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Agenda for RIPE 80
by Jim Reid 11 May '20

11 May '20

Colleagues, here is the agenda for the WG session on Thursday. Please note the timings are just for guidance. Some topics might need a minute or so more/less than the amount they’ve been allocated. See you all (virtually) on Thursday! 1) Administrivia (5 mins) Conferencing tools reminder Minutes from RIPE79 Update on WG document on Mitigating IoT Attacks 2) NCC IoT Update (5 mins) Marco Hogewoning 3) Preparing SMEs for IoT security standards and regulation (5 mins) Stacie Hoffman, Oxford Information Labs The IoT Security Foundation and Oxford Information Labs are collaborating to help industry adopt baseline security requirements in the consumer marketplace. New published guidance and webinars coming soon. 4) WG co-chair appointment (5 mins) Jim Reid 5) AOB (1 min)

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Re: [iot-wg] Peter Steinhaeuser for co-chair (Anna Mandalari)
by Mandalari, Anna Maria 08 May '20

08 May '20

Hi, I support Peter's candidacy. Anna > On 22 Apr 2020, at 12:57, iot-wg-request(a)ripe.net wrote: > > > ******************* > This email originates from outside Imperial. Do not click on links and attachments unless you recognise the sender. > If you trust the sender, add them to your safe senders list https://spam.ic.ac.uk/SpamConsole/Senders.aspx to disable email stamping for this address. > ******************* > Send iot-wg mailing list submissions to > iot-wg(a)ripe.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/iot-wg > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > iot-wg-request(a)ripe.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > iot-wg-owner(a)ripe.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of iot-wg digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: it's co-chair selection time! (Peter Steinh?user) > 2. Peter Steinhaeuser for co-chair (Peter Steinh?user) > 3. EdgeSys 2020 Participation (Aaron Ding) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:12:14 +0200 > From: Peter Steinh?user <ps(a)embedd.com> > To: IoT WG RIPE <iot-wg(a)ripe.net> > Subject: Re: [iot-wg] it's co-chair selection time! > Message-ID: <4EDE0B10-1D6D-4981-907D-0412677AFA7D(a)embedd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > First of all I want to thank Jim for his great work for this working group and his years commitment as a working group chair! > > For the designation of a new working group co-chair I put my hat (again) into the ring. > > I'm seriously concerned about the impact malicious IoT devices will have on the internet's infrastructure. My goal in the working group is defining best practices and standards about how can be best dealt with IoT devices pro-actively to keep the attacks that are already onging and will come to happen under control. Besides that I want to work on providing players from the IoT industry with better practices and - if possible - technical solutions while working with regulators to create better standards that help providing security and privacy. > > Coming from a home gateway/personal router/CPE background (DD-WRT / OpenWRT) such devices are for me potential gatekeepers that can play an important role in securing millions home small networks. Also ISP's should be brought on board, it's in their sole interest as well. To have an effect we need to try to gain a maximum traction in the industry. > > There are already activities (SPIN / IETF home gateway WG, etc.) in this field. As a working group chair I would focus working on connecting the ongoing activities to form technical standards and reference implementations for easy adoption by the industry. I would also work on advocating those to industry players (i.e. via Broadband Forum & prpl Foundation) to get broader support for these activities as well. In my role as project manager for the open source projects in the prpl Foundation I also work on selecting security related technologies for adoption / funding by the prpl Foundation and it's members. > > Being a RIPE member since years and becoming more and more familiar with the works of standardization organizations I am eager to learn more about the proceedings and how to better support the RIPE-community and other standardization organizations. > > It would be my pleasure to work closer with all of you for the better of the internet. > > Sincerly, > Peter > >> Am 20.04.2020 um 18:44 schrieb Jim Reid <jim(a)rfc1035.com>: >> >> My term as WG co-chair ends at RIPE80 or theresabouts. I will not be standing for another term. First of all, bringing in new and hopefully younger faces to freshen things up is long overdue. Second, I only volunteered to bootstrap the new WG. That has been completed. So it?s time to step away and let the WG find somebody else. >> >> There?s some info on WG co-chair responsibilities in RIPE692. Anyone interested in applying who wants more advice on what the job entails, likely time commitments and so on is welcome to contact Sandoche or myself. Or any other recent/current WG co-chair for that matter. >> >> I would also ask potential candidates to start a *new thread* -- eg "Your name for co-chair" or something like that -- when they post on the list so there are meaningful and relevant Subject: headers which make it easier to make a consensus judgement. It?ll save the current co-chairs reading every message on the mailing list to decide if they contain something in favour or against a particular candidate. This will also make it clearer for other members of the list to express their support (or not) for a candidate. >> >> Anyone can volunteer to become a co-chair and you can even nominate yourself. There?s no requirement to have N people nominating a candidate for them be considered for selection (for values of N > 1). >> >> Ideally, it would be good to be able to announce the new co-chair at RIPE80. Though that could be too short notice since the meeting?s just under 4 weeks away. If you think more time is needed to decide, please speak up. There?s no firm deadline and we should take our time about making this appointment - provided of course the new co-chair is in place in plenty of time for RIPE81. Although I think 4 weeks (ish) should be long enough to find a new co-chair, this is for the WG to decide too. >> _______________________________________________ >> iot-wg mailing list >> iot-wg(a)ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/iot-wg > > > Peter Steinh?user, CEO > embeDD GmbH ? Alter Postplatz 2 ? 6370 Stans ? Switzerland > Phone: +41 (41) 784 95 85 ? Fax: +41 (41) 784 95 64 > > >

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Support Constanze Dietrich for co-chair
by Jetten Raymond 07 May '20

07 May '20

Hello, I would also like to express my support for Constanze as a co-chair of the iot-wg, Greetings, Ray For Internal Use Only

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Re: [iot-wg] Peter Steinhaeuser for co-chair
by Ulf Kieber 06 May '20

06 May '20

I support Peter's candidacy. Ulf On Wed, 22 April 2020, Peter Steinhäuser <ps(a)embedd.com> wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I am resending my application since I - shame on me - did not follow the recommendation of Jim to start a new e-mail thread with my application - as stated below I’m still learning but I’m eager to ;) > > First of all I want to thank Jim for his great work for this working group and his years commitment as a working group chair! > > For the designation of a new working group co-chair I put my hat (again) into the ring. > .... -- Ulf Kieber Managing Director Phone: +49 30 2332195 20 Mobile: +49 171 5848914 Skype: ulfkieber Threema: WEAK876B BCIX Management GmbH Geneststraße 5 10829 Berlin Germany https://www.bcix.de/ https://twitter.com/bcix https://www.linkedin.com/company/bcix/ https://www.facebook.com/BCIX.Internet.Exchange

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Constanze Dietrich for co-chair
by Constanze Dietrich 03 May '20

03 May '20

Hi everyone! It’s nice to see the support for Peter as I think he’s a well eligible candidate and I agree with his approach on many levels. That said, I’d like to provide another option by venturing to nominate myself! TL;DR: [Jump to the last paragraph! -->] Now mostly remembered for my comics, I was introduced to the RIPE community at RIPE 74 as part of the RACI program and spoke about my master studies on human factors as security risks in IT operations. Later that year, I was invited to talk at the first RIPE IoT Roundtable Meeting in Leeds where I got to discuss the implications of my studies for the IoT, as well as the implications of rapidly and diversely spreading IoT technologies for the RIPE NCC – the latter of which shortly after has been moved to its own working group! :) Meanwhile, I work for an IT management consultancy and have not seen a single strategy paper without IoT as a focus topic. Having a considerable number of clients in the energy sector, all of them urged onto the trail of “smart everything”, I’m well and truly concerned about the various approaches they take as, one or two steps further, the security impact on critical infrastructures even beyond the Internet could be disastrous. We do indeed need best practices and standards, which is why such endeavours will, by all means, get my full support. Thereby though, we should not forget that, despite existing standards, the IoT is still a huge playground and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. “Internet all the things!”, whether or not there’s a quality seal attached. Hence, to date and from my point of view as someone who studies more service contracts than she’d like, I also see a very high value in creating governance concepts for IoT networks. The role of ISPs in this, e.g. as a kill switch, has been discussed before, and we should develop a position on responsibilities and liability within (and outside) those infrastructures. [-->] My specific fields of interests aside, my main goal as a co-chair is to enable the members of the working group to get into an active exchange – be it by co-organising another IoT hackathon and presenting the results in the IoT session which has been (a lot of work but also) a huge pleasure for me before and during RIPE 79, by documenting and communicating topics of the WG (with or without comics), or by providing the enterprise perspective and a link to a variety of industries that employ IoT technologies. We’re a comparatively new and still somewhat inactive working group and I’d like to change that. Cheers from Berlin! ~ Constanze

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Fwd: Constanze nomination
by Jim Reid 29 Apr '20

29 Apr '20

FYI The message below from the web services team is a little confusing because the underlying problem is the RIPE Forum thing is read-only. Write access to the Forum -- ie posting to WG lists -- stopped a while ago because it was being misused to send spam. Not that this matters much in the context of what Salam was trying to say. The key point here is Salam supports Constanze’s bid for WG co-chair. > Begin forwarded message: > > From: iot-wg-owner(a)ripe.net > Date: Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 11:41 PM > Subject: Constanze nomination > To: salamyamout(a)gmail.com > > > Hi there, > > We can see that you tried to send an email to the Internet of Things > Working Group. Unfortunately, we have to reject this email because > it’s been sent from an email address that is not subscribed to this > list. > > To make sure your email goes through to the mailing list first check > that you are using the email address with which you subscribed to the > list. If you sent your email from the wrong address, simply resend it > from the correct email address. > > If you want to use this email address to join the discussion on the > mailing list, then subscribe to the mailing list and resend your email > after your subscription has been confirmed. > > You can contact iot-wg-owner(a)ripe.net <mailto:iot-wg-owner@ripe.net> if > you need any further help. > > Best wishes, > > Web Services Team The RIPE NCC > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Salam Yamout <salamyamout(a)gmail.com <mailto:salamyamout@gmail.com>> > To: iot-wg(a)ripe.net <mailto:iot-wg@ripe.net> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 23:40:58 +0300 > Subject: Constanze nomination > Dear Chair of the IOT wg > I support the nomination of Constanze as co-chair for the relevance of > her experience and her good integration in the community > I hope that this nomination will be considered > Best > Salam Yamout

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Fwd: [ripe.net #1327526] RIPE Forum - IoT WG mailing list problem
by Jim Reid 28 Apr '20

28 Apr '20

It appears the original complaint was a mistake. Perhaps someone was confused. The RIPE Forum is a read-only medium and people aren’t able to post comments there. No matter. My earlier comment still holds. Expressions of support for co-chair candidates have to be posted on this list. You can’t use RIPE Forum for that even if you wanted to. Thanks to Marita for looking into this. > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Marita Phelan" <webmaster(a)ripe.net> > Subject: [ripe.net #1327526] RIPE Forum - IoT WG mailing list problem > Date: 28 April 2020 at 14:10:18 BST > To: jim(a)rfc1035.com > Cc: sandoche.balakrichenan(a)afnic.fr > Reply-To: webmaster(a)ripe.net > > I've been doing some checking in the meantime - due to the spam problems we had previously, we closed the forum for posting. It's available in read-only mode, so people can't have been posting comments there anyway.

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RIPE Forum issues and the co-chair selection process
by Jim Reid 28 Apr '20

28 Apr '20

It has been brought to my attention that people have been posting support for co-chair candidates on the RIPE Forum, presumably assuming these messages would reach the mailing list. They don't. Or at the very least some list members aren't seeing those messages of support. I don’t know why that is and haved opened a ticket with the NCC’s webmaster. I’ll let you know what they have to say. FWIW the forum-to-list relaying probably got killed or manually moderated to put an end to the spam that used to be injected into the list via the forum’s web page. If you want to express support for the co-chair candidiates, please comment *on the list* and not via the RIPE Forum. Thanks. The mailing list is where we take consensus decisions. Comments on the RIPE Forum might not reach the list. And if/when they do, Sandoche and I may need to make subjective decisions about whether those Forum comments are genuine or not. Which will be awkward.

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EdgeSys 2020 Participation
by Aaron Ding 22 Apr '20

22 Apr '20

For colleagues interested in IoT, edge computing, edge learning/analytics, EdgeSys'20 programme is now online: https://edge-sys.github.io/2020/programme.html If you'd like to participate, there is an exceptional policy of waiving registration fees for EuroSys and EdgeSys (subject to capacity constraints): https://www.eurosys2020.org/registration/ Look forward to greeting you virtually at EdgeSys next Monday. Cheers, Aaron -- Head of Cyber-Physical Intelligence (CPI) Lab http://homepage.tudelft.nl/8e79t/

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Cyber-Physical Systems and Internet-of-Things Week : Online / Virtual event, April 21-24 2020
by Vesna Manojlovic 20 Apr '20

20 Apr '20

Dear colleagues, this might be interested to the IoT-WG, e.g.: https://conferences.computer.org/iotDI/2020/ & http://open-storm.org/workshop-cps2020/ Please see more event details below. Regards, Vesna Manojlovic Community Builder RIPE NCC -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Katia Jaffrès-Runser <kjr(a)ENSEEIHT.FR> CPS-IoT Week 2020 (April 21-24) offers complementary registrations to non-authors for the four conferences it brings together : IPSN, ICCPS, HSCC and RTAS, plus guest conferences and workshops : https://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~cpsiot/cpsweek2020/index.html You can find below the IPSN 2020 General Chair's message that invites you to attend this virtual edition. Stay safe, Damla and Katia N2Women Co-Chairs > Please see below an invitation from the IPSN 2020 general chair to > join this year’s conference at no cost in its new, virtual format. > > ===================================================================================== > > Dear IPSN community,____ > > __ __ > > We are excited to invite you to attend IPSN 2020 for free, from the > comfort of your home office! Please visit our website to see the > detailed program and registration > links: https://ipsn.acm.org/2020/program.html____ > > __ __ > > Also see the attached documents for the event highlights and to learn > more about the virtual format and collaborative tools we provide.____ > > __ __ > > On behalf of the organizing committee, I would like to encourage you > to participate and actively use all of the available tools to connect, > exchange ideas, and provide constructive criticism.____ > > ____ > > Stay safe!____ > > __ __ > > Brano Kusy____ > > IPSN'20 General Chair____ > > brano.kusy(a)csiro.au <mailto:brano.kusy@csiro.au> >

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