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RIPE EIX wg follow up
by Bertrand Duvivier (bduvivie) 11 Nov '11

11 Nov '11

Ondrej, Maksym, Wolfgang, EIX team, First I would like you to thanks for having sharing some of your operation concern during EIX WG at Ripe. Regarding the case raised by Ondrej: IOS-XR couldn't allow to set SOO (site of origin extended community) : ASN 0:xxxx. This is now fixed for coming XR 4.2.1 release (target Q1/Q2 2012). For reference, the fix id is: CSCts48869 Regarding the case raise by Maksym and Wolfgang: The need to set "proxy ARP" off by default. Another fix is on it's way, will provide details soon. BTW: I also created a email alias ask-cisco-ix(a)cisco.com <mailto:ask-cisco-ix@cisco.com> I will encourage the EIX wg community to ask question or report concern to Cisco using this alias (even if you don't have Cisco Equipment) to get these kind of issues resolve faster. Thanks again Bertrand Bertrand Duvivier L3VPN, BGP, ISIS, CLNS & CEF PRODUCT MANAGER Corporate Development bduvivie(a)cisco.com Mobile: +32 478 68 13 36 Cisco Systems Belgium BVBA/SPRL Belgium Cisco.com <http://www.cisco.com> Think before you print. This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Cisco Systems Belgium BVBA/SPRL De Kleetlaan 6A - Pegasus Park B-1831 Diegem BTW BE 047.138.227 RPR/RPM Brussel/Bruxelles For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html <http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html>

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EIX @RIPE63 Vienna - 3 November 2011 - Updated Agenda
by Fearghas McKay 03 Nov '11

03 Nov '11

EIX Working Group Thursday, 3 November, 11:00 - 12.30 & 14:00 - 15:30 A: Administrative Matters (5 min) * Welcome * Scribe * Chat monitor * Microphone etiquette * Agenda Bashing B. The Local Peering Scene "All about Peering in Austria" 20 mins Christian Panigl, VIX C. EIX Activity Updates - new ipv4 policy and switch wishlist" 20 mins Andy Davidson, LONAP D. "Monitoring Platforms for Internet Exchange Points" 20 mins Harald Michl or a VIX representative E. "How to resolve edge redundency for peering". 20 mins Kurt Erik Lindqvist, Netnod -=-=- Lunch Break -=-=- F. "Jumbo Frames in AMS-IX" 15 mins Maksym Tulyuk, AMS-IX G. "Extended Communities for Route-Servers and ASN32" 20 mins Ondrej Filip , NIX.CZ H. Update on ISC routing project 5 mins Joao Damos, ISC I. "Proxy-Arp and why it must be disabled when connecting to an Internet-Exchange" 15 Mins Wolfgang Tremmel DE-CIX J. "Danger of proxy ARP in IX environment" 15 mins Maksym Tulyuk, AMS-IX K. APIX Update 10 mins Gaurab Raj Upadhaya L. Euro-IX Update 10 mins Bijal Sanghani, Euro-IX M. IX Announcements No slides, come forward to the microphone, no statistics just 30 seconds of important updates! If you want contact details added to the meeting slides please send email to eix-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net JPNAP LINX ESPANIX N. AOCB

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EIX @RIPE63 Vienna - 3 November 2011
by Fearghas McKay 21 Oct '11

21 Oct '11

Greetings, Please see below draft agenda for the EIX WG We can probably squeeze another talk in if you have something burning to discuss. The final item is intended to replace the IXP updates - a quick slot where you can announce new projects, major updates etc. We will have an agenda slide that will have contain contact details - please email them to eix-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net before the second session. See you in Vienna! Andy & Fearghas --==--==-- EIX Working Group Thursday, 3 November, 11:00 - 12.30 & 14:00 - 15:30 A: Administrative Matters (5 min) * Welcome * Scribe * Chat monitor * Microphone etiquette * Agenda Bashing B. The Local Peering Scene "All about Peering in Austria" 20 mins Harald Michl, VIX C. EIX Activity Updates - new ipv4 policy and switch wishlist" 20 mins Andy Davidson, LONAP D. "Monitoring Platforms for Internet Exchange Points" 20 mins Harald Michl or a VIX representative E. "Jumbo Frames in AMS-IX" 15 mins Maksym Tulyuk, AMS-IX F. "Extended Communities for Route-Servers and ASN32" 20 mins Ondrej Filip , NIX.CZ G. Update on ISC routing project 5 mins Peter Losher, ISC H. "Proxy-Arp and why it must be disabled when connecting to an Internet-Exchange" 15 Mins Wolfgang Tremmel DE-CIX I. "Danger of proxy ARP in IX environment" 15 mins Maksym Tulyuk, AMS-IX J. EIX Activity Updates - new ipv4 policy and switch wishlist" 20 mins Andy Davidson, LONAP K. APIX Update 10 mins Gaurab Raj Upadhaya L. Euro-IX Update 10 mins Bijal Sanghani, Euro-IX M. IX Announcements No slides, come forward to the microphone, no statistics just 30 seconds of important updates! If you want contact details added to the meeting slides please send email to eix-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net N. AOCB

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Call for Plenary Presentations & BoF Topics at RIPE63
by Fearghas McKay 16 Sep '11

16 Sep '11

Hi Just a quick reminder that the new Programme Committee is still looking for plenary presentations & BoF topics for RIPE63 in Vienna. Submissions can be made here: http://ripe63.ripe.net/programme/submit-a-topic/ Andy and myself are also still looking for presentations for EIX. The latest version of the Meeting Plan is now available at: http://ripe63.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/ We have two slots on Thursday 3 November. Thanks Fearghas & Andy

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RIPE 63 - Solicitation for content for EIX-WG
by Andy Davidson 01 Sep '11

01 Sep '11

Dear colleagues, RIPE63 will take place in Vienna between 31st October and 4th November 2011. You are invited to submit proposals for presentations during the EIX Working Group slot. The final meeting plan has not been agreed, so until your chairs have finished wrestling for the prime slots, we can not publish the exact time that EIX-wg will take place. We will do this when the final meeting plan is published. We are looking for : * Extended talks from ISPs on peering issues (15-30 mins) * Extended talks on IXP research/development projects (15-30 mins) We are also looking for : * IXP news from IXPs who are new, or have not presented before at a RIPE meeting (3 mins each) * IXP news from IXPs with new product/research/plans to update the RIPE meeting with (3 mins each). There is immense competition for slots at the RIPE EIX Working Group session, so if you want to present, please get in touch with a synopsis early. Remember too, to register for the meeting at http://ripe63.ripe.net/ Best wishes, Andy and Fearghas

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not announcing IXP IPv6 peering lan prefixes in global BGP table possibly breaks PMTUD
by Christian Seitz 25 Jul '11

25 Jul '11

Hello, FYI: I have started a discussion about the problem in the subject of this email on the ipv6-wg mailing list. I have not crossposted to this list although it's interesting for both, because it does not make the discussion easy when some replies are only sent to one of the lists. You are invited to discuss on ipv6-wg ;-) Regards from Berlin, Chris

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Re: [ipv6-wg] v6day.ripe.net
by Marco Hogewoning 07 Jun '11

07 Jun '11

On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Robert Kisteleki wrote: > Our dashboard for world IPv6 day is now officially open at > > http://v6day.ripe.net/ > > It leads to loads of statistical and diagnostic information. > We are still tweaking it a little and adding things. > > Enjoy > > Robert Looks like somebody is doing test runs across ams-ix or did some private peering flap ? Anybody in the EIX community that sees the same or who can shed some light on this ? Marco (just a curious citizen)

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Participate Now: RIPE NCC Membership and Stakeholder Survey
by Axel Pawlik 19 May '11

19 May '11

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear colleagues, You still have time to take part in the RIPE NCC Membership and Stakeholder Survey 2011. The survey can be taken at: https://www.ripe.net/survey2011 ================== Important Feedback ================== This survey comes at a critical point as it will influence the strategy of the RIPE NCC following the depletion of the IPv4 address pool. The analysis of the survey results will be conducted by the Oxford Internet Institute, and all identifying information will be removed before the data is given to the RIPE NCC. For the first time, the survey is open to all stakeholders in the RIPE community in addition to RIPE NCC members. So far, over 300 people have responded to the survey. We aim to receive 1,000 responses by the survey closing date of 10 June. The survey should take only 10-15 minutes to complete. =========== Win an iPad =========== To encourage participation in the survey, the RIPE NCC is giving away five iPads to respondents chosen at random by the OII. Next week, we will announce the "early bird" winner of the first iPad, who will be drawn from those who responded to the survey by 16 May. The other four iPads will be drawn at random from all respondents. We look forward to receiving your input. Best regards, Axel Pawlik Managing Director RIPE NCC

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Draft minutes from RIPE62 (Amsterdam)
by Andy Davidson 12 May '11

12 May '11

Hi, everyone. Please find below the draft minutes from the EIX working group sessions, held at RIPE 62 last week. Should you have any amendments, please get in touch. Andy === RIPE 62 EIX Working Group – Session I and II Amsterdam, 4 May 2011 11:00-12:30 and 5 May 2011, 09:00-11:00 Co-chairs: Andy Davidson, Fearghas McKay A. Administrative Matters • Welcome Fearghas McKay welcomed the attendees and began the EIX session at 11:08 local time. • Finalise agenda Fearghas went through the agenda and asked if there were any additions or omissions. There were none. • Scribe and Jabber Monitor Fearghas thanked the technical team, scribe and chat monitor from the RIPE NCC for their help during the session. Fearghas asked for comments on the draft minutes from RIPE 61. There were none. Minutes were approved. B. New IXPs in a Post IPv4 World Andy Davidson, LONAP / Hurricane Electric Andy asked for comments on the proposal to reserve a /16 from the final /8 soley for the IXPs. Will Hargrave from LONAP supported the proposal. James Blessing from Limelight Networks said it was a good idea and suggested taking a /16 from the existing space now rather than from the last /8. Kurtis Lindquist supported Andy’s proposal. Bill Woodcock, ARIN Board of Trustees, commented that the previous suggestions were good and suggested that this reserved space not be just for new exchanges, but also for those that have a /24 and suddenly need to be in a /23 because of a bump in participant growth. Christian Panigl, VIX, supported Andy’s idea and and suggested finding sponsors because there are lots of organisations with big amounts of /16s that might be willing to donate it to the IXPs. Henk Steenman, AMS-IX, supported the idea. Aleksi Suhonen, TREX, said he supported Andy’s proposal, James’ suggestion and potentially Bill’s idea but only if the document says what the minimum assignnment size for the IXP should be. Anders XXX, supported the idea as long as it didn’t mean putting a price on getting an IP pool. He suggested adding that maybe the space shouldn’t be routed. Andy replied that there was a long-standing tradition that address policy and routing policy don’t overlap in the RIPE PDP. He added that many IXPs make a deliberate decision to route or to announce their peering LANS because their members ask them and to make debugging work. He said it was a good suggestion, but difficult to implement. Several more attendees stepped up to the mic to voice support for Andy’s proposal. Andy thanked everyone for their support and said he would attend the Address Policy Working Group session the following morning to present the proposal. C. New/Future IXP Services Henk Steenman, AMS-IX Christian Panigl, VIX, asked whether the SLAs came with penalties, if the customers have to claim those penalties, and if you can still get the contract without SLAs and one with SLAs but with a higher price? Henk confirmed that this was the case for all of Christian’s questions. D. Renumbering an IXP Petr Jiran, NIX.CZ There were no questions for Petr. E. Open Source Routing Forum Introduction Keith Mitchell (ISC) There were no questions for Keith. F. Futuristic route-servers Job Snijders (Prefix Servers) Blake Willis, L33 Networks, asked if Job thought about making an making API available behind the interface. Job replied that APIs are usually good, but if you’re already updating the AS-set, it could be twice the work. But it could be useful if policy is enforced as fast as possible. API could be a nice method to kick the script and do it now. Andreas Polyrakis, GRNET, asked if the RPSL would be written in the web interface or in the AUT-NUM object of the peer. Job replied that it what happens with a customers AUT-NUM is up to the customer. Andreas agreed and stressed that you shouldn’t request that the customer to change its own AUT-NUM. Job replied that RPSL was nice but he didn’t want hard dependancy on it because chances of mistakes or misunderstanding syntax is too complicated to rely on it blindly. Andreas replied that RPSL was very limited and there was a need for another way to describe routing policies. Job agreed. He said problem is that RPSL is used to describe what you will do with direct neighbours, you can’t describe what will happen a hub away and that’s needed in the route server context. Sergio Ramos, chat, asked if Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD was suitable for route servers and if there were plans to implement it? Job replied that if you talk BFD with the route server, it’s useful, but what’s needed is if a route server can redistribute information that two distribute, and set up a BFD session with each other. He added that David Freement from Clarinet is working on something like this and he’d use it if it became available on the market. Niels Bakker, AMS-IX, commented that unlike what Job said on on his website, AMS-IX is perfectly capable of running ASN32. Job asked him to explain how it worked with BGP communities. Niels said they don’t use BGP communities. Job apologised. Fearghas announced that Ondrej Filip from CZ.NIC would be giving a one-minute lightening talk and then Serge Radovic would give his EURO-IX update, pulling this agenda item from Friday. Ondrey Filip, CZ.NIC, gave an update on routing demon, BIRD. Kurtis jokingly asked for ISIS. There were no other questions. H. EURO-IX Update - Serge Radovic There were no questions for Serge. Andy concluded the session and thanked the tech support, scribe, chat, etc. SESSION II – Friday, 8 May, 9:30 EIX Working Group co-Chair Andy Davidson welcomed attendees and opened the session at 9:30 local time. He encouraged attendees to participate in the EIX Working Group by joining the mailing list. G. IX News Nurani Nimpuno from Netnod gave an update on Netnod. There were no questions. Elisa Jasinska from Arizona IX gave an update. Soneone asked how many sessions were up. Elisa said there was one. David Temkin from Telx asked who was responsible for engineering. Elisa said she was. Andreas Sturm from DE-CIX gave an update. There were no questions from Andreas. Peter Lieven from ECIX gave an update. There were no questions for Peter. Franck Simon from France-IX gave an update. There were no questions for Franck. Lucian Obrocea from InterLAN gave an update. There were no questions for Lucian. John Souter from LINX gave an update. There were no questions for John. H. Research and Development projects at TREX, Finland Aleksi Suhonen Andy Davidson asked if he’d be willing to share some of the R&D projects. Aleksi replied that the installation process was fairly straight-forward, so they could make the documentation more presentable and share it, yes. There were no other questions. I. AOB Andy opened the floor for any IXPs that wanted to give a quick presentation. Harald Michl from NIX gave an update. There were no questions. Matjaž Straus Istenič from SIX gave an update. Remco van Mook commented that “quality of service” is actually a fantastic marketing term because it’s all about dropping packets, not improving the quality. He added that if you have got two members who want this is than there is a fantastic layer one solution: a patch cable. Matjaž said there might be more of them. Remco replied that in that case, run more patch cables. Aleksi commented that the layer 2 quality of service should be honoured and that the operators then should make it the standard way you treat those and make it available to members. Then it’s their responsibility to map their internal QoS or class of service over the shared medium. Matjaž replied that they don’t want to move to trunks, but have no simple access ports without trunking. Aleksi Suhonen, TREX, commented that they make addition services part of basic service model so it wouldn’t be just peering. Members can decide whether they want VLAN 4 trunking or not. So he doesn’t think it will be a problem. Andy Davidson asked Matjaž to report back on progress. Remco van Mook gave an update on Equinix. David Temkin from Telx gave an update. There were no questions for David. Andy concluded the session, thanked attendees and reminded attendees to join the mailing list. ===

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Revised Friday agenda for EIX
by Andy Davidson 04 May '11

04 May '11

Hi, Round 2 of EIX has a slightly altered agenda : *** We will be starting at 9:30, rather than 9:00 *** G IXP News Arizona IX, USA. Elisa Jasinska DE-CIX, Germany – Andreas Sturm ECIX, Germany – Peter Lieven France-IX, France, Franck Simon InterLAN, Romania, Lucian Obrocea LINX, UK, John Souter Netnod, Sweden, Nurani Nimpuno H Research and Development projects at TREX, Finland (20 Mins) (Aleksi Suhonen) I AOB Best wishes, Andy

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