the IOT area. The IOT ought to be of interest to the IPv6 WG of course. But then looking down the list of WGs it is almost easier to say which WGs may not have an interest. Except I guess they might still disagree. So I am not completely clear - after yesterday and maybe particularly also after the inputs from Marco and Jim? - whether we want to restrict any future WG only to “security”. I believe we need an IOT WG. And not just an IOT Security WG. Even if the initial emphasis may be on security. With all of the above in mind I think I can remain comfortable enough with the proto-charter until we get initial agreement tomorrow. And then we can work on the real charter. Gordon ——— https://twitter.com/internetofshit Scott Helme @Scott_Helme Just waiting for the menu to boot so I can order breakfast…