Andrzej, what is strange in Poland is
Operator A has registerd in DNS "1000" E164 number (0.0.0.1.<cc>.e164.arpa) for his customer C.
-----Original Message----- From: enum-wg-admin@ripe.net [mailto:enum-wg-admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Andrzej Bartosiewicz Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:16 AM To: Adrian Georgescu Cc: enum-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [enum-wg] "production status"?
Let's imaging the following situation.
Operator A has registerd in the central database numbering block 1XXX (1.<cc>.e164.arpa.)
Operator A has registerd in DNS "1000" E164 number (0.0.0.1.<cc>.e164.arpa) for his customer C.
NP is implemented and customer C is porting his number from Operator A to Operator B
Finally, customer C is the B's customer for "1000" number and the same time the (lifelong) Registrar of ENUM number "1000" is... Operator A.
Customer C MUST always contact Operator A.
What happens in case of A bankruptcy?
It sounds strange.
Andrzej.
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Andrzej,
I cannot imagine how ENUM registrations could be "canceled", as the numbers are delegated based on current administrative policies in place. Should NP be implemented, ENUM can be an enabler. With fixed numbering plans like in .ro delegation of each individual number is possible.
Adrian
On Jun 3, 2005, at 10:49 AM, Andrzej Bartosiewicz wrote:
As I understand ENUM Registry MUST canclel/terminate all the ENUM registration of the numbering blocks after NP implementation in Romania.
Additionally Registry should "transfer" all the ENUM domain names from the Registrars (Operators) to the Registry. Am I right?
Andrzej
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Number portability is not possible at this moment, there are
for
the near future.
On Jun 3, 2005, at 10:13 AM, Andrzej Bartosiewicz wrote:
Adrian,
In Romania operators may apply for entering number ranges that are assigned by the telecom regulator under +40 also into e164.arpa. name space. The operator than assigns the numbers to its customers
If customer C registered the "1000" number by himself, as everywhere else, the whole problem would not exist. Richard Richard Stastny OeFEG tel:+43 664 420 4100 enum:+43 780 203 211 callto://fordprefect http://voipandenum.blogspot.com plans based
on internal procedures.
It lookas like that Number Portability can not be implemented in Romania. What happens if the number range is assigned to operator and after that some numbers are ported to anoter operator.
Andrzej.
Richard, I understand your concerns. I agree with you but: According to our Telecommuniaction Law numbers are assigned to Operators by Regulator and Subscriber (end-user) rights are explicity enumerated including the right for changing the number and geographical and service provider portability). Subscriber has no other "general" rights like "Self management of ENUM domain name corresponding to the E164 number from within the national plan". Neither Registry (NASK) nor the Regulator have legal power to allow direct registration of ENUM domain names by the Subscribers (end-users). Coming back to NP problem:
what is strange in Poland is
Operator A has registerd in DNS "1000" E164 number (0.0.0.1.<cc>.e164.arpa) for his customer C.
If customer C registered the "1000" number by himself, as everywhere else, the whole problem would not exist.
If the full E164 numbers (*not the number blocks*) are subject of registration there is no problem with NP. In our case where subscriber can not register directly, there is no problem with NP. Andrzej.
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