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RE: [enum-wg] Links to country web pages concerning ENUM activiti es
by Arunas Silinis 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

Hi Bernie, This is not planned at the moment, but may be considered depending on the validation methods that are selected. Cheers, Arunas. >-----Original Message----- >From: Bernie Hoeneisen [mailto:bhoeneis@switch.ch] >Sent: Friday, 8 July 2005 8:15 PM >To: Arunas Silinis >Cc: 'enum-wg(a)ripe.net' >Subject: RE: [enum-wg] Links to country web pages concerning >ENUM activiti es > > >Hi Arunas > >Thanks for this insight from downunder. > >Is it planed that the (Tier-1) Registry will get and store validation >related information along with any ENUM domain name, e.g. >information such >as validation method applied, expiry date of validation, >validator, ...? > >cheers, > Bernie > >On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Arunas Silinis wrote: > >> Hi Bernie, >> >> We are intending to include some existing numbers and validation >> mechanisms that have been mentioned as possibilities are similar to >> those already being used elsewhere, such as: >> >> - Caller-ID verification >> - SMS verification >> - Presentation of a bill showing number >> - Signed declaration >> - Declaration from Carrier responsible for LNP of the number range >> >> However, in Australia we are currently trying to resolve the >issue of >> who has the right to register the number (i.e. the end-user or the >> service provider). We hope to resolve this shortly as most of the >> interest in experimenting with ENUM in Aus relies on >existing numbers. >> Other trials have given this right to the end user and it seems that >> this is the intention of ENUM, however this is not universally >> accepted. On this topic we read with interest the Internet draft on >> carrier/user enum service registration. >> >> Regards, >> >> Arunas. >> >> >> Arunas Silinis >> Content, Credit Management & Infrastructure >> Australian Communications & Media Authority >> Ph: (03) 9963 6961 >> Fax: (03) 9963 6979 >> arunas.silinis(a)acma.gov.au >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Bernie Hoeneisen [mailto:bhoeneis@switch.ch] >>> Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2005 6:29 PM >>> To: Arunas Silinis >>> Cc: 'enum-wg(a)ripe.net' >>> Subject: Re: [enum-wg] Links to country web pages concerning ENUM >>> activities >>> >>> >>> Hi Arunas >>> >>> As have figured out from your webpages, you are currently >permitting >>> only a special range of 100'000 E.164 numbers for ENUM, so >you do not >>> really have a big issue with the validation yet. >>> >>> What are your plans concerning validation, once you start to allow >>> the registration of existing E.164 numbers? >>> >>> cheers, >>> Bernie >>> >>> PS: We have published some information concerning the Swiss ENUM >>> Trial on: >>> http://www.switch.ch/enum/ >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> >>> Bernhard Höneisen >>> Switch >>> Neumuehlequai 6 >>> Postfach >>> CH-8021 Zürich >>> >>> tel:+41 44 268 15 54 (normal) >>> tel:+41 43 268 15 54 (IP mit ENUM) >>> sip:bhoeneis@switch.ch >>> fax:+41 44 253 98 98 >>> email:bhoeneis@switch.ch >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Arunas Silinis wrote: >>> >>>> Joakim, >>>> >>>> The Australian ENUM trial started about about a month ago >>> and there is >>>> a lot of information about it at: >>>> >>>> www.enum.com.au <http://www.enum.com.au> - Official trial website >>>> >>>> and >>>> >>>> >>> >http://www.acma.gov.au/ACMAINTER.2097430:STA>NDARD:1930296053:p c=PC_2 >> 47 >>> 5 >>> >> <http://www.acma.gov.au/ACMAINTER.2097430:STANDARD:1930296053:p > c=PC_2475> - >> ACMA (regulator) ENUM site. >> >> Also, on the trial site a discussion forum has just been set up. You >> are welcome to post any further questions about our trial on there. >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> Arunas Silinis >> Content, Credit Management & Infrastructure >> Australian Communications & Media Authority >> Ph: (03) 9963 6961 >> Fax: (03) 9963 6979 >> arunas.silinis(a)acma.gov.au <mailto:arunas.silinis@acma.gov.au> >> >> >> >

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RE: [enum-wg] Links to country web pages concerning ENUM activiti es
by Arunas Silinis 08 Jul '05

08 Jul '05

Hi Bernie, We are intending to include some existing numbers and validation mechanisms that have been mentioned as possibilities are similar to those already being used elsewhere, such as: - Caller-ID verification - SMS verification - Presentation of a bill showing number - Signed declaration - Declaration from Carrier responsible for LNP of the number range However, in Australia we are currently trying to resolve the issue of who has the right to register the number (i.e. the end-user or the service provider). We hope to resolve this shortly as most of the interest in experimenting with ENUM in Aus relies on existing numbers. Other trials have given this right to the end user and it seems that this is the intention of ENUM, however this is not universally accepted. On this topic we read with interest the Internet draft on carrier/user enum service registration. Regards, Arunas. Arunas Silinis Content, Credit Management & Infrastructure Australian Communications & Media Authority Ph: (03) 9963 6961 Fax: (03) 9963 6979 arunas.silinis(a)acma.gov.au >-----Original Message----- >From: Bernie Hoeneisen [mailto:bhoeneis@switch.ch] >Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2005 6:29 PM >To: Arunas Silinis >Cc: 'enum-wg(a)ripe.net' >Subject: Re: [enum-wg] Links to country web pages concerning >ENUM activities > > >Hi Arunas > >As have figured out from your webpages, you are currently >permitting only >a special range of 100'000 E.164 numbers for ENUM, so you do not >really have a big issue with the validation yet. > >What are your plans concerning validation, once you start to allow the >registration of existing E.164 numbers? > >cheers, > Bernie > >PS: We have published some information concerning the Swiss >ENUM Trial on: > http://www.switch.ch/enum/ > > >--------------------------------- > > Bernhard Höneisen > Switch > Neumuehlequai 6 > Postfach > CH-8021 Zürich > > tel:+41 44 268 15 54 (normal) > tel:+41 43 268 15 54 (IP mit ENUM) > sip:bhoeneis@switch.ch > fax:+41 44 253 98 98 > email:bhoeneis@switch.ch > > >On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Arunas Silinis wrote: > >> Joakim, >> >> The Australian ENUM trial started about about a month ago >and there is >> a lot of information about it at: >> >> www.enum.com.au <http://www.enum.com.au> - Official trial website >> >> and >> >> >http://www.acma.gov.au/ACMAINTER.2097430:STA>NDARD:1930296053:pc=PC_247 >> 5 >> ><http://www.acma.gov.au/ACMAINTER.2097430:STANDARD:1930296053:p c=PC_2475> - > ACMA (regulator) ENUM site. > > Also, on the trial site a discussion forum has just been set up. You > are welcome to post any further questions about our trial on there. > > Cheers, > > > Arunas Silinis > Content, Credit Management & Infrastructure > Australian Communications & Media Authority > Ph: (03) 9963 6961 > Fax: (03) 9963 6979 > arunas.silinis(a)acma.gov.au <mailto:arunas.silinis@acma.gov.au> > > >

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Links to country web pages concerning ENUM activities
by Arunas Silinis 07 Jul '05

07 Jul '05

Joakim, The Australian ENUM trial started about about a month ago and there is a lot of information about it at: www.enum.com.au <http://www.enum.com.au> - Official trial website and http://www.acma.gov.au/ACMAINTER.2097430:STANDARD:1930296053:pc=PC_2475 <http://www.acma.gov.au/ACMAINTER.2097430:STANDARD:1930296053:pc=PC_2475> - ACMA (regulator) ENUM site. Also, on the trial site a discussion forum has just been set up. You are welcome to post any further questions about our trial on there. Cheers, Arunas Silinis Content, Credit Management & Infrastructure Australian Communications & Media Authority Ph: (03) 9963 6961 Fax: (03) 9963 6979 arunas.silinis(a)acma.gov.au <mailto:arunas.silinis@acma.gov.au>

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Links to country web pages concerning ENUM activities
by Joakim.Stralmark＠pts.se 06 Jul '05

06 Jul '05

Dear All Maybe not a suitable e-mail to this list but I would like that folks from these lists provide me with links to web pages were I can find comprehensive information about ENUM activites in your country. I´m familiar with the list on the ENUM WG at RIPE but I will also try this way to collect accurate link info (link info quickly gets out of date on the Internet...). Thanks in advance. Sincerely Joakim Strålmark Swedish NRA/Administration

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CORRECTION: [enum-wg] Call for RIPE 51(!) agenda topics
by Carsten Schiefner 23 Jun '05

23 Jun '05

[Apologies...] Dear all, this is the first call for agenda items for the ENUM WG meeting at RIPE 51 in Amsterdam. Please send in suggestions and proposals. Thanks and best regards, Carsten Schiefner

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Call for RIPE 50 agenda topics
by Carsten Schiefner 23 Jun '05

23 Jun '05

Dear all, this is the first call for agenda items for the ENUM WG meeting at RIPE 51 in Amsterdam. Please send in suggestions and proposals. Thanks and best regards, Carsten Schiefner

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FYI: new list for ENUM +353 Interest Group
by Niall O'Reilly 21 Jun '05

21 Jun '05

Hello RIPE ENUM-WG-ers. Some of you may be interested to know that the ENUM +353 Interest Group mailing list has recently been set up. Membership of this list is entirely open, as is access to the archives. Sending of messages to the list is restricted to those who are already members. Archives are at https://listserv.heanet.ie/enum-353-ig.html. Best regards, Niall O'Reilly UCD Computing Services PGP key ID: AE995ED9 (see www.pgp.net) Fingerprint: 23DC C6DE 8874 2432 2BE0 3905 7987 E48D AE99 5ED9

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Discuss: draft-hoeneisen-enum-validation-epp-01
by Bernie Hoeneisen 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

Hi! As some of you know, in the IETF, there is some work on-going concerning ENUM and validation of E.164 numbers. At the IETF-62 in Minneapolis. the draft referred below has been approved as a Working Group item of the IETF ENUM WG: Abstract This document describes an EPP extension framework for mapping information about the validation process that has been applied for the E.164 number (or number range), which the ENUM domain name is based on. Specified in XML, this mapping extends the EPP domain name mapping to provide an additional feature required for the provisioning of ENUM domain names. URLs * http://ietf.hoeneisen.ch/draft-hoeneisen-enum-validation-epp-01.txt * http://ietf.hoeneisen.ch/draft-hoeneisen-enum-validation-epp-01.html In Switzerland we are running an EPP Server including this extension for the ENUM Tier-1 Registry. So far we did not run into any trouble. I am about to write an update of this draft. So far I have not received any feedback. Does this mean, that everything in there is just fine or that people are not interested / have not read it at all? ;-) Besides the technical and other feedback, I'd be interested: - Who is planning to use this EPP extension for ENUM? - Who cannot use this extensions and what are the reasons? Looking forward for lots of comments! cheers, Bernie Hoeneisen, Switch, Project Manager ENUM

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ENUM WG draft minutes RIPE 50 rev. 1
by Carsten Schiefner 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

Dear all, thanks to Oleg Muravskiy of the RIPE NCC for taking the minutes. The first draft is available at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/enum/minutes/r50-minutes.html Please send in any comments and/or corrections you may have. Thanks and best regards, Carsten Schiefner

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Re: [enum-wg] Discuss: draft-hoeneisen-enum-validation-epp-01
by Stastny Richard 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

Thanks Axel for this clarification. To clarify this issue, I would propose to change the filename of your draft slightly eg by adding -arch or token Nevertheless there seems to be some overlap. I would suggest that you and Bernie get together and make a proposal for the next IETF on the enum list:to Rich regarding the aganda 1. to make both documents WG items eventually one on standards track and one informational. 2. eventually to move some parts from one document to the other to make them consistent. This could be discussed in Paris. Any comments, Rich? best regards Richard ________________________________ Von: enum-wg-admin(a)ripe.net im Auftrag von Alexander Mayrhofer Gesendet: Di 07.06.2005 09:21 An: Andrzej Bartosiewicz Cc: Bernie Hoeneisen; enum-wg(a)ripe.net Betreff: Re: [enum-wg] Discuss: draft-hoeneisen-enum-validation-epp-01 Andrzej Bartosiewicz wrote: > Bernie, Alexander, > > I'm really interested how similar/different are Switch and ENUM.AT > (draft-mayrhofer-enum-validation-01) solutions... > > Could you guys enumerate the major differences and similarities between > your implementations (Internet-Drafts)? Hi Andrzej and all, first of all, i would like to make sure that we (SWITCH / enum.at) are not competing in terms of validation standards - we are of course talking to each other, and have been working together on the drafts as well. Our intention is to provide a validation infrastructure on which the industry can agree on - my vision is that a registrar working with a registry in at least the EU does not have to take a steep learning curve for each new registry he's talking to. The two drafts cover´quite different parts of the validation "business" (Bernie, i'd like you to correct me if there'S anything wrong with my description): - draft-hoeneisen-enum-validation-epp-01 covers how to embed validation information as an extension in EPP. Additionally, it covers a few validation related fields, which are transported in the extension. The extension itself allows extending the validation related data to additional fields (see Section 4.4) - draft-mayrhofer-enum-validation-00 covers general validation architecture (which might be out of scope for an IETF draft, please comment), and provides a so called "validation token" - an (optionally cryptographically signed) XML document which is used to transport validation related information beyond that specified in bernie's draft. Any feedback on this draft is very much appreciated since i'm going to provide an update of this document for the upcoming IETF. So, those 2 drafts don't contradict each other - they can easily be used together for eg. transporting a validation token via EPP. Once again, i'd appreciate any comments on this - we've been using the validation token in ENUM procudtion enviroments since about half a year, and didn't experience any architectural problems. We are going to adapt the data scheme a bit, eg. we're going to add a "credential" section, where the registrar can provide eg. a passwort, a client certificate fingerprint, IMSI, etc. which the subscriber can in turn use to identify himself upon revalidation. hope that helps cheers Alex Mayrhofer enum.at

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