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[#XWM-610908]: Re: [enum-wg] ENUM Adoption - Does a business case matter?
by Stream Service 27 Jul '09

27 Jul '09

Hello Rui, Currently the price for an ENUM domain in the Netherlands at a registrar is around 20 euro/year. This doesn't sound much, but when you look at how many we would need to register and how often currently we receive a call it is much. We could also become a registrar, but that would even cost more for as far as I know. With kind regards, Mark Scholten Stream Service (Algemeen) info(a)streamservice.nl Tel : +31 (0)53-7112711 Fax : +31 (0)53-7112716 Ticket Details =================== Ticket ID: XWM-610908 Department: Stream Service (Algemeen) Priority: Low Status: prioriteit laag

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ENUM Adoption - Does a business case matter?
by Rui Ribeiro 09 Jul '09

09 Jul '09

Hi All, I'm new to the list, so this will be my first post... I'm making a master thesis on ENUM and its adoption (or non adoption). My background is 100% technical, so I'm "a believer" that ENUM is like a swiss knife to handle all kind of addressing problems between E-164 numbering and the new Internet URI based services. It can solve many other problems and can, even, be the base/enabler to new services. But I wonder if this is the pragmatic view that we should have about new things. What if ENUM is getting "hard" to deploy because it can't provide a business model to its "stake holders"? Do users understand it and are willing to pay for it? Do companies understand it and are willing to pay for it? Do operators want to explain to their users what it is, while risking their benifits? Do constructers will make R&D on products that users don't understand? Is there a killer application other than VoIP for ENUM? In other words: "does the business case mater for ENUM adoption?" I'm aware that Austria, Switzerland, Germany, Ireland and others have progressed to "final" deployment. I would like to exchange some mails with some of you about the financial aspect of the ENUM "technology". (fees, costs, ENUM registers per capita/phone number, service levels, ...) Is ENUM a solution to gain money, or a solution to loose less money? If it is to gain, who gains? Tier-1, Tier-2? (the user pays...) If it is to loose less, who does? The operators, the users? Many, many questions more... but only for you if you are interested. Sorry about this "off-topic"/"non-technical" post, but didn't know where to go to ask this. Thank you all, Rui Ribeiro racribeiro(a)gmail.com

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[#XWM-610908]: Re: [enum-wg] ENUM Adoption - Does a business case matter?
by Stream Service 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

Hello Florian, The typical cost for a phone plan (mobile) are starting at 10 euro/month and for a landline it is also around 10 euro/month if I am correct. But this is without any calls, I did check the usage for last year and paying 20 euro/year/number would only increase the costs (no savings yet). The costs for a ENUM domain should be lower if you ask me. With kind regards, Mark Scholten Stream Service (Algemeen) info(a)streamservice.nl Tel : +31 (0)53-7112711 Fax : +31 (0)53-7112716 Ticket Details =================== Ticket ID: XWM-610908 Department: Stream Service (Algemeen) Priority: Low Status: Open

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[Fwd: UK ENUM Consortium - Notice of Annual General Meeting - 25 June]
by Peter Gradwell 06 Jun '09

06 Jun '09

[ Apologies for cross-posting ] Members / Potential Members *UK ENUM Consortium - Notice of Annual General Meeting - 25 June* ** We have recently been appointed as the UK ENUM Consortium's Secretariat and I am therefore writing on behalf of the UKEC Board of Directors to inform you that the Annual General Meeting of the UK ENUM Consortium is to take place on: *Thursday 25 June 2009 at the Radisson SAS Portman Hotel, Montagu Suite, 1st Floor, 22 Portman Square, London W1H 7BG* You should have recieved information from my Nominet colleague Kathryn Francis about the next ENUM Information Day commencing with coffee and registration at 9am and finishing with lunch at 12.30pm. The *AGM will then start at 2pm*, followed by a Policy Advisory Board which will help the UKEC Board of Directors in the development of the UKEC Business Plan and in formulating priorities for 2009/10 and beyond*.* One of the key topics to be discussed will be CRU. ** Please find attached the agenda for the AGM. The UKEC Memorandum and Articles of Association require notice of the AGM to be given 21 days in advance of the meeting taking place - which is today - however at this time we are unable to give formal notice as it is a requirement to also send out all the accompanying documentation. The UKEC Directors recently took the decision to undertake a formal review of the the M & As which is ongoing. *So on their behalf I am writing to seek your permission to use the short notice procedures under the Companies Act 2006 which allows us to serve formal notice in less than the required 21 days - and so with your agreement - we will then send out the formal notice a few days before 25 June with both the revised Memorandum and Articles of Association and the company accounts. * *Please can you confirm your acceptance to me by return and_ also let me know if you are intending to attend the AGM_* * . If you are also intending to join us for the ENUM Information Day and Lunch please let Kathryn Francis at Nominet know at* k.francis(a)nominet.org.uk <mailto:k.francis@nominet.org.uk> including any specific dietary requirements. I very much hope that you will be able to join us for what I am sure will be an informative and interesting day and in particular for the AGM and Policy Advisory Board, which are important steps in moving ENUM forward. I look forward to hearing from you and should you have any queries please do not hesitate to contact me. kind regards Jane Jane Smith Account Director Secretariat *The UK ENUM Consortium* 111 Buckingham Palace Road London SW1W 0SR Tel: 020 7340 8749 URL: www.ukec.co.uk/ -- peter gradwell. <gradwell>. http://www.gradwell.net/ <business_voip/email/web_hosting> <t:01225 800 810> Registered at 26 Cheltenham St, BA2 3EX, No: 3673235.

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