Hi, in my (humble) opionion we've all to cooperate to preserve the "End-to-end" principle of "the" internet. Any middleware or filter *imposed* by SPs violates this principle. Indeed, a "rule" to fully disconnect a connection service because of compromised "things" would never be probably accepted by regulation. The internet has evolved till now because intelligence has migrated in the edges, outside the core network. The devices have to be secure, and security has to be implemented on the end point (CPEs ?, user protection devices ?, virual protection devices ?). Yes, it can be a security service given by customer's SP, but it *has* to be a security service which can be deactivated or activated by demand of the customer. The customer has to be able to buy a connection service *without* the protection service. Many SPs blocking, for example, port 25, generally do not allow any way to bypass this filter. This is not acceptable. An access service with blocked ports is *not* an internet access service. Moreover compromised devices may arise issues also at a local level... things have to be fixed, not filtered. End-to-end is the mantra. Giuliano ----- Messaggio originale ----- Da: "Jim Reid" <jim@rfc1035.com> A: "Peter Koch" <pk@DENIC.DE> Cc: iot-discussion@ripe.net Inviato: Lunedì, 10 aprile 2017 16:00:13 Oggetto: Re: [iot-discussion] What role does the SP play in protecting consumers re IoT?
On 10 Apr 2017, at 14:44, Peter Koch <pk@DENIC.DE> wrote:
Most of these T&C were drafted in an era when the Internet was mostly ???entertainment???. Are these still proportional when I even can???t pay my taxes without access to the Internet?
or operate your heating
Thanks to the EU’s enthusiasm for smart meters, this is going happen with or without IoT pixie dust. The shiny new meters allow utility company computers cut you off if they think you’ve not paid your bill on time. The power companies won’t need to send someone round to physically cut the supply. For bonus points, now imagine the possibilities when customers switch energy providers or tariffs. What could possibly go wrong? _______________________________________________ iot-discussion mailing list iot-discussion@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/iot-discussion -- -- Giuliano Peritore - g.peritore@panservice.it Direzione Generale - Panservice Servizi professionali per Internet ed il Networking Telefono: +39 0773 410020 - Fax +39 0773 470219 Numero verde: 800 901492 - http://www.panservice.it