
On 6 Jun 2007, at 13:27, Miguel Ponce de Leon wrote:
Ireland we are giving the end users a chance to see if there is innovation to be gained from using/deploying ENUM (As in home subscribers can register unlike the situation in Finland).
I'm not sure that it's quite as difficult as you suggest in Finland. Formally (IIUC), the situation is the same: the Tier-1 registry (FICORA, IENUM) only deals with Tier-2 registrars/service-providers. As a startup initiative, IENUM is offering an interim Tier-2 registrar-of-last-resort service. It may be that there is a sufficient number of approachable Tier-2 service providers in Finland for this not to be needed over there. I don't know. Certainly, the FICORA web site seems to avoid giving any helpful hint. Maybe Klaus would like to comment? /Niall

Dear all, The problem we are facing currently with the user ENUM is that the validation requires support from the operators and compared to the discussion we had when choosing the validations model, the operators seem to have lost all their interest to support the service. Therefore we have currently only 1 operator that is offering the validation service. I'm planning to make a proposal to remove the operator control over the validation. If the situation won't change, we are likely to do this change in a near future. What comes to the other functions (regiatration and Tier 2-services), we have not seen any problems with them. And if we face problems like a lack of service providers, I think that should be easy to correct anyway :) In the end I have to apologize, because I'm do not aware of the topic you are actually discussing. Anyway I hope this helps. In my vocabulary IENUM = Infrastructure/Operator/Carrier ENUM that is totally a different story. That is being deveoped with a good speed... regards, - Klaus ________________________________ Lähettäjä: Niall O'Reilly [mailto:Niall.oReilly@no8.be] Lähetetty: to 7.6.2007 17:24 Vastaanottaja: Miguel Ponce de Leon Kopio: Niall O'Reilly; Nieminen Klaus; enum-wg@ripe.net; David Malone Aihe: Re: ENUM in the blogosphere On 6 Jun 2007, at 13:27, Miguel Ponce de Leon wrote:
Ireland we are giving the end users a chance to see if there is innovation to be gained from using/deploying ENUM (As in home subscribers can register unlike the situation in Finland).
I'm not sure that it's quite as difficult as you suggest in Finland. Formally (IIUC), the situation is the same: the Tier-1 registry (FICORA, IENUM) only deals with Tier-2 registrars/service-providers. As a startup initiative, IENUM is offering an interim Tier-2 registrar-of-last-resort service. It may be that there is a sufficient number of approachable Tier-2 service providers in Finland for this not to be needed over there. I don't know. Certainly, the FICORA web site seems to avoid giving any helpful hint. Maybe Klaus would like to comment? /Niall

On 8 Jun 2007, at 05:37, Nieminen Klaus wrote:
In my vocabulary IENUM = Infrastructure/Operator/Carrier ENUM
Thanks for mentioning this, Klaus. It's something I had not thought of as a source of confusion, on account of being so close to the action. IENUM Ltd is the company which has signed the agreement with ComReg, the Irish regulator, to provide ENUM Tier-1 service for +353. Best regards, Niall O'Reilly University College Dublin IT Services PGP key ID: AE995ED9 (see www.pgp.net) Fingerprint: 23DC C6DE 8874 2432 2BE0 3905 7987 E48D AE99 5ED9
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