April 2021 - iot-wg - mailman.ripe.net

it's co-chair selection time!
by Jim Reid 16 May '22

16 May '22

My term as WG co-chair ends at RIPE80 or theresabouts. I will not be standing for another term. First of all, bringing in new and hopefully younger faces to freshen things up is long overdue. Second, I only volunteered to bootstrap the new WG. That has been completed. So it’s time to step away and let the WG find somebody else. There’s some info on WG co-chair responsibilities in RIPE692. Anyone interested in applying who wants more advice on what the job entails, likely time commitments and so on is welcome to contact Sandoche or myself. Or any other recent/current WG co-chair for that matter. I would also ask potential candidates to start a *new thread* -- eg "Your name for co-chair" or something like that -- when they post on the list so there are meaningful and relevant Subject: headers which make it easier to make a consensus judgement. It’ll save the current co-chairs reading every message on the mailing list to decide if they contain something in favour or against a particular candidate. This will also make it clearer for other members of the list to express their support (or not) for a candidate. Anyone can volunteer to become a co-chair and you can even nominate yourself. There’s no requirement to have N people nominating a candidate for them be considered for selection (for values of N > 1). Ideally, it would be good to be able to announce the new co-chair at RIPE80. Though that could be too short notice since the meeting’s just under 4 weeks away. If you think more time is needed to decide, please speak up. There’s no firm deadline and we should take our time about making this appointment - provided of course the new co-chair is in place in plenty of time for RIPE81. Although I think 4 weeks (ish) should be long enough to find a new co-chair, this is for the WG to decide too.

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PUBLISHED: Architectural Considerations for IoT Device Security in the Home (ripe-759)
by Constanze Dietrich 30 Apr '21

30 Apr '21

Hi everyone! The joint effort of Eliot Lear, Michael Richardson, Phil Stanhope, Peter Steinhäuser, Jelte Jansen, Jan Žorž and Sandoche Balakrichenan (and former IoT WG co-chair Jim Reid who prefers to remain unmentioned... whoops.) has been published! https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-759 Thanks for the great work! Cheers Constanze

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Re: [iot-wg] [IoT WG Focus]
by Constanze Dietrich 23 Apr '21

23 Apr '21

Hi Peter! I think that's a great idea! Indeed, finding overlaps and ways to collaborate with other WGs was one of the ideas of the survey. I had posted it to the RIPE general mailing list as well but have only gotten very few responses from non-members (Btw... 11 responses from IoT WG members -- also not quite the quota I had hoped we'd be looking at...). In the back of my head, opportunities to work together are still best discussed in person over beverages, but I'd be happy to see IoT WG members sharing the link on other WG lists to get some more feedback before RIPE 82 (and thus, possibly more ideas to be discussed in the slot Sandoche and I saved for the results in the session agenda)! Cheers! Constanze > > > *Von: *Peter Steinhäuser <ps(a)embedd.com> > > *Betreff: Aw: [iot-wg] [IoT WG Focus]* > > *Datum: *23. April 2021 um 15:49:50 MESZ > > *An: *sandoche Balakrichenan <sandoche.balakrichenan(a)afnic.fr> > > *Kopie: *IoT WG RIPE <iot-wg(a)ripe.net> > > > > Dear Sandoche, > > > > I am totally on your page on keeping the charter wide - it was not my > intention to open an discussion about this. > > > > Nevertheless to find out topics of interest for the group we also could > think about asking other WGs about sharing the survey to gather more > feedback (?) > > > > - Peter > > > > Am 22.04.2021 um 16:36 schrieb sandoche Balakrichenan < > sandoche.balakrichenan(a)afnic.fr>: > > > > Dear Peter, > > I completely agree with your views that the WG is not as active. > > The charter scope was the line of discussion, when the WG was formed : > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/iot-wg/2017-November/subject.html#2… > > With Constanze, we have discussed means to identify the the WG members > requirements. Constanze had even sent a survey in this objective: > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdVVq38C96Mn_Lv8eDgiHGzt3TgzPfx_MM… > > IMHO, we will keep the scope for the charter wide, but if there are > activities focusing on a particular domain, it is always positive. > > Sandoche. > > > > On 22/04/2021 14:34, Peter Steinhäuser wrote: > > Dear collegues, > > > > since this working group was founded I feel that it never really got > traction and struggled a bit to find it’s place in the RIPE community. Also > there is not much activity, despite the working group's chair’s and some > member’s efforts (hackathons, BCOP document, survey) to motivate WG members > to participate more actively. > > > > The WG’s charter covers a huge field of possible activities around IoT > while (to me it seems) other WG’s have more focus. I may be wrong but I > think that this lack of focus makes it more difficult for this WG to > organize joint activities. The majority of the activities of the > (technical) RIPE WG’s are centered around IP and IP based networks > therefore I think focusing on similar areas could help this WG to become a > more lively part of the RIPE community. > > > > An example could be analysis and research around the thread protocol of > the Project Connected Home over IP of the ZigBee Alliance. Based upon IPv6 > and with products from major players already shipping this could be one > possible field of activity that connects with other WG’s areas of expertise. > > > > I would be glad to hear your opinions! > > > > Thanks and best regards, > > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > > iot-wg mailing list > > iot-wg(a)ripe.net > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/iot-wg > > -- > > Sandoche BALAKRICHENAN > > Head of R&D Partnerships @ Afnic > > LoRaWAN Academia WG Chair & RIPE IoT WG Co-Chair > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > iot-wg mailing list > iot-wg(a)ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/iot-wg > > > > > > *Peter Steinhäuser, CEO* > embeDD GmbH · Alter Postplatz 2 · 6370 Stans · Switzerland > Phone: +41 (41) 784 95 85 · Fax: +41 (41) 784 95 64 > > > > >

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[IoT WG Focus]
by Peter Steinhäuser 23 Apr '21

23 Apr '21

Dear collegues, since this working group was founded I feel that it never really got traction and struggled a bit to find it’s place in the RIPE community. Also there is not much activity, despite the working group's chair’s and some member’s efforts (hackathons, BCOP document, survey) to motivate WG members to participate more actively. The WG’s charter covers a huge field of possible activities around IoT while (to me it seems) other WG’s have more focus. I may be wrong but I think that this lack of focus makes it more difficult for this WG to organize joint activities. The majority of the activities of the (technical) RIPE WG’s are centered around IP and IP based networks therefore I think focusing on similar areas could help this WG to become a more lively part of the RIPE community. An example could be analysis and research around the thread protocol of the Project Connected Home over IP of the ZigBee Alliance. Based upon IPv6 and with products from major players already shipping this could be one possible field of activity that connects with other WG’s areas of expertise. I would be glad to hear your opinions! Thanks and best regards, Peter Peter Steinhäuser, CEO embeDD GmbH · Alter Postplatz 2 · 6370 Stans · Switzerland Phone: +41 (41) 784 95 85 · Fax: +41 (41) 784 95 64

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Sandoche for co-chair
by Jetten Raymond 13 Apr '21

13 Apr '21

From: iot-wg <iot-wg-bounces(a)ripe.net> On Behalf Of Constanze Dietrich Sent: tiistai 13. huhtikuuta 2021 13.00 To: iot-wg(a)ripe.net Subject: [iot-wg] It's co-chair selection time! Again! I think Sandoche has done (just as you btw) a great job, i would like that he continuous as is now. Rgds, Ray Hi everyone! Sandoche's term as IoT WG co-chair is about to end with RIPE 82. Spoiler alert: He'll be standing again to serve another term, if the WG decides so. :) I want to encourage everyone interested in this role to get familiar with the WG co-chair responsibilities (https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-692) and put themselves forward. Of course you can also nominate someone else, provided they're a WG member and up for the job. As I'll have to keep track and, after all, have to make a judgement on consensus, I would ask for each candidate to start a new thread with, e.g., "[name] for co-chair", and for members to utter their support by replying to the respective thread. Please note: We don't vote; meaning: You're absolutely free to support as many candidates as you want and see fit for the role. Provided there are no reasoned objections from the WG, I'd like to set the IoT WG session at RIPE82 as a deadline to make (and announce) the decision. If you'd like further information about the duties (and joys) as a co-chair -- especially in the context of RIPE Meetings -- don't hesitate to contact me or Sandoche. I'd be happy to share the information and observations collected over the past year. :) Have a nice day! Constanze For Internal Use Only

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It's co-chair selection time! Again!
by Constanze Dietrich 13 Apr '21

13 Apr '21

Hi everyone! Sandoche's term as IoT WG co-chair is about to end with RIPE 82. Spoiler alert: He'll be standing again to serve another term, if the WG decides so. :) I want to encourage everyone interested in this role to get familiar with the WG co-chair responsibilities ( https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-692) and put themselves forward. Of course you can also nominate someone else, provided they're a WG member and up for the job. As I'll have to keep track and, after all, have to make a judgement on consensus, I would ask for each candidate to start a new thread with, e.g., "[name] for co-chair", and for members to utter their support by replying to the respective thread. Please note: We don't vote; meaning: You're absolutely free to support as many candidates as you want and see fit for the role. Provided there are no reasoned objections from the WG, I'd like to set the IoT WG session at RIPE82 as a deadline to make (and announce) the decision. If you'd like further information about the duties (and joys) as a co-chair -- especially in the context of RIPE Meetings -- don't hesitate to contact me or Sandoche. I'd be happy to share the information and observations collected over the past year. :) Have a nice day! Constanze

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