Re: [enum-wg] COCOM & ENUM ...
BTW: Access to the production system is restricted to the TSPs with officially assigned numering blocks by "Office of Telecommunications and Post Regulation" in Poland.
There is only one "minor" problem with the implementation in Poland: It is Carrier E**M in e164.arpa -richard ________________________________ Von: enum-wg-admin@ripe.net im Auftrag von Andrzej Bartosiewicz Gesendet: Sa 11.12.2004 16:55 An: Carsten Schiefner Cc: enum-wg@ripe.net Betreff: Re: [enum-wg] COCOM & ENUM ... Carsten, The answer is: Yes. We have switched over to production 6 months ago. You missed my presentation in Sophia Antipolis... :) Every TSP in Poland with assigned numbering block may sign the contract with NASK and start the registration of ENUM domain names in 8.4.e164.arpa (5 EURO/year). BTW: Access to the production system is restricted to the TSPs with officially assigned numering blocks by "Office of Telecommunications and Post Regulation" in Poland. We also have the "testing" system, so everybody (not only TSPs) can test the full functionality. The only difference is that we do not export domain names to zone file from the "testing" system. Andrzej. On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Carsten Schiefner wrote:
Hi Andrzej,
thanks for the link - on p. 4 it reads: "Production registry launch: May 19, 2004".
Did I completely miss a according announcement on all of my ENUM related lists (and there are some! ;-) or did NASK switch over to production in absolute silence?
Best,
-C.
I wouldn't consider that to be a problem but a benefit. Just because the TSPs registerthe ENUM domains and administer the zone data, does not mean that will keep them from offering a front-end for users/customers. They will be forced to do that for reasons of rationality. Think of the workload if a TSP had a call center up and running just to get everybody's data into the DNS/ENUM-system. Carrier-based ENUM is probably the easiest (maybe not the best) way to protect the privacy of customer data. Greetings John-Erik Horn VoIP Project Manager toplink-plannet GmbH Schönfeldstraße 8 76131 Karlsruhe Tel: +49-721-663-6450 Fax: +49-721-663-6199
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: enum-wg-admin@ripe.net [mailto:enum-wg-admin@ripe.net] Im Auftrag von Stastny Richard Gesendet: Samstag, 11. Dezember 2004 18:28 An: Andrzej Bartosiewicz; Carsten Schiefner Cc: enum-wg@ripe.net Betreff: Re: [enum-wg] COCOM & ENUM ...
BTW: Access to the production system is restricted to the TSPs with officially assigned numering blocks by "Office of Telecommunications and Post Regulation" in Poland.
There is only one "minor" problem with the implementation in Poland: It is Carrier E**M in e164.arpa -richard
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Von: enum-wg-admin@ripe.net im Auftrag von Andrzej Bartosiewicz Gesendet: Sa 11.12.2004 16:55 An: Carsten Schiefner Cc: enum-wg@ripe.net Betreff: Re: [enum-wg] COCOM & ENUM ...
Carsten,
The answer is: Yes. We have switched over to production 6 months ago. You missed my presentation in Sophia Antipolis... :)
Every TSP in Poland with assigned numbering block may sign the contract with NASK and start the registration of ENUM domain names in 8.4.e164.arpa (5 EURO/year).
BTW: Access to the production system is restricted to the TSPs with officially assigned numering blocks by "Office of Telecommunications and Post Regulation" in Poland. We also have the "testing" system, so everybody (not only TSPs) can test the full functionality. The only difference is that we do not export domain names to zone file from the "testing" system.
Andrzej.
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Carsten Schiefner wrote:
Hi Andrzej,
thanks for the link - on p. 4 it reads: "Production registry launch: May 19, 2004".
Did I completely miss a according announcement on all of my ENUM related lists (and there are some! ;-) or did NASK switch over to production in absolute silence?
Best,
-C.
At 08:24 AM 12/12/2004, John-Erik Horn wrote:
I wouldn't consider that to be a problem but a benefit. Just because the TSPs registerthe ENUM domains and administer the zone data, does not mean that will keep them from offering a front-end for users/customers. They will be forced to do that for reasons of rationality. Think of the workload if a TSP had a call center up and running just to get everybody's data into the DNS/ENUM-system.
Carrier-based ENUM is probably the easiest (maybe not the best) way to protect the privacy of customer data.
Which BTW is why it is a good idea to keep it out of e164.arpa Now since our ICANN folks have just approved .MOBI ..maybe the carriers will go back to the ITU and get e164.int and we can end this issue once and for all.
Greetings
John-Erik Horn VoIP Project Manager toplink-plannet GmbH Schönfeldstraße 8 76131 Karlsruhe Tel: +49-721-663-6450 Fax: +49-721-663-6199
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: enum-wg-admin@ripe.net [mailto:enum-wg-admin@ripe.net] Im Auftrag von Stastny Richard Gesendet: Samstag, 11. Dezember 2004 18:28 An: Andrzej Bartosiewicz; Carsten Schiefner Cc: enum-wg@ripe.net Betreff: Re: [enum-wg] COCOM & ENUM ...
BTW: Access to the production system is restricted to the TSPs with officially assigned numering blocks by "Office of Telecommunications and Post Regulation" in Poland.
There is only one "minor" problem with the implementation in Poland: It is Carrier E**M in e164.arpa -richard
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Von: enum-wg-admin@ripe.net im Auftrag von Andrzej Bartosiewicz Gesendet: Sa 11.12.2004 16:55 An: Carsten Schiefner Cc: enum-wg@ripe.net Betreff: Re: [enum-wg] COCOM & ENUM ...
Carsten,
The answer is: Yes. We have switched over to production 6 months ago. You missed my presentation in Sophia Antipolis... :)
Every TSP in Poland with assigned numbering block may sign the contract with NASK and start the registration of ENUM domain names in 8.4.e164.arpa (5 EURO/year).
BTW: Access to the production system is restricted to the TSPs with officially assigned numering blocks by "Office of Telecommunications and Post Regulation" in Poland. We also have the "testing" system, so everybody (not only TSPs) can test the full functionality. The only difference is that we do not export domain names to zone file from the "testing" system.
Andrzej.
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Carsten Schiefner wrote:
Hi Andrzej,
thanks for the link - on p. 4 it reads: "Production registry launch: May 19, 2004".
Did I completely miss a according announcement on all of my ENUM related lists (and there are some! ;-) or did NASK switch over to production in absolute silence?
Best,
-C.
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It's not the Carrier ENUM. The entries are in the 8.4.e164.arpa tree in the _public_ DNS. Andrzej On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Stastny Richard wrote:
BTW: Access to the production system is restricted to the TSPs with officially assigned numering blocks by "Office of Telecommunications and Post Regulation" in Poland.
There is only one "minor" problem with the implementation in Poland: It is Carrier E**M in e164.arpa -richard
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