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COCOM & ENUM ...
by Andrzej Bartosiewicz 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

Carsten, I have been invited to have a presentation on the User ENUM deployment in Poland. After discussion with Peter Scott from DG Information Society, I have prepared the following presentation on "Current status of User ENUM deployment in Poland": www.bartosiewicz.pl/2004_12_14_COCOM_BARTOSIEWICZ.pdf Regards, Andrzej.

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SV: [enum-wg] COCOM & ENUM
by Joakim.Stralmark＠pts.se 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

Hello I shall do a presentation about the status of ENUM in Sweden and the next steps. Sincerely Joakim Strålmark Swedish NRA -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: enum-wg-admin(a)ripe.net [mailto:enum-wg-admin@ripe.net] För Carsten Schiefner Skickat: den 10 december 2004 20:39 Till: enum-wg(a)ripe.net Ämne: [enum-wg] COCOM & ENUM All, Andrzej Bartosiewicz from NASK, the registry for .pl, mentioned the agenda of the upcoming COCOM meeting on 15 Dec that may be of some interest to you as also ENUM is on it. If you happen to have any further information what may be meant by "Presentations from Member States" - Just the staus quo? (Planned) regulatory framework? ...? - please feel free to share it. Best, Carsten

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Re: [enum-wg] COCOM & ENUM
by Carsten Schiefner 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

Sorry, I forgot to attach the agenda - here it is: EUROPEAN COMMISSIONDirectorate-General Information Society Communications ServicesImplementation/Committees Brussels, 1 December 2004 DG INFSO/B2 COCOM04-67 COMMUNICATIONS COMMITTEE 15th MEETING – 15 DECEMBER 2004 AGENDA (1) Opening of the meeting and adoption of the agenda* COCOM04-67 (2) Minutes of the 14th COCOM meeting of 13 October 2004 COCOM04-66 Minutes of the extraordinary meeting of 28 September 2004 COCOM04-63REV1 (3) New regulatory framework : follow-up* (4) Notification requirements under the new framework* (5) Article 7 state of play* COCOM04-68 Commission paper (6) Transitional regime (Article 27 Framework Directive)* COCOM04-69 Commission paper (7) Draft Recommendation on cost accounting* COCOM04-70 Commission paper (8) ENUM* Presentations from Member States (9) Pan-European space for freephone services using 116 as access code* COCOM04-71 Commission paper (10) 10th Implementation Report* (11) Leased lines Report 2003* COCOM04-72 Commission paper (12) Subgroups* COCOM04-74 Commission paper (13) Any other business* MHP Implementation Group 112 questionnaire Commission response to the USTR/FCC report Recent case law Provisional schedule for 2005 COCOM04-73 (*) Agenda points with an asterisk are open to participation of all European associations listed in document COCOM02-24REV1 On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 08:38:40PM +0100, Carsten Schiefner wrote: > All, > > Andrzej Bartosiewicz from NASK, the registry for .pl, mentioned the > agenda of the upcoming COCOM meeting on 15 Dec that may be of some > interest to you as also ENUM is on it. > > If you happen to have any further information what may be meant by > "Presentations from Member States" - Just the staus quo? (Planned) > regulatory framework? ...? - please feel free to share it. > > Best, > > Carsten

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COCOM & ENUM
by Carsten Schiefner 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

All, Andrzej Bartosiewicz from NASK, the registry for .pl, mentioned the agenda of the upcoming COCOM meeting on 15 Dec that may be of some interest to you as also ENUM is on it. If you happen to have any further information what may be meant by "Presentations from Member States" - Just the staus quo? (Planned) regulatory framework? ...? - please feel free to share it. Best, Carsten

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Rules for German non-geo E.164 number published
by Carsten Schiefner 26 Nov '04

26 Nov '04

All - today, Germany's regulator, RegTP, published the rules for the proposed non-geographival number range 032 and how to apply for it. Applications are accepted as of today, it is expected to have the first allocations completed as soon as in January 05. The German press release is available at: http://www.regtp.de/aktuelles/pm/03127/ , I expect the English transliation any time soon and will post a follow-up when it is up, too. In short, the main rules are: * egress and ingress access to PSTN * user is geographically unbound * user must have residence or place of incorporation in Germany * it is not a VAS range * it is not a carrier select offer * number portability included into number portability for plain normal landline numbers * (some rules about carrrier select and pricing omitted) Best, Carsten

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ITU-T Networks in action: ENUM Overview
by Stastny Richard 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

From the ITU-T website: Networks in Action: Overview of ENUM <http://www.itu.int/osg/spu/newslog/categories/enum/2004/11/08.html#a744> Networks in Action: Overview of ENUM <http://www.itu.int/osg/spu/presentations/2004/enum-ftra-uganda-rs.pdf> (PDF) and ENUM: Country Experiences (PDF) <http://www.itu.int/osg/spu/presentations/2004/enum-country-experiences-ftra…> was presented by Robert Shaw, ITU Strategy and Policy Unit <http://www.itu.int/osg/spu/> , at the recent Forum on Telecommunication Regulation in Africa <http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/afr/events/FTRA/Kampala/> in Kampala, Uganda. The agenda of the first presentation includes: * Networks in Action: Waves of Convergence * Network Technology Paradigm Shift * Next Generation Networks * Emerging Regulatory Imperatives * Case Study: VoIP * Case Study: ENUM * What problem is it trying to solve? * Why is ENUM important for regulators? * Current Status

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Fwd: Invitation to register to the 2nd ENUM Workshop at ETSI on Tuesday 30 November 2004
by Stastny Richard 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

FYI -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Patrick René Guillemin [mailto:Patrick.Guillemin@etsi.org] Gesendet: Do 04.11.2004 18:19 An: Plugtests Cc: plugtests-enum(a)list.etsi.org; TISPAN_WG4; enum(a)ietf.org; sip(a)ietf.org Betreff: Invitation to register to the 2nd ENUM Workshop at ETSI on Tuesday 30 November 2004 Invitation to register to the 2nd ENUM Workshop at ETSI on Tuesday 30 November 2004 Dear All, 2nd ENUM Technical Workshop Event description & information www.etsi.org/plugtests/ENUM.htm Agenda www.etsi.org/plugtests/Upcoming/ENUM/ENUMAgenda.htm Registration webapp.etsi.org/meetingcalendar/MeetingDetails.asp?mid=24578 Please forward in your preferred lists. Best Regards Patrick GUILLEMIN ETSI - Plugtests Technical Coordinator www.etsi.org/plugtests

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Fwd: [Enum] FYI news on CC 1
by Adrian Georgescu 29 Oct '04

29 Oct '04

Begin forwarded message: > From: Richard Shockey <richard(a)shockey.us> > Date: October 29, 2004 6:09:13 PM CEST > To: enum(a)ietf.org > Subject: [Enum] FYI news on CC 1 > > > I'm hoping to have a "special guest star" at the Monday night meeting > to give us some more details on this. > > ############# > > For Immediate Release: Media Contact: Jackie Henson McKenna Long and > Aldridge LLP 202-496-7549 jhenson(a)mckennalong.com > > TOP TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND INTERNET COMPANIES FORM COUNTRY CODE 1 > ENUM LLC TO FOSTER NEW INTERNET TELECOM TECHNOLOGY New Organization to > Promote Development of Technology to Combine Internet with Traditional > Telephony to Offer Streamlined Communication > > > Washington DC - (October 28, 2004) - Today, several leading > telecommunications and Internet companies have announced the formation > of a new organization, the Country Code 1 ENUM Limited Liability > Company (CC1 ENUM LLC), to build the public infrastructure that will > promote the development of ENUM technology in a single, carrier-class > manner within the countries of the North American Numbering Plan > (NANP). The countries of the NANP include the United States, Canada > and the Caribbean nations. > > ENUM is a technology that allows users to combine the resources of > the Internet with traditional telephony, uniting these two diverse > worlds of communications and enabling a whole new range of > communication applications. The ENUM system effectively enables > individuals, businesses and other organizations to maximize the use of > both the public Internet and the Public Switched Telephone Network > (PSTN) by associating telephone numbers with Internet domain names. > As a result, phone numbers can be used to send traditional telephony > services like voice calls or faxes which can be converted to digital > packets for delivery to a variety of devices. > > A common ENUM system becomes increasingly essential as applications > like voice over IP (VoIP) become more widely adopted. The ENUM system > bridges the technology gap between the public Internet and the Public > Switched Telephone Network so that VoIP users of different service > providers can communicate more simply with each other. > > Through the launch of this new organization, the founding companies > are seeking to build a commercial implementation consistent with the > relevant open standards of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) > and the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) upon which ENUM is > based. The new company will help to implement a single, public ENUM > system for those nations within the NANP that choose to participate. > It is intended that the North American implementation of ENUM will > adhere to national and industry privacy requirements. The LLC’s first > task will involve selection of a vendor to take the initial steps > towards creation of an infrastructure that would enable the countries > within the NANP to establish their own national ENUM implementations. > The limited liability company will also be responsible for selecting a > vendor to develop the national infrastructure for the United States. > > Country Code 1 ENUM LLC will manage the public infrastructure that > translates traditional telephone numbers into Internet domain names, > combining the reach and capabilities of the Internet with the Public > Switched Telephone Network (PSTN) to enable new communications > capabilities. CC1 ENUM LLC members include AT&T, GoDaddy.com, MCI, > SBC Laboratories, Sprint, and Verizon. > > > # # # > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives > NeuStar Inc. > 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 > sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:57141@fwd.pulver.com > ENUM +87810-13313-31331 > PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683, Fax: +1 > 815.333.1237 > <mailto:richard(at)shockey.us> or > <mailto:richard.shockey(at)neustar.biz> > <http://www.neustar.biz> ; <http://www.enum.org> > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > _______________________________________________ > enum mailing list > enum(a)ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum

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Fwd: ETSI Plugtests ENUM Call for Expert and extension of Task Force
by Stastny Richard 26 Oct '04

26 Oct '04

FYI -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Patrick René Guillemin [mailto:Patrick.Guillemin@etsi.org] Gesendet: Di 26.10.2004 12:03 An: Plugtests Cc: PLUGETSTS-ENUM(a)LIST.ETSI.ORG; enum(a)ietf.org; sip(a)ietf.org; TISPAN_WG4 Betreff: ETSI Plugtests ENUM Call for Expert and extension of Task Force Dear All, CALL FOR ONE ENUM INDEPENDENT EXPERT AND VOLUNTEERS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE TASK FORCE TO SUPPORT THE 1ST ENUM INTEROPERABILITY EVENT (Spring 2005) The ETSI Plugtests Interoperability service, hosted the first ENUM Workshop event in February 2004 to serve the whole global market in cooperation with the ETSI TC TISPAN committee. The ETSI Plugtests service is independent and has, over the last 4 years, gained a unique experience in organising 50 events for a broad range of domains. Further information on the service is available at www.etsi.org/plugtests. While being part of the ETSI structure, this service is self-financed and fully independent. Half of the organized events are related to non ETSI Standards (e.g. IPv6, SIP, Bluetooth, etc). The ETSI Plugtests service is now preparing a 1st ENUM interoperability event to be held spring 2005 with the objective of having a broad technical scope to address ENUM technologies. Preliminary ENUM tests could be conducted during the 1st NGN Plugtests from 29-Nov to 3-Dec: http://www.etsi.org/plugtests/NGN_VoIP.htm <http://www.etsi.org/plugtests/NGN_VoIP.htm> To serve all the global ENUM solutions and all involved companies in an open, independent and transparent process, ETSI is looking for further assistance and support in two directions: 1) CALL FOR AN INDEPENDENT EXPERT ETSI Plugtests Service is looking for appointing an independent expert mainly to assist in the definition of the ENUM interoperability event, its architecture, its test bed and on the test cases to be performed. This expert will be under contractual arrangement with ETSI and under the financial rules of the EU eEurope programme. He will coordinate the work under the supervision of both the ETSI TC TISPAN committee and an independent task force to be set-up for providing main input to the programme. The expert effort can be estimated in a range of 40 to 80 days. Should you like to be candidate for such expertise, please send your application and references to philippe.cousin(a)etsi.org (CC patrick.guillemin(a)etsi.org and plugtests(a)etsi.org) before 15 November 2004. 2) CALL FOR ADDITIONNAL VOLUNTEERS TO CONTRIBUTE TO A FIRST ENUM INTEROPERABILITY EVENT TASK FORCE ETSI Interoperability Service is looking for volunteers to extend the task force (EPTF, ENUM Plugtests Task Force) for providing inputs and guidance to the 1st Interoperability event in a more open, transparent and independent manner as possible . The main objective of this task force assisted by dedicated resources of an independent expert is to provide guidance of the architecture, the test beds, and the test cases. This 1st interoperability event should address all the interoperability concerns for the ENUM solutions. Should you like to be candidate to participate to this Task force, please send your application and references to Patrick.guillemin(a)etsi.org CC plugtests(a)etsi.org before 15 November 2004. Any expert is welcome, even non-ETSI members as long as the expert is committed to actively and constructively contribute to the work. It is expected that most of the work could be done by email and audio-conference but meeting(s) can also be convened when necessary. I am looking forward to getting a lot of applications and support Best regards Patrick GUILLEMIN, Coordinator of EPTF ETSI - Plugtests Technical Coordinator http://www.etsi.org/plugtests tel +33 (0)4 92 94 43 31 and Philippe COUSIN Interoperability Service Manager + 33 (0)4 92 94 43 06

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ENUM Survey Compilation
by Kim Davies 24 Oct '04

24 Oct '04

Dear all, Last week the web page with the working group's ENUM survey was updated with all the responses received to date. You can see it here: http://www.centr.org/kim/enum/index.html It would be nice to have some more submissions and feedback! A number responded that they would undertake to answer it but never came back, so now would be an ideal opportunity. kim -- Kim Davies, Council of European National Top Level Domain Registries Avenue Louise 327, B-1050 Brussels; Tel. +32 2 627 5550

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Re: [enum-wg] New co-chair of the ENUM WG
by Jim Reid 22 Oct '04

22 Oct '04

Patrik, I think the addition of Niall as co-chair would be wonderful.

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Check on NAPTR Order field value default
by Conroy, Lawrence (SMTP) 22 Oct '04

22 Oct '04

Hi Folks, Adrian picked up an inconsistency between the IETF and ETSI documents. These give two different default values for the Order field of NAPTRs. I propose to change the ETSI document (current proposed default = 10) to fit with the IETF document (current proposed default = 100). So, as a quick (like before the end of the weekend) poll, does anyone use a NAPTR order field value of 10 as opposed to 100? - the ones I've checked use 100, and only mine have order field = 10. all the best, Lawrence

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New co-chair of the ENUM WG
by Patrik Fältström 21 Oct '04

21 Oct '04

This is, I think, the right amount of time after the RIPE Meeting in Manchester to bring up this question. At the meeting, we got a volunteer to become the 3rd co-chair of the ENUM wg at RIPE. The person is Niall O'Reilly. If you have any objections to add Niall, please let me and Kim know. The time to object is (I decide myself) 2 weeks from now, after which Kim and myself will make a decision based on the input on whether we will send a recommendation to the RIPE leadership to add Niall. Regards, Patrik

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Re: [enum-wg] Report of the Irish ENUM Forum
by Stastny Richard 21 Oct '04

21 Oct '04

;-) It seems to be some kind of hide-and-seek. the reports are on the same page, you have jsut to find it ;-) On the left side in the Irish Green you find: ComReg sets out framework for Voice over Internet Services in Ireland spacer Thursday, October 14, 2004 spacer ComReg today set out the framework for the provision of Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) services in Ireland.... spacer Media Relase : ComReg sets out framework for Voice Over Internet Services in Ireland Document : Voice Over Internet Protocol (VoIP): A Guide Document : VOIP Services in Ireland: Numbering and related issues or http://www.comreg.ie/whats_new/default.asp?ctype=5&nid=101858 (which is the same page) http://www.comreg.ie/whats_new/default.asp?ctype=5&nid=101857 http://www.comreg.ie/whats_new/default.asp?ctype=5&nid=101856 which is the docuemnt you look for."Numbering and related Issues" regards Richard BTW: Niell, sorry, but this seems NOT to be a draft report, it is the answer to the consultation -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Niall O'Reilly [mailto:niall.oreilly@ucd.ie] Gesendet: Mi 20.10.2004 20:53 An: Carsten Schiefner Cc: Niall O'Reilly; enum-wg(a)ripe.net; Irish ENUM Forum Forum Betreff: Re: [enum-wg] Report of the Irish ENUM Forum Carsten, I can't throw very much light on this, I'm afraid. As I understood until now, the participants in the Forum have yet to meet to declare consensus and bless the report. This announcement leaves me surprised and confused. I don't understand how it has appeared at this stage, when the Forum hasn't actually had a meeting since the appearance of the draft report. You're right that we don't have a shop-window web-site. On 20 Oct 2004, at 18:15, Carsten Schiefner wrote: > ...is out: > > http://www.comreg.ie/whats_new/default.asp?ctype=5&nid=101861 > > However, the only three pages appear to be mere cover pages or an > introduction - even more, when the second last paragraph states: > > "All of the above issues are further clarified and discussed in the > accompanying report, prepared by PA Consulting Group on behalf of the > Forum." > > So can the actual report be found on the forum's website then? If > there is any website - Google says no, though... > > Niall? > > Best, > > Carsten > > > Best regards, Niall O'Reilly PGP key ID: AE995ED9 (see www.pgp.net) Fingerprint: 23DC C6DE 8874 2432 2BE0 3905 7987 E48D AE99 5ED9

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Re: [enum] [enum-wg] Report of the Irish ENUM Forum {02}
by Alan Judge 21 Oct '04

21 Oct '04

> A draft of the report had been circulated to the Forum by PA Consulting > on Friday 24th September for comments by 30th September. This report was > based on the one circulated and discussed last April and the ENUM trial > to date. We understood that several comments were received and > incorporated into the final document. For what it's worth at this stage, I'd note that most of my comments weren't incorporated and I wouldn't have voted to approve the report in the form that was published. Apart from a number of errors, there is mention of a reference document and various processes and policies that the forum hasn't even seen, let alone reached consensus on. I've found the forum experience interesting and educational. I hope everyone else has too. I look forward to hearing how the trial goes. Regards, Alan Alan Judge, Head of Research and Development Phone: +353-1-7010911 eircom net Fax: +353-1-7010901

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RE: [enum] [enum-wg] Report of the Irish ENUM Forum {01}
by Albert Redmond 21 Oct '04

21 Oct '04

Folks, Apologies for the confusion. Our Press Office had forgotten to activate the accompanying PA Report on the ComReg website. It's there now. A draft of the report had been circulated to the Forum by PA Consulting on Friday 24th September for comments by 30th September. This report was based on the one circulated and discussed last April and the ENUM trial to date. We understood that several comments were received and incorporated into the final document. ComReg had given a public commitment to publish the report by September '04, so we're running late! It also happens to coincide nicely with a paper we published on VoIP last week. Finally, if there are significant further learnings from the trial, the report will be updated in March '05. I hope this clarifies the situation. Best regards, Albert Redmond Senior Manager, Market Framework ComReg. -----Original Message----- From: Niall O'Reilly [mailto:niall.oreilly@ucd.ie] Sent: 20 October 2004 19:53 To: enum(a)consult.odtr.ie Cc: Niall O'Reilly; enum-wg(a)ripe.net; Irish ENUM Forum Forum Subject: [enum] [enum-wg] Report of the Irish ENUM Forum {01} Carsten, I can't throw very much light on this, I'm afraid. As I understood until now, the participants in the Forum have yet to meet to declare consensus and bless the report. This announcement leaves me surprised and confused. I don't understand how it has appeared at this stage, when the Forum hasn't actually had a meeting since the appearance of the draft report. You're right that we don't have a shop-window web-site. On 20 Oct 2004, at 18:15, Carsten Schiefner wrote: > ...is out: > > http://www.comreg.ie/whats_new/default.asp?ctype=5&nid=101861 > > However, the only three pages appear to be mere cover pages or an > introduction - even more, when the second last paragraph states: > > "All of the above issues are further clarified and discussed in the > accompanying report, prepared by PA Consulting Group on behalf of the > Forum." > > So can the actual report be found on the forum's website then? If > there is any website - Google says no, though... > > Niall? > > Best, > > Carsten > > > Best regards, Niall O'Reilly PGP key ID: AE995ED9 (see www.pgp.net) Fingerprint: 23DC C6DE 8874 2432 2BE0 3905 7987 E48D AE99 5ED9

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DUNDi: big brother is watching you
by Stastny Richard 21 Oct '04

21 Oct '04

Big brother is watching you ;-) http://www.itu.int/osg/spu/newslog/categories/voip/2004/10/20.html#a730 Distributed Universal Number Discovery = DUNDi <http://www.itu.int/osg/spu/newslog/categories/voip/2004/10/20.html#a730> The Distributed Universal Number Discovery (DUNDi <http://www.dundi.com/> ), from Digium <http://www.digium.com/> , is a peer to peer system for locating Internet gateways to telephony services. Unlike traditional hierarchical services such as ENUM <http://www.faqs.org/rfc/rfc2916.txt> , DUNDi <http://www.dundi.com/> is a distributed sysem with no centralized authority. An implementation of DUNDi <http://www.dundi.com/> exists in Asterisk <http://www.asterisk.org/> , an Open Source PBX. For further information, see: * DUNDi Core Members <http://www.dundi.com/members.html> * DUNDi Whitepaper <http://www.dundi.com/dundi.pdf> * General Peering Agreement <http://www.dundi.com/PEERING.pdf> * DUNDi Internet Draft <http://www.dundi.com/dundi.txt> * DUNDi Best Practices <http://www.dundi.com/bp.html> * DUNDi Press Release <http://www.dundi.com/dundi_press_release.doc> * DUNDi Mailing List <http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/dundi> More information can be found in a related article <http://voxilla.com/voxstory107-nested-order0-threshold0.html> from the people at Voxilla <http://voxilla.com> . Also worth reading are the VoIP peering discussions on this mailing list <http://psg.com/lists/voip-peering/> .

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and the document from OPTA (dutch only)
by Adrian Georgescu 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

http://www.opta.nl/download/04202992_consultatie%20_openbaar_.pdf

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Article: Dutch regulator publishes consultation on VoIP
by Adrian Georgescu 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

" The Dutch regulatory authority, OPTA, yesterday published a consultation document on voice over internet protocol (VoIP), concerning "generic obligations of providers of packet switched voice services towards end-users." Read more: http://www.dmeurope.com/default.asp?ArticleID=3738 The document mentioned in the article is however nowhere to be found. Adrian

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Re: [enum-wg] Report of the Irish ENUM Forum
by Stastny Richard 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

Maybe this is the reason why some people in Ireland did not know about the report, they do not accept e-mail from the outside anymore. Richard -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Stastny Richard Gesendet: Mi 20.10.2004 21:55 An: Niall O'Reilly; Carsten Schiefner Cc: Niall O'Reilly; enum-wg(a)ripe.net; Irish ENUM Forum Forum Betreff: Re: [enum-wg] Report of the Irish ENUM Forum Ihre Nachricht hat keinen oder nicht alle Empfänger erreicht. Betreff: Re: [enum-wg] Report of the Irish ENUM Forum Gesendet: 20.10.2004 21:55 Folgende(r) Empfänger konnte(n) nicht erreicht werden: Irish ENUM Forum Forum am 20.10.2004 21:55 Fehler bei der SMTP-Kommunikation mit dem E-Mail-Server des Empfängers. Wenden Sie sich an Ihren Systemadministrator. <mail.oefeg.at #5.5.0 smtp;550 Sorry, Richard.Stastny(a)oefeg.at is not allowed to send mail to enum(a)consult.odtr.ie>

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Report of the Irish ENUM Forum
by Carsten Schiefner 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

...is out: http://www.comreg.ie/whats_new/default.asp?ctype=5&nid=101861 However, the only three pages appear to be mere cover pages or an introduction - even more, when the second last paragraph states: "All of the above issues are further clarified and discussed in the accompanying report, prepared by PA Consulting Group on behalf of the Forum." So can the actual report be found on the forum's website then? If there is any website - Google says no, though... Niall? Best, Carsten

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ENUM support in openH323
by Carsten Schiefner 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

FYI - a pointer to this posting here: http://www.openh323.org/pipermail/openh323/2004-August/069519.html came along on Saturday via <e164-discuss(a)freenetworks.org>. Best, Carsten

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DUNDi by Mark Spencer
by Carsten Schiefner 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

Has anybody already digested this to some extent? Distributed Universal Number Discovery http://www.dundi.com/ An article on it has been published today at: http://voxilla.com/voxstory107-nested-order0-threshold0.html Best, -C.

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Re: [enum-wg] Meanwhile back in good ol' Germany
by Stastny Richard 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

>One of the major outcomes is that allocation rules for 032 national >numbers will be out as early as 24 November (this year! ;-) and that >ranges may be applied for immediately afterwards. Really? I have heard this differently today from Thilo Salmon here at the VON: He said that it will take DT approx. year to have the routing for 032in place Richard -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Carsten Schiefner [mailto:enumvoipsip.cs@schiefner.de] Gesendet: Di 19.10.2004 22:51 An: enum-wg(a)ripe.net Cc: Betreff: [enum-wg] Meanwhile back in good ol' Germany Folks, RegTP, the German Regulator, yesterday held a foum on "Voice over IP - Revolution or Evolution on the Telecommunications Market?" annonced on 30 July: http://www.regtp.de/en/aktuelles/pm/03017/ One of the major outcomes is that allocation rules for 032 national numbers will be out as early as 24 November (this year! ;-) and that ranges may be applied for immediately afterwards. The press release is at: http://www.regtp.de/en/aktuelles/pm/03100/ The speech given by Matthias Kurth, RegTP's president, is at: http://www.regtp.de/imperia/md/content/en/aktuelles/Rede_Kurth_TK-Forum_200… Best, -C.

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Meanwhile back in good ol' Germany
by Carsten Schiefner 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

Folks, RegTP, the German Regulator, yesterday held a foum on "Voice over IP - Revolution or Evolution on the Telecommunications Market?" annonced on 30 July: http://www.regtp.de/en/aktuelles/pm/03017/ One of the major outcomes is that allocation rules for 032 national numbers will be out as early as 24 November (this year! ;-) and that ranges may be applied for immediately afterwards. The press release is at: http://www.regtp.de/en/aktuelles/pm/03100/ The speech given by Matthias Kurth, RegTP's president, is at: http://www.regtp.de/imperia/md/content/en/aktuelles/Rede_Kurth_TK-Forum_200… Best, -C.

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Meanwhile in Ireland...
by Carsten Schiefner 19 Oct '04

19 Oct '04

Folks, are we witnessing a trend?! ;-) ComReg sets out framework for Voice Over Internet Services in Ireland http://www.comreg.ie/whats_new/default.asp?ctype=5&nid=101858 [...] The main decisions in this paper are as follows: 1. ComReg intends to open a new number range (access code 076) for the purposes of facilitating the introduction of VoIP services. [...] Best, Carsten

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RE: [enum-wg] New ETSI Drafts on ENUM submitted
by Stastny Richard 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Ok, I will make a knot in my handkerchief ;-) On the other side, if I do not remeber, I am pretty sure you will remind me ;-) Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Reid [mailto:jim@rfc1035.com] > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 3:24 PM > To: Stastny Richard > Cc: enum-wg(a)ripe.net > Subject: Re: [enum-wg] New ETSI Drafts on ENUM submitted > > > Thanks very much Richard. > > Please try to remember to produce PDF versions for any future > documents. >

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Re: [enum-wg] New ETSI Drafts on ENUM submitted
by Jim Reid 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Thanks very much Richard. Please try to remember to produce PDF versions for any future documents.

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RE: [enum-wg] New ETSI Drafts on ENUM submitted
by Stastny Richard 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Done http://enum.nic.at/documents/ETSI/Drafts/04bTD022%20Draft%20ts_102172v02 0003.pdf or http://tinyurl.com/6cpf8 http://enum.nic.at/documents/ETSI/Drafts/04bTD023%20Draft%20tr_102055v00 6.pdf or http://tinyurl.com/6k26x Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Reid [mailto:jim@rfc1035.com] > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:38 PM > To: Stastny Richard > Cc: enum-wg(a)ripe.net > Subject: Re: [enum-wg] New ETSI Drafts on ENUM submitted > > > Richard, can these documents be made available in an open > format like PDF? >

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Re: [enum-wg] New ETSI Drafts on ENUM submitted
by Jim Reid 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Richard, can these documents be made available in an open format like PDF?

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New ETSI Drafts on ENUM submitted
by Stastny Richard 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Dear all, I just submitted two ETSI drafts regarding ENUM as rapporteur for the next ETSI TISPAN#4bis meeting in Sophia Antipolis November 2-5, 2004. ETSI TS 102 172 Version 2.0.6 "Minimum requirements for interoperability of ENUM implementations" http://enum.nic.at/documents/ETSI/Drafts/04bTD022%20Draft%20ts_102172v02 0003.doc and ETSI TR 102 055v006 "Infrastructure ENUM" http://enum.nic.at/documents/ETSI/Drafts/04bTD023%20Draft%20tr_102055v00 6.doc please use the above links to retrieve the documents regards Richard Stastny

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Re: Survey on ENUM
by Stastny Richard 14 Oct '04

14 Oct '04

I am wondering what is happening with all this nice data coming in, they seem to vanish into a black hole. At least there is no updates yet on http://www.centr.org/kim/enum/index.html regards Richard -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: HiroHOTTA [mailto:hotta@jprs.co.jp] Gesendet: Mi 13.10.2004 12:58 An: enum-wg(a)ripe.net Cc: Betreff: [enum-wg] Re: Survey on ENUM Hello, Here are the answers for Japan. Hiro ================= > What is the country and E.164 code? Japan, +81 > Who is the delegate for the E.164 code? None (currently) > The status of deployment (notdelegated>applied>delegated/objected>trial>hiatus>production) notdelegated trial is done under 1.8.e164.jp > ENUM Project contact details (telephone, email, web) organizations : JPNIC and JPRS E-mail : sec(a)etjp.jp > Is a trial being, or going to be, conducted? A trial is on the way It's without officially delegation but is recognized and participated in by the government > What type of numbers are being used in the trial? Special numbers led by '000' which do not look like the existing phone numbers. > Is there work or plans toward full permanent deployment? That should be the result of the trial. > What type of numbers are to be used in full deployment? That should be the result of the trial. > Who is leading the ENUM project? (government, industry working group, etc.) Trial team which mainly consists of organizations from the industry. > Who operates the ccTLD for that country at present? JPRS > What type of organisation runs the ccTLD? (state, private, academic, etc.) private > What is the ccTLD legal regulation, if any? None > Who is the current Tier 1 registry? JPRS (ccTLD for .JP) behaves as Tier 1 registry under 1.8.e164.jp > Who is, or will be, the permanent Tier 1 registry? Not yet decided. > How will the Tier 1 registry selection be made? (i.e. decision, license, concession, agreement, public procurement, etc.) Not yet decided. > How will the method of cost recovery for the Tier 1 registry's operations? A recommendation can be result of the trial. > Will there be more than one Tier 1 provider for the country? A recommendation can be result of the trial. > Will there be ENUM registrars? Most probably. > What will be the ENUM validation technique? A recommendation can be result of the trial. > Is there/will there be a special number block for ENUM and/or IP Telephony? Not yet decided... under investigation by the trial team and the government. > Is there special treatment for unlisted numbers? No. > Are there any plans for infrastructure ENUM? That should be the result of the trial. > What is your ENUM WHOIS address? We don't have currently ENUM WHOIS > Please provide the history of ENUM trials, projects etc., if any. Please see http://etjp.jp/english/index.html > What are your future plans? (and dates if available) Trial has had one year experience and it's extended by one year until Sept. 2005. Interconnection trials between communication providers including oversee communication are expected. ===

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Meanwhile back in the UK
by Conroy, Lawrence (SMTP) 13 Oct '04

13 Oct '04

Hi Folks, It occurs to me that not everyone will know that the Final Report on the UK ENUM Trial phase is "out" and available for your browsing/downloading pleasure. Thus for anyone who didn't know this already... see <http://www.ukenumgroup.org/> all the best, Lawrence

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Survey on ENUM
by Andrzej Bartosiewicz 13 Oct '04

13 Oct '04

1. What is the country and E.164 code? PL 48 2. Who is the delegate for the E.164 code? With the consent of the Ministry of Infrastructure, NASK is the domain name holder for 8.4.e164.arpa. 3. The status of deployment TRIAL 4. ENUM Project contact details (telephone, email, web) NASK Andrzej Bartosiewicz, Research and Academic Computer Network 18 Wawozowa Str 02-796 Warsaw www.DNS.pl +48.225231204, andrzejb(a)nask.pl 5. Is a trial being, or going to be, conducted? Conducted since July 2002. 6. Is there work or plans toward full permanent deployment? Yes. ENUM Registry, protocol (based on EPP), administrative procedures are ready. From technical and administrative point of view Tier-1 registry is already deployed. 7. Who is leading the ENUM project? (government, industry working group, etc.) NASK + Office of Telecommunications and Post Regulation (URTiP, www.URTIP.gov.pl) 8. Who operates the ccTLD for that country at present? NASK Research and Academic Computer Network 18 Wawozowa Str 02-796 Warsaw www.DNS.pl +48.225231204 9. What type of organisation runs the ccTLD? (state, private, academic, etc.) State, R&D status http://www.nask.pl/run/n/Who_we_are 10. What is the ccTLD legal regulation, if any? see: http://www.nask.pl/run/n/Who_we_are 11. Who is the current Tier 1 registry? NASK Research and Academic Computer Network 18 Wawozowa Str 02-796 Warsaw www.DNS.pl +48.225231204NASK 12. Who is, or will be, the permanent Tier 1 registry? NASK Research and Academic Computer Network 18 Wawozowa Str 02-796 Warsaw www.DNS.pl +48.225231204 13. How will the Tier 1 registry selection be made? (i.e. decision, license, concession, agreement, public procurement, etc.) DECISION 14. How will the method of cost recovery for the Tier 1 registry's operations? Annual fee per registered number / year (ca. 2 - 5 EUR) 15. Will there be more than one Tier 1 provider for the country? NO 16. Will there be ENUM registrars? YES, REGISTRAR = TSP 17. What will be the ENUM validation technique? NASK accepts all "create" requests from TSPs without validation. "Update" can be done if the correct "authInfo" is provided by the new TSP. "Transfer" can be done if the correct "authInfo" is provided by the new TSP. Generally: If TSP provides the false data, TSP is subject to prosecution (TSP must comply with Telecommunication Act) 18. Is there/will there be a special number block for ENUM and/or IP Telephony? NO 19. Is there special treatment for unlisted numbers? Only valid E164 numbers assigned by Office of Telecommunications and Post Regulation (URTiP) can be registered. 20. Are there any plans for infrastructure ENUM? a.Infrastructure ENUM is one of the possibilities for Number Portability Administration Center (NASK's project) b. Infrastructure ENUM is platform for cost optimization solutions (NASK + Warsaw University of Technology) 21. What is your ENUM WHOIS address? http://www.dns.pl/cgi-bin/enum_lookup.pl 22. Please provide the history of ENUM trials, projects etc., if any. History: July 18, 2002 delegation, 2002 - 2004: trial May 19, 2004: Registry software ready, protocol defined 23. What are your future plans? (and dates if available) TBD 24. What is your date estimate on a production ENUM registry launch? May 19, 2004

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AW: AW: AW: AW: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM (questionable)
by Christoph Künkel 08 Oct '04

08 Oct '04

Lawrence, you still manage to ignore my 2 points ;-) I was not going to debate if Torys do speak H323 or not. I am not going to debate if any VoIP protocol is "better" or "less nostalgic" than another (we may well debate if one protocol is more suited for a partical purpose than another). I happen to work for a company that make PBX products which support both H.323 and SIP. But I am polite enough not to assume that the bunch of customers we have using H.323 are somewhat odd or as out-dated as your p166. Anyway, I was trying to say that neither VoIP nor ENUM require a SIP-URI. And that Kapsch wasn't the first company reachable via enum. Think we have consumed enough bandwidth for that though... :-) Christoph -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Conroy, Lawrence (SMTP) [mailto:lwc@roke.co.uk] Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Oktober 2004 15:00 An: Christoph Künkel Cc: enum-wg(a)ripe.net Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM (questionable) Hi Christoph, folks, Re. two points - I have a certain nostalgia for the old days when folk thought that H.323 was the answer to a maiden's prayer and people still voted Tory in the UK. I still have an old Pentium 166 in our lab that must be about the same era, so I DO understand the concept of using whatever old kit is hanging around. Re. 3761/3762 forbidding anything - yup. Strictly, it's RFC3762 that forbids this, as that slim document is what registers the h323 Enumservice. 3762 does not mention any sub-sub-type, so the :voice bit is invalid. Talk to Orit if you think it should be changed. AFAIK, Asterisk is one of the two widest used ENUM-enabled systems, the other being SER. Hence whilst the * enum.c does meet RFCs 3761, 3762, 3764 (and also supports the ETSI 102172 spec), as well as the earlier RFC2915 and RFC2916, (i.e. it's pretty flexible), it breaks with the syntax chosen by your ?hoster?. So it goes. all the best, Lawrence On 8 Oct 2004, at 13:25, Christoph Künkel wrote: > Lawrence, > > You still manage to ignore my 2 points ;-) > > Nevertheless, regarding the service spec. This is done by our trial > enum NAPTR hoster. See > http://www.enum-trial.de/newsletter/newsletter02.htm (at the end) for > details [ sorry, I am not aware of an English translation ]. > > Do you think either RFC 3761 or 3762 forbids this? > or is enum.c the normative reference? > > :-) Christoph > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Conroy, Lawrence (SMTP) [mailto:lwc@roke.co.uk] > [ ... ] > > I haven't seen before: E2U+h323:voice > > > Looking at the code, I suspect that this will successfully break > > Asterisk's > > enum.c processing. > -- Visit our website at www.roke.co.uk Roke Manor Research Ltd, Roke Manor, Romsey, Hampshire SO51 0ZN, UK. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential to Roke Manor Research Ltd and must not be passed to any third party without permission. This communication is for information only and shall not create or change any contractual relationship.

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AW: AW: AW: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM (questionable)
by Christoph Künkel 08 Oct '04

08 Oct '04

Lawrence, You still manage to ignore my 2 points ;-) Nevertheless, regarding the service spec. This is done by our trial enum NAPTR hoster. See http://www.enum-trial.de/newsletter/newsletter02.htm (at the end) for details [ sorry, I am not aware of an English translation ]. Do you think either RFC 3761 or 3762 forbids this? or is enum.c the normative reference? :-) Christoph -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Conroy, Lawrence (SMTP) [mailto:lwc@roke.co.uk] [ ... ] I haven't seen before: E2U+h323:voice Looking at the code, I suspect that this will successfully break Asterisk's enum.c processing.

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AW: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM (questionable)
by Christoph Künkel 08 Oct '04

08 Oct '04

strange. I had a quick look at http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3261.txt and it reads: Network Working Group J. Rosenberg Request for Comments: 3261 dynamicsoft Obsoletes: 2543 H. Schulzrinne Category: Standards Track ... June 2002 SIP: Session Initiation Protocol no mention of ENUM. also, I work in a company that has ENUM enabled. You can call me (+49 7031 73009) via ENUM from the internet and I certainly have no SIP URI. Same goes true for a number of our customers I know of, which are using ENUM in their telephony production environment. Do I miss something or is this thread falsely mixing up only loosely coupled issues? Regards, Christoph -----Original Message----- From: Conroy, Lawrence (SMTP) [mailto:lwc@roke.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:53 PM To: Adrian Georgescu Cc: Stastny Richard; Carsten Schiefner; Henry Sinnreich; <enum-wg(a)ripe.net> Subject: Re: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM Hi Guys, quick point here - ENUM is according to RFC3261. It's AKA "public" ENUM. It *is* available on the Internet. Anything else is "ENUM-like". >> So Henry says (and I agree), if you do not have a SIP URI, you do not >> have VoIP.

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Re: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM (questionable)
by Stastny Richard 08 Oct '04

08 Oct '04

>>ENUM is 3761 - so just one digit mixed up; and they even look almost the > same. :-) >Happens to me all the time, too... ;-) >> also, I work in a company that has ENUM enabled. You can call me (+49 >> 7031 73009) via ENUM from the internet and I certainly have no SIP URI. >So what kind of URI you are using then - "h323:"? Or "tel:", so that it >is about Internet->PSTN termination? If you look up this domain, you do not find any NAPTR, (only TXT records) so how can I call you? Richard

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AW: AW: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM (questionable)
by Christoph Künkel 08 Oct '04

08 Oct '04

Lawrence, add just any extension to the trunk base number, e.g. 0.9.0.0.3.7.1.3.0.7.9.4.e164.arpa. See the NAPTR. However, I think you missed my point(s). I was not going to debate wether I have a NAPTR or not. I was just trying to make the point that the original thread implied a tight coupling between ENUM and SIP, where there is none. And that Kapsch certainly is not the first company to be reached with ENUM. :-) Christoph -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Conroy, Lawrence (SMTP) [mailto:lwc@roke.co.uk] > Do I miss something or is this thread falsely mixing up only loosely > coupled issues? > Yes, you do miss something.

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AW: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM (questionable)
by Christoph Künkel 08 Oct '04

08 Oct '04

Hi Carsten, kind of "Freud'sche Fehlleistung", isnt it ;-) [ does someone volunteer to translate that therm to english? ] Yes, I am using a h323: URI. We do that for more than 6 months now and some of our customers too, using comercially available equipment. My point is that ENUM and SIP are only loosely related. And VoIP is not SIP, as well as H323 is not VoIP. ENUM is neither about H323 nor SIP nor PSTN. It is about associating e164 numbers to various kinds of services (internet related or not, doesnt matter). :-) Christoph -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Carsten Schiefner [mailto:enumvoipsip.cs@schiefner.de] > no mention of ENUM. ENUM is 3761 - so just one digit mixed up; and they even look almost the same. :-) Happens to me all the time, too... > also, I work in a company that has ENUM enabled. You can call me (+49 > 7031 73009) via ENUM from the internet and I certainly have no SIP URI. So what kind of URI you are using then - "h323:"? Or "tel:", so that it is about Internet->PSTN termination? > Same goes true for a number of our customers I know of, which are using > ENUM in their telephony production environment. > > Do I miss something or is this thread falsely mixing up only loosely > coupled issues? What _exactly!_ is only loosely coupled here from you PoV? Best, Carsten

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Re: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM
by Stastny Richard 07 Oct '04

07 Oct '04

>But WTH is a "public (DIAL) SIP URI"? Just to continue to be on the same >page here as I never came across this term before... I think the term has been brought up by Henry Sinnreich. considering the currently many providers provide VoIP services in a walled garden (.e.g. 3GPP, TISPAN NGN, even Skype), but they do not provide you with a public SIP URI, so you cannot be reached (dialed) on the Internet. So Henry says (and I agree), if you do not have a SIP URI, you do not have VoIP. And especially on an ENUM related list you may add: if you do not have a SIP URI, you cannot use ENUM as well. regards Richard -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Carsten Schiefner [mailto:enumvoipsip.cs@schiefner.de] Gesendet: Mi 06.10.2004 18:06 An: Stastny Richard Cc: enum-wg(a)ripe.net Betreff: Re: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM Hi Richard, Stastny Richard wrote: > but on the other hand this is really the first company I now of > providing public (DIAL) SIP URIs for ALL of their extensions and > putting ALL extensions with Sip and mailto in ENUM. definitions, definitions... :-) But WTH is a "public (DIAL) SIP URI"? Just to continue to be on the same page here as I never came across this term before... Cheers - and thanks a bunch, -C.

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Re: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM
by Richard Shockey 07 Oct '04

07 Oct '04

At 07:02 PM 10/6/2004, Stastny Richard wrote: > >But WTH is a "public (DIAL) SIP URI"? Just to continue to be on the same > >page here as I never came across this term before... I think I need to get T-Shirts made up here... DIAL URI ! NO URI ! NO SIP! >I think the term has been brought up by Henry Sinnreich. considering >the currently many providers provide VoIP services in a walled garden >(.e.g. 3GPP, TISPAN NGN, even Skype), but they do not provide you >with a public SIP URI, so you cannot be reached (dialed) on the Internet. Henry and I have been preaching this at fine VoIP conferences world wide. The issuance of a SIP URI by a SIP service provider is a fundamental definition of a real SIP VoIP service. Now think of someone selling you a email service but does not offer you a email address. What I find totally amazing is that the VoIP service providers in the US and Europe do not understand the "sticky" nature of naming and addressing. How many millions of AOL users stay with the service just because they wont change email addresses. DT....FT, BT certainly must see the same behaivor fon their consumer ISP products etc. I heard that SIP service providers in Europe wouldn't consider confederating using private ENUM because they thought other providers would poach on each others customers. This is total madness. But what else is new. ATT seems to be clueless about this as well..we heard at the SIP summit in Chicago that Vonage was "considering" giving out URI's to its customers ..but no announcement as of yet. This is the opportunity for the biggest land grab by VoIP service providers ever by locking customers into SIP URI's but they seem to want to shoot themselves in the foot by not offering real internet SIP addressing. Mind boggling, madness, just plain stupid ..almost as crazy as well ... invading some middle east country without allies ... >So Henry says (and I agree), if you do not have a SIP URI, you do >not have VoIP. > >And especially on an ENUM related list you may add: if you do not have >a SIP URI, you cannot use ENUM as well. precisely ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:57141@fwd.pulver.com ENUM +87810-13313-31331 PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 <mailto:richard(at)shockey.us> or <mailto:richard.shockey(at)neustar.biz> <http://www.neustar.biz> ; <http://www.enum.org> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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Re: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM
by Jim Reid 06 Oct '04

06 Oct '04

>>>>> "Richard" == Stastny Richard <Richard.Stastny(a)oefeg.at> writes: Richard> BTW, ALL enumservices used by Kapsch are non-IETF Richard> standard but they are ETSI TS 102 172 standard ;-) The nice thing about standards is there are so many to choose from. :-)

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Re: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM
by Stastny Richard 06 Oct '04

06 Oct '04

>I am a bit baffled about the >quite "ambituous" notion to be the first worldwide to have set that up. >I tend to doubt that a bit... Ok, press departments are always overdoing it a bit ;-) and considering AT43 and even OeFEG ;-) but on the other hand this is really the first company I now of providing public (DIAL) SIP URIs for ALL of their extensions and putting ALL extensions with Sip and mailto in ENUM. Richard -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Carsten Schiefner [mailto:enumvoipsip.cs@schiefner.de] Gesendet: Mi 06.10.2004 11:30 An: Stastny Richard Cc: enum-wg(a)ripe.net Betreff: Re: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM Hi Richard, Stastny Richard wrote: > Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM > > Press Release <http://www.kapsch.net/CarrierCom/en/10002_ENU_HTMLExtranetCDEn.htm> thanks for the forward, I already got a pointer to an article in German at: http://pressetext.at/pte.mc?pte=041005002 via a Google Alert late yesterday night. However, - as good as the news itself is - I am a bit baffled about the quite "ambituous" notion to be the first worldwide to have set that up. I tend to doubt that a bit... Anyways and apart from that, I fully agree: congratulations! :-) Best, -C.

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Re: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM
by Richard Shockey 06 Oct '04

06 Oct '04

At 09:13 AM 10/6/2004, Stastny Richard wrote: >BTW, ALL enumservices used by Kapsch are non-IETF standard >but they are ETSI TS 102 172 standard ;-) gurrrrrrrrr <snicker> :-) > >Richard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:57141@fwd.pulver.com ENUM +87810-13313-31331 PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 <mailto:richard(at)shockey.us> or <mailto:richard.shockey(at)neustar.biz> <http://www.neustar.biz> ; <http://www.enum.org> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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Re: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM
by Stastny Richard 06 Oct '04

06 Oct '04

BTW, ALL enumservices used by Kapsch are non-IETF standard but they are ETSI TS 102 172 standard ;-) Richard -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Conroy, Lawrence (SMTP) [mailto:lwc@roke.co.uk] Gesendet: Mi 06.10.2004 15:01 An: Michael Haberler Cc: Stastny Richard; Angerer Christian; Jakob Schlyter; enum-wg(a)ripe.net Betreff: Re: [enum-wg] Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM Jakob, folks, Tempting as it is to utter a two word response, there is a well known issue with 3264 - to "allow backwards compatibility" (i.e. not make a certain large Router manufacturer's kit obsolescent overnight), you can use sip+E2U as well, so ETSI versus IETF is the least of your problems. We now return you to the adverts. Lawrence On 6 Oct 2004, at 13:27, Michael Haberler wrote: > At 14:15 06.10.2004, Jakob Schlyter wrote: > >> I'm happy to see people deploying this, especially for companies. >> >> on the technical side, do you know why Kapsch uses non-standard NAPTR >> like E2U+voice:sip instead of the one specified by RFC 3764 >> (E2U+sip)? >> >> jakob > > no religious issues here;) the fix as per above is in the code waiting > for the next build > > -Michael -- Visit our website at www.roke.co.uk Roke Manor Research Ltd, Roke Manor, Romsey, Hampshire SO51 0ZN, UK. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential to Roke Manor Research Ltd and must not be passed to any third party without permission. This communication is for information only and shall not create or change any contractual relationship.

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Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM
by Stastny Richard 06 Oct '04

06 Oct '04

Kapsch CarrierCom first company to be reached with ENUM Press Release <http://www.kapsch.net/CarrierCom/en/10002_ENU_HTMLExtranetCDEn.htm> Kapsch has deployed a SIP Server giving access to the whole company phone system (with a DIAL URI ;-) and placed all extensions into ENUM. If you want to give it a try, do an ENUM Lookup <http://193.80.173.26:8080/elookup/> The pilot number is +4350811, which gives you the switschboard (+4350811-0 also gives you the switchboard, as usual in Austria and Germany. DDI extensions are 4 digits, e.g. +4350811-3184 (try it, surprise ;-) The query gives back the SIP URI "sip:ext@kapsch.net, the e-mail address "mailto:firstname.lastname@kapsch.net the webpage of the company "http://www.kapsch.net" and the same number as tel URI (obviously for H323 clients) Congratulations!

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VoIP and convergence hits the mainstream?
by Jim Reid 06 Oct '04

06 Oct '04

Apologies that this is a little off-topic for this list. Last week BBC Radio 4's "In Business" did a programme on VoIP and internet/telephony convergence. It had interviews with BT, Skype and Vonage. While it won't have said anything new to us, I thought the programme was a very good overview of this emerging technology. There was no mention of ENUM though. Anyone interested can listen to the programme from its website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/inbusiness/index.shtml Click on "Connections".

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DENIC's 3rd "ENUM day" held
by Carsten Schiefner 01 Oct '04

01 Oct '04

All, DENIC, the registry for 9.4.e164.arpa (Germany/+49), successfully completed its 3rd ENUM day on Tuesday this week - please refer to the press release below. Unfortunately it is availabe in German only so far - I'll post a link to the English translation as soon as it will become available. Regards, Carsten -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [DENICmitglieder] Pressemitteilung: ENUM gewinnt an Fahrt Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:41:12 +0200 From: Klaus Herzig/Denic <herzig(a)denic.de> Reply-To: Klaus Herzig/Denic <herzig(a)denic.de> To: presse(a)denic.de Pressemitteilung Frankfurt am Main, den 28. September 2004 ENUM gewinnt an Fahrt Dritter ENUM-Tag der DENIC eG mit dem Schwerpunkt Sicherheit Im Rahmen des laufenden ENUM-Testbetriebs veranstaltete die Registrierungsstelle DENIC am 28. September 2004 den dritten ENUM-Tag. ENUM ist eine neue Technologie, die eine Brücke zwischen Telekommunikation und Internet schlägt. Über ENUM und die ENUM-Dienste wird den Nutzern anhand der etablierten Rufnummern die gesamte Welt der Kommunikation eröffnet. 140 Experten, unter ihnen viele DENIC-Mitglieder, die bereits ENUM-Domains anbieten, Telekommunikationsdienstleister und Wissenschaftler, diskutierten über die Fortschritte, die ENUM in Deutschland in den letzten Monaten gemacht hat. Seit dem zweiten ENUM-Tag im März 2004 hat sich die Zahl der Provider, die Registrierungen von ENUM-Domains vornehmen, mehr als verdoppelt. Der Nutzer hat inzwischen die Auswahl unter 43 Anbietern. Noch stärker gestiegen ist mit 227 Prozent die Zahl der ENUM-Domains von 260 auf 850. Dies erscheint wenig angesichts der großen Zahl von Telefonanschlüssen. Unter jeder ENUM-Domains lassen sich aber ganze Telefonanlagen mit vielen hundert bis tausend Nebenstellen betreiben, so dass die Zahl der Anwender von ENUM deutlich höher liegt als die Zahl der Domains. Ein wichtiges Thema des ENUM-Tages war das Thema Sicherheit sowie Konzepte, wie das Problem von SPAM im Bereich der Internet-Telephonie (auch SPIT genannt) angegangen werden kann. In beiden Fällen spielen Aspekte der Authentifizierung (also der Frage, ob der angezeigte Absender einer Nachricht auch wirklich derjenige ist) und des Schutzes vor Datenausspähung und Datenveränderung eine Rolle. Hier wurden von den Referenten verschiedene Modelle für zukünftige Lösungsstrategien vorgestellt. So beschäftigte sich Professor Dr. Andreas Steffen von der Zürcher Hochschule Winterthur mit Sicherheitsfragen auf der technischen Protokollebene des ENUM-Standards. John-Erik Horn stellte seine Vorstellungen für ein rein internetgebundenes Telefonnetz für Deutschland vor, das flächendeckend ENUM beim Verbindungsaufbau einsetzt. ENUM wurde jedoch nicht nur aus technischer Sicht betrachtet. Dr. Volker Leib, Sozialwissenschaftler am Nexus-Institut in Berlin, stuft Internet, Voice-over-IP und ENUM als bedeutende Innovationen ein, die zu grundlegenden Strukturänderungen führen werden und zum Teil bereits geführt haben. So werde sich die technische Grundlage der Telefonie in den nächsten Jahren gewaltig verändern. Große Telekommunikationsunternehmen wie die Deutsche Telekom oder die British Telecom gingen davon aus, dass das bisherige Telefonnetz innerhalb der kommenden fünf bis zehn Jahre abgeschaltet und durch ein auf der Internet-Technologie basierendes IP-Netz ersetzt wird. Dennoch würden die derzeitigen Telefonnummern auch weiterhin in Gebrauch bleiben, ebenso wie die über zwei Milliarden Telefonanschlüsse, die es weltweit gibt. Leib plädiert daher für eine vorausschauende Innovationspolitik, die einen Rahmen für die zukünftige Entwicklung bereitstellt, der Rechts- und Planungssicherheit für die beteiligten Unternehmen gewährleistet. Daneben müsse ein leichter Markzutritt für Anbieter von Voice-over-IP-Diensten ermöglicht werden. Es sei immens wichtig, auf einen baldigen Beginn des ENUM-Wirkbetriebs hinzuarbeiten und den Übergang vom derzeitigen Testbetrieb auf den Wirkbetrieb so unkompliziert wie möglich zu gestalten, so Leib abschließend. Die Präsentationen und Vortragsunterlagen sind in Kürze auch unter http://www.denic.de/de/enum/veranstaltungen/denic_enum-tage/index.html zu finden. Hintergrund: ENUM ENUM leitet sich ab von telephone number mapping und steht für ein Protokoll, mit dem Ressourcen aus dem Telekommunikations- und dem Internetbereich verknüpft werden können. Es definiert eine Vorschrift, mit der eine Telefonnummer in eindeutiger Weise auf eine Domain abgebildet wird. Diese Domain kann dann zur Identifizierung unterschiedlicher Kommunikationsdienste herangezogen werden, zum Beispiel Fax, Mobilfunk, Voice Mail Systeme, E-Mail-Adressen, IP-Telefonie-Adressen, Webseiten, oder Anrufumleitungen. Die Idee, die hinter ENUM steckt, ist so einfach wie bestechend. Statt sich mit einer Vielzahl von Rufnummern und Adressen für Privat- und Bürotelefon, Handy, Fax, E-Mail oder Webseite auseinandersetzen zu müssen, die nur mit sehr viel Aufwand aktuell zu halten sind, genügt es in Zukunft, eine einzige Nummer in sein Adressverzeichnis einzutragen. Die Zuordnung zu den jeweils passenden Ausgabegeräten übernehmen die Einträge im ENUM-Nameserver. Durch die Verknüpfung von Telefonnummern und Internet-Ressourcen ergeben sich völlig neue Dienste. Ein Basisdienst ist das Auffinden eines telephoniefähigen Internet-Endgerätes von einem herkömmlichen Telefon aus. Optional liefert ENUM aber auch Hinweise auf zusätzliche Kommunikationsmöglichkeiten. Sollte ein telephoniefähiges Internet-Endgerät nicht erreichbar sein, kann aus der Liste weiterer Anwendungen eine entsprechende Alternative ausgewählt werden. Weitere Information zu ENUM und zum Testbetrieb bei der DENIC erhält man auf der DENIC-Webseite http://www.denic.de/de/enum/index.html. DENIC> Dr. Klaus Herzig DENIC> Pressestelle DENIC> DENIC eG DENIC> Wiesenhüttenplatz 26 DENIC> 60329 Frankfurt am Main, Germany DENIC> Tel. +49 69 27235-274, Fax. +49 69 27235-235 DENIC> E-Mail: presse(a)DENIC.de DENIC> http://www.denic.de

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+43 ENUM operations contract - english version, press release online
by Carsten Schiefner 01 Oct '04

01 Oct '04

Better late than never - originally sent to <enum-announce(a)ripe.net>, but neither approved there nor diverted to <enum-wg(a)ripe.net>. Cheers, -C. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: +43 ENUM operations contract - english version, press release online Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:47:18 +0200 From: Michael Haberler <mah(a)eunet.at> To: enum(a)ietf.org, karen.mulberry(a)mci.com, robert.johnston(a)aca.gov.au, Gordon.Lennox(a)cec.eu.int, ga(a)lists.centr.org, enum-announce(a)ripe.net, richard.hill(a)itu.int, enum-l(a)denic.de, enum-trial(a)lists.nic.at on August 24 enum.at GmbH concluded the operations contract for the Austrian ENUM service (3.4.e164.arpa). The english version of the contract is now online at: http://www.rtr.at/web.nsf/lookuid/37ECAC2EFFDD8063C1256F0A0041B3F9/$file/EN… A press release about this contract can be found at: http://www.enum.at/egc.pdf Michael Haberler Internet Foundation Austria

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