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RIPE 51 draft minutes, RIPE 52 draft agenda
by Carsten Schiefner 16 Mar '06

16 Mar '06

Dear colleagues - First of all, a warm "Thank you!" to Pierre Baume of the RIPE NCC for taking the minutes. The first draft is available at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/enum/minutes/r51-minutes.html Please send in any comments and/or corrections you may have, to this list directly and/or to <enum-wg-chair(a)ripe.net>. There will be a last call on Friday 14 April 2006, objections will be accepted by e-mail until 12:00 UTC Wednesday 26 April 2006. Further objections acceped in person at WG session, with immediate decision on dealing with them at the meeting (could need more time on list). In the absence of any objections, the minutes will be declared "final" Monday 01 May 2006. Secondly, I'd like to provide you with a first draft of the agenda for the upcoming meeting. Also in this case, Niall and I will be happily taking your comments, suggestions etc. on the list directly and/or via <enum-wg-chair(a)ripe.net>. Best, Carsten === Draft agenda for the ENUM WG session at RIPE 52 A. Administrivia Welcome Scribe Jabberwok B. Minutes ENUM WG at RIPE 51 Last call as Friday 14 April Objections accepted by e-mail until 12:00 UTC Wednesday 26 April Further objections acceped in person at WG session Decision on dealing with objections at meeting (could need more time on list) Absent objections, declare "final" Monday 01 May C. Review open actions 51.1 (RIPE NCC): Statistics from all e164.arpa servers. 51.2 (Carsten Schiefner): Let NCC know details of missing links. 51.3 (RIPE NCC): To check whether quarterly ENUM reports to IAB would still be necessary and asked for. 51.4 (Peter Koch): Continue walking e164.arpa and report at RIPE 52. 51.5 (Jim Reid): Stimulate discussion on testbed numbers/ranges. 51.6 (Carsten Schiefner): Cross-check on DNS-WG-AP-51.5. 51.7 (All): Test reachability of non-geo +43 780 numbers. D. News IETF-watch I-D/RFC alert ENUM status update E. RIPE-NCC ENUM Report Delegations Query rates ... F. Presentations (unless covered by brief announcements at item D) +1 Trial (requested) +30 Trial (requested) +49 Commercial Operations (Andreas Baess) +353 Commercial Operations (tba.) +43 Experience, the Registry Days held earlier in April (tba.) G. Follow-up on EOF presentations (if any) ENUM security aspects ... Y. Mutual issues with other WGs DNS-WG ... Z. Close Summarize open actions Thanks to attendance, participants, and helpers

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ENUM-Registry info days in Austria
by Alexander Mayrhofer 09 Mar '06

09 Mar '06

[on behalf of robert] Dear ENUM-WG-Members, I like to inform you that ENUM.AT will hold a 2-days event about its ENUM-operations in Austria. This event will focus on registry topics and there will be room to discuss operational experience and lessons learned as well - please find details in the draft agenda below. The meeting will be open to all interested RIPE members however for planning purpose registration before March 27th is appreciated. When: April 3-4, 2006 Where: University of Vienna, Computing Center Universitaetsstrasse 7 A-1010 Vienna Austria Registration: office(a)enum.at Draft Agenda: Legal Framework - Regulator´s Role - enum.at Contract with Regulator - Validation Requirements - Number Ranges Role Modell and Data Flow - Registry - Registrar - Validation Entity - Communication Service Provider Registry Interface - EPP - Validation Token - Finger -> Dispute Resolution Overview Software Architecture Commercial Terms & Conditions Lessons Learned - Problems with special number ranges - moving from trial to production - availability of products Things to watch for - local environment conditions: - open vs closed number plan - number allocation practices - positioning: ENUM and number portability - local conditions & strategy For any questions please don´t hesitate to contact me. Best regards, Robert Schischka ------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Schischka enum.at GmbH Karlsplatz 1/2/9 A-1010 Vienna Austria Email: Robert.Schischka(a)enum.at Telefon +43 (1) 505 64 16 - 15 Fax +43 (1) 505 64 16 - 19 Mobile: +43 664 913 47 78 ------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Schischka nic.at Internet Verwaltungs- und Betriebsgesellschaft m. b. H. Jakob-Haringer-Straße 8 A-5020 Salzburg Austria Email: Robert.Schischka(a)nic.at Telefon +43 (662) 4669-0 Fax +43 (662) 4669-19 Mobile: +43 664 913 47 78

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Delegation of +30/0.3.e164.arpa completed
by Schiefner, Carsten 02 Mar '06

02 Mar '06

Dear colleagues, the ENUM delegation request for 0.3.e164.arpa - +30 is Greece's E.164 CC - was confirmed by ITU-T TSB on 6 Feb 2006. As per yesterday, 0.3.e164.arpa is delegated to grdns.ics.forth.gr [139.91.1.1] estia.ics.forth.gr [139.91.191.3] grdns-aix.ics.forth.gr [195.130.89.230] Welcome, Greece! :-) Best, Carsten Schiefner

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Delegation of +1/1.e164.arpa (almost) completed
by Carsten Schiefner 21 Feb '06

21 Feb '06

Dear colleagues, the ENUM delegation request for 1.e164.arpa - +1 is the E.164 CC for the North American Numbering Plan (NANP) - has just been confirmed by ITU-T TSB. I expect the technical delegation to be just a matter of time then. Furthermore, given the size of possible delegations under 1.e164.arpa, I consider this a major step forward for Public User ENUM. Congratulations to all who worked on the ENUM LLC and on the project in general over the last couple of years. Best, Carsten Schiefner -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [enum-announce] Fw: NCC#2006021663 [RE: [Country Code 1 ENUM delegation request]] Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:39:34 +0100 From: RIPE NCC Staff <enum-request(a)ripe.net> Reply-To: RIPE NCC Staff <enum-request(a)ripe.net> To: enum-announce(a)ripe.net ----- Begin forwarded message ----- Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:19:13 +0100 From: <richard.hill(a)itu.int> To: <enum-request(a)ripe.net> Subject: RE: NCC#2006021663 [Country Code 1 ENUM delegation request] Message-Id: <334A4109C6BEA14ABB48EBCF274A6C8A0187C7E1(a)MAILBOX1.blue.itu.ch> The TSB confirms that the attached request for ENUM delegation of code 1 has been authorized by the concerned national Administrations for the purposes of technical trials for a period ending no later than one year after the confirmation of the delegation by RIPE NCC. The delegation may proceed when RIPE NCC receives formal confirmation from the Director of TSB. 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ENUM motivation
by Joao Pereira 16 Feb '06

16 Feb '06

Hello We are beginning the request phase to the 1.5.3.e164.arpa in Portugal and we still have some doubts about the main motivation towards this technology, that would be from: - Traditional Telcos ? No, they want to bill all calls.... - New Telcos ? No, they want to keep their VoIP networks closed... - IP Telephony integrators (Alcatel, Cisco, Siemens,...)? Maybe... but they usually work together with the Telcos - the end users ? Yes :) Is this user interest going to be enough? And are they willing to pay for this registration? They can use free ENUM trees.... How can we push for more ENUM registrations in the e164.arpa tree? Thanks Joao Pereira FCCN

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RE: [enum-wg] ENUM motivation
by Lupton, Ronan 16 Feb '06

16 Feb '06

Joao, There was a conference in Lisbon in November last discussing the various aspects of the ENUM play/s motivation etc. A number of people were in attendance from Telecom Portugal, I would be happy to discuss these contact with you bilaterally. Perhaps the forum is not the best place to ask these questions, but there are certainly folks who have interesting views. My own view is that this standard radically simplifies some of the more complex PSTN addressing problems and multiplicity of addressing issues consumers face. The markets are going to have to decide to a large extent how this standard develops. You may have noticed that the NANP, country code 1 (USA) delegation was approved yesterday. That might bring even more momentum to adoption of the standard. Regards, Ronan Ronan Lupton Senior Regulatory Manager & EMEA Interconnect Policy International Affairs Verizon Business Lower Erne St. Dublin 2. Ireland Tel: +353-1-2474525 Fax: +353-1-2474545 ENUM: +35315069888 mailto:ronan.lupton@ie.verizonbusiness.com Verizon and MCI are now operating as Verizon Business -----Original Message----- From: enum-wg-admin(a)ripe.net [mailto:enum-wg-admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Joao Pereira Sent: 16 February 2006 17:18 To: enum-wg(a)ripe.net Subject: [enum-wg] ENUM motivation Hello We are beginning the request phase to the 1.5.3.e164.arpa in Portugal and we still have some doubts about the main motivation towards this technology, that would be from: - Traditional Telcos ? No, they want to bill all calls.... - New Telcos ? No, they want to keep their VoIP networks closed... - IP Telephony integrators (Alcatel, Cisco, Siemens,...)? Maybe... but they usually work together with the Telcos - the end users ? Yes :) Is this user interest going to be enough? And are they willing to pay for this registration? They can use free ENUM trees.... How can we push for more ENUM registrations in the e164.arpa tree? Thanks Joao Pereira FCCN

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RE: [enum-wg] Telephone numbers used in ENUM trial
by Lupton, Ronan 05 Feb '06

05 Feb '06

Admittedly then it may be very difficult to undertake a complete and transparent trial (Including all call case scenarios, money swaps, PSTN to XoIP) I spoke at a conference in Lisbon last week and was asked why the expression 'virtual number' was not included in the syntax of my presentation. My answer was very simple. The numbers can be virtual under prerogative for a period of time but would ultimately be useless. It has to be the real deal of won't attract consumers. Those folks that drive demand. Granted that the ENUM service might need to be wrapped-up into some type of simple client. I am also increasingly astounded by the fact that the Tier 1, X.Y.e164.arpa root registry is constantly branded as monopolistic. There can only be one. Some quotes from the public consultation on VoIP services, Ireland (DTI UK consultation responses were similar): [4.2.2. is a clear message] 4.4.1 Summary of consultation issues ENUM allows end-users to have one address string (e.g. a telephone number) that will connect to any termination method of their choice (e.g. VoIP). It has been suggested that specific ENUM numbers be set aside, in order to promote take-up. If this was done, then the thorny problem of validation of the user's right to use a number would be side-stepped, as ENUM sign-up would happen automatically with number allocation. An entire range of numbers (i.e. including a separate access code) could be made available for the use of ENUM should the expected demand be great enough. Alternatively, a sub-range, i.e. using the first (and perhaps the second) digit from a VoIP access code, could be used to denote ENUM numbers. If a user wished to opt-out of ENUM, the right to that ENUM number would be lost. If a user opted out of a telephone line subscription, this would have no impact on their right to continue holding any specific ENUM number. 4.4.2 Views of Respondents The great majority of respondents to the first question above felt that existing E.164 numbers are adequate for ENUM purposes and that the allocation of a new range is not justified. Some respondents felt that this consultation paper is not the appropriate forum for debate on this topic. The answers to the second and third questions therefore need not be considered further, in view of the responses given to the first. 4.4.3 Commission's Position on numbers for ENUM ComReg agrees with the responses received. It is therefore not considered necessary to open a specific range of numbers for the use of ENUM at this time. This topic may be revisited at some stage in the future, if the need arises. Note: ComReg expects to publish a report on the ongoing deliberations of the Irish ENUM forum in October. This report will be available from ComReg's website at http://www.comreg.ie.] -----Original Message----- From: enum-wg-admin(a)ripe.net [mailto:enum-wg-admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Richard Shockey Sent: 21 November 2005 02:58 To: hotta(a)jprs.co.jp Cc: Thu Thuy; enum-wg(a)ripe.net Subject: Re: [enum-wg] Telephone numbers used in ENUM trial HiroHOTTA wrote: > Dear Thu Thuy, > > In Japan, ENUM trial will use virtual numbers which are NOT > in the range of actual use. Government does not like to see > numbers that look like actually-used numbers. Thus, 050 or > 0AB numbers will not be used in the trial. Sounds like they have been talking to the USGovt :-) <sigh) > Trial participants (providers) will be given virtual > telephone numbers by the trial secretariat. Those numbers > will have prefix 00, which do not exist as currently-used > numbers. > > Hiro > > On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:28:41 +0700 > "Thu Thuy" <thuthuy(a)vnnic.net.vn> wrote: > >>Dears, >> >>I have to investigate model of ENUM trial in countries for my >>report relating to the preparation for ENUM trial in Vietnam. >>However I'm strucking with a question that i can not clear. >>Pls help me. >> >>These trial use existing telephone number in the country >>numbering plan for the trial. In Japan, 050 (IP Telephony), >>mobile number range, geographic telephone number, ext... are >>used. >> >>However, i could not find information to clear my question as >>follow: If the service provider doen't participate in the >>trial, then could their delegated number range be used for >>ENUM trial ? >> >>For example Provider A was delegated 0AB-CDEF-GHJK number >>range. But Proviser A did not participate in the ENUM trial. >>Can their subcribers used the number belonging to this range >>to register ENUM. How can services be provided to ENUM user >>with this number. In this case, could this number range be >>used in ENUM service ? >> >>Pls help me to clarify this. Any more information is very >>useful for me. >> >>Thanks & best regards. >> >>Thu Thuy. >> >> > > -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Director - Member of Technical Staff NeuStar Inc. 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:57141(at)fwd.pulver.com ENUM +87810-13313-31331 PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile +1 703.593.2683 Fax: +1 815.333.1237 <mailto:richard(at)shockey.us> or <mailto:richard.shockey(at)neustar.biz> <http://www.neustar.biz> ; <http://www.enum.org> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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Re:[enum-wg] DENIC Launches Productive Phase of ENUM
by 王峰 27 Jan '06

27 Jan '06

hi all, It's a really great news. More commercial ENUM, more better. Hope Denic can obtain much more in commerical applications. Regards, Feng Wang @CNNIC >From: Carsten Schiefner <enumvoipsip.cs(a)schiefner.de> >Reply-To: >To: enum-wg(a)ripe.net >Subject: [enum-wg] DENIC Launches Productive Phase of ENUM >Date:Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:28:15 +0100 > >Dear colleagues, > > I am happy - and to some extent also proud ;-) - to be able to announce > that as of 23 January 2006, DENIC has moved ENUM for +49 - delegations > under 9.4.e164.arpa - from trial to regular operation. > > Please find the full press release at: > > http://www.denic.de/en/denic/presse/press_73.html > > Best, > > Carsten Schiefner >

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DENIC Launches Productive Phase of ENUM
by Carsten Schiefner 26 Jan '06

26 Jan '06

Dear colleagues, I am happy - and to some extent also proud ;-) - to be able to announce that as of 23 January 2006, DENIC has moved ENUM for +49 - delegations under 9.4.e164.arpa - from trial to regular operation. Please find the full press release at: http://www.denic.de/en/denic/presse/press_73.html Best, Carsten Schiefner

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Game on in competition for +353 Tier-1 ENUM
by Niall O'Reilly 21 Dec '05

21 Dec '05

See http://www.enum.ie/news/ for more information. Best regards, Niall O'Reilly PGP key ID: AE995ED9 (see www.pgp.net) Fingerprint: 23DC C6DE 8874 2432 2BE0 3905 7987 E48D AE99 5ED9

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