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by Nipper, Arnold 05 Nov '01

05 Nov '01

Dear all, as said on our first General Meeting we created an open forum for submitting proposals to Euro-IX. Pls see details on www.euro-ix.net/projects. Looking forward for a whole bunch of ideas, Arnold -- Presidente Euro-IX -- -- Arnold Nipper / DE-CIX, the German Internet Exchange email: arnold.nipper(a)de-cix.net phone: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 1212 512 364 310

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New model RIPE NCC Test-box
by Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC) 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

Dear all, (Apologies for any duplicate mails) The RIPE NCC is pleased to announce its new model test-box for the Test-Traffic Measurements (TTM) service. This machine offers several advantages over the test-boxes that have previously been installed: * A 1u high cabinet. This means that the machine only takes a quarter of the rack space compared to the old model. * Hardware support for the machines will be transferred to the Dell sales organization in your country, with next business day support at your office. This eliminates the need to send broken test-boxes back to Amsterdam and will increase the uptime of the machine. * 2 Network Interface Cards (NIC's). This will allow you to assign 2 addresses to the machine and connect it to 2 border routers. The test-box can then be used to measure delays and latencies through 2 different upstream providers. For more details about this, please refer to: http://www.ripe.net/test-traffic/Talks/0110_RIPE40_HU/sld015.html These machines offer all features that are currently being offered on the test-boxes, including the WWW interface to the data announced last week. For a full list of features, please see: http://www.ripe.net/test-traffic/Notes/ A public demo of the WWW interface is available at: http://tt01.ripe.net:10259/ The old test-box model will remain test-box will available. This model is recommended for sites that need a 3rd NIC or other special hardware. When in doubt, please contact us at <ttm(a)ripe.net>. Test-boxes can be ordered online at: http://www.ripe.net/test-traffic/Host_testbox/host_testbox.html For more information about the TTM service in general, please see: http://www.ripe.net/test-traffic/ For sites interested in upgrading their existing test-boxes, we offer the possibility of a trade-in. If you return a test-box from series A or B (serial numbers tt02 to tt47), we will offer a 400 Euro discount on the new box. For details please email us at ttm(a)ripe.net. Kind regards, Henk Uijterwaal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(a)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre WWW: http://www.ripe.net/home/henk Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ As long as you don't tell your friends how I played the hand, then I won't tell my friends how you defended it. (Anonymous)

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Fwd: [GLOBAL-V6] FWD: Summary of recent IPv6 discussions within APNIC and RIPE
by Fearghas McKay 19 Oct '01

19 Oct '01

--- begin forwarded text X-Authentication-Warning: data.staff.apnic.net: majordom set sender to owner-global-v6(a)lists.apnic.net using -f To: global-v6(a)lists.apnic.net Subject: [GLOBAL-V6] FWD: Summary of recent IPv6 discussions within APNIC and RIPE Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:27:43 -0400 From: Thomas Narten <narten(a)watson.ibm.com> Sender: owner-global-v6(a)lists.apnic.net ------- Forwarded Message From: Thomas Narten <narten(a)watson.ibm.com> To: v6wg(a)arin.net Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:07:11 -0400 Subject: Summary of recent IPv6 discussions within APNIC and RIPE Here is a summary of recent activity related to IPv6 addressing policy. Credit goes to Richard Jimmerson for putting it together with help from RIPE and APNIC. This will serve as background for the upcoming v6 WG meeting in Miami, where these topics will be discussed. Thomas (with WG Chair hat in place) ***** APNIC ***** There was a joint IPv6/Policy session relating to iPv6 address policy held at the last APNIC meeting. During this session there were two separate IPv6 policy proposals made. The following day these two policy proposals were merged. There was consensus that many of the principles outlined in the proposal document were sound, but there was general agreement that further discussion was needed at the global level -- in particular, the initial allocation size from the RIRs. There was consensus that the IPv6 bootstrap period should be extended until the next IPv6 policy is implemented, with the understanding that the next policy takes account of bootstrapping needs. There was consensus to accept the proposal for APNIC to assign IPv6 address space to Internet exchanges. The assignment size agreed upon was a /64. ***** RIPE NCC ***** There were two separate sessions that covered the topic of IPv6 addressing policy -- 1) The IPv6/LIR joint session 2) The IPv6/LIR/EIX joint session 1) The IPv6/LIR joint session discussed the IPv6 policy proposal language, summarized the discussions that took place at the APNIC meeting, and reviewed a proposal submitted by Dave Pratt. There were many similarities between these three offerings. The group seemed to agree on principles such as using the HD-ratio for checking utilization, the fact current IPv4 utilization would be considered when evaluating an initial request for IPv6 address space, and many other points from the IPv6 proposal language, but objected to the references to "slow start," as there was concern the minimum allocation size may be too small and that LIRs would have to return to the RIR too often. One of the main points that was left open and identified as needed further discussion was the initial allocation size from the RIR. It was agreed that this point and others would be best discussed on a global mailing list so the discussions of the three regions remained in sync. It was also decided that the RIRs should continue work on an interim policy document with the help of the community while these discussions are going on. It was felt that even though there are still some open issues, the new proposed policies are much better than what we have now. 2) The IPv6/LIR/EIX joint session discussed the proposed policy of the RIPE NCC assigning IPv6 address space to exchange points. There was much discussion about what size to assign IXes (/64 or /48). It was argued some IXes may need more than a /64, so a /48 should be assigned for purposes of administrative ease. Many people supported this notion, as almost every other type of "site" would receive a /48 anyway. It was also observed that IXes may not even need space from the RIR and that they could use link-local addresses. It was countered that link-local may not work because some exchange customers may want to traceroute to one another. The final consensus was that exchange points should receive their IPv6 address space from a RIR. ------- End of Forwarded Message - - This list (global-v6) is handled by majordomo(a)lists.apnic.net --- end forwarded text

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Reminder about presentations from RIPE40
by Fearghas McKay 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

Can anyone who has not sent their Powerpoint to either RIPE <webmaster(a)ripe.net> or to me <fm(a)st-kilda.org> please do so asap so they can update the webpages. Thanks Fearghas

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Updated agendas and times of the joint policy sessions
by David Kessens 02 Oct '01

02 Oct '01

Hi, The meeting schedule indicates that the joint lir/ipv6 wg session is starting at 14:00, wednesday, October 3rd. However, as mentioned earlier in the agenda itself, the joint lir/ipv6 session will start at 16:00 and the lir wg will use the the time from 14:00 - 15:30. Also, the agenda has been modified slightly. The new ipv6 draft policy document is published now and Mirjam will give an outline presentation regarding the new draft. I hope this helps, David K. --- Agenda for the IPv6/lir joint session RIPE40, Prague Wednesday October 3rd, 2001, 16:00 - 17:30 Topic: Revision of the general ipv6 allocation guidelines Materials to read: - ripe-196: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ipv6policy.html - http://www.djp.net/ipv6/proposal.html - http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/archive/ripe-39/presentations/RIPE39-IPv6… A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe - agenda bashing B. How to proceed for the next iteration of the policy. C. Proposal for the next version of the policy http://www.djp.net/ipv6/proposal.html (Dave Pratt) D. RIR IPv6 Address Policy Proposal - Outline (Mirjam) - Results of the proposal discussion at the last APNIC meeting Takashi Arano (JPNIC/Asia Global Crossing) Gerard Ross (APNIC) E. Discussion Z. AOB ------------------------- Agenda for the IPv6/lir/eix joint session RIPE40, Prague Thursday October 4th, 2001, 11:00 - 12:30 Topic: Interim policy for allocation of ipv6 addresses for Internet Exchange Points A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe - agenda bashing B. How to proceed for the next iteration of the policy. C. Selection of most important issues that we want to discuss during this session: - how to proceed from the interim policy ?!? - default /64 or /48 allocation size - do we want to have this space allocated from a special block, may be even block that is used by all RIRs for this purpose - what documentation is needed to get an allocation - is there any need to document allocations in the RIPE database, and if so, how ?!? - general wording of the policy (Mirjam will present these issues) D. Discussion of the issues Z. AOB ---

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Details for NIX.cz visit
by Fearghas McKay 02 Oct '01

02 Oct '01

Apologies for the spelling! meet at 8.45 am Jiriho z Podebrad Station Greenline A +42 0602 310 423

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Agendas for IPv6/lir/eix joint sessions RIPE40
by David Kessens 27 Sep '01

27 Sep '01

Hi, Below follow the official agendas for the joint sessions regarding ipv6 allocation policies. We have asked to schedule two seperate sessions, one for discussions regarding the new interim policy for exchange points, and one for discussions regarding the revision of the general allocation guidelines. We would like to limit any discussion to the lir-wg maillist to minimize the amount of duplicate mails. Please let me (and Fearghas&Hans Petter) know if you have any last minute additions that you want to have discussed and we will try to accomodate your request. Please note that the current meeting plan on the website has one extra slot allocated to the lir/ipv6 joint session that will be used by the lir wg and not by the lir/ipv6 joint session. Thanks, David K. --- Agenda for the IPv6/lir joint session RIPE40, Prague Wednesday October 3rd, 2001, 16:00 - 17:30 Topic: Revision of the general ipv6 allocation guidelines Materials to read: - ripe-196: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ipv6policy.html - http://www.djp.net/ipv6/proposal.html - http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/archive/ripe-39/presentations/RIPE39-IPv6… A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe - agenda bashing B. How to proceed for the next iteration of the policy. C. Proposal for the next version of the policy http://www.djp.net/ipv6/proposal.html (Dave Pratt) D. New IPv6 Address Policy Proposal Gerard Ross (APNIC) Takashi Arano (JPNIC/Asia Global Crossing) E. Discussion Z. AOB ------------------------- Agenda for the IPv6/lir/eix joint session RIPE40, Prague Thursday October 4th, 2001, 11:00 - 12:30 Topic: Interim policy for allocation of ipv6 addresses for Internet Exchange Points A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe - agenda bashing B. How to proceed for the next iteration of the policy. C. Selection of most important issues that we want to discuss during this session: - how to proceed from the interim policy ?!? - default /64 or /48 allocation size - do we want to have this space allocated from a special block, may be even block that is used by all RIRs for this purpose - what documentation is needed to get an allocation - is there any need to document allocations in the RIPE database, and if so, how ?!? - general wording of the policy D. Discussion of the issues Z. AOB ---

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1st Euro-IX General Meeting in Prague
by Serge Radovcic 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

Dear Euro-IX members, I would like to remind all members of the 1st Euro-IX General Meeting: Time: 17.30 - 20.00 (hopefully an earlier finishing time) Date: Monday the 1st of October 2001 Venue: Meeting Hall IV on the 2nd floor of the Prague Congress Centre (RIPE40) Location: Trida 5 Kvetna 65, Prague 4, Czech Republic (please look at www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/current/ripe-40/ for further details on the venue) There will also be a Euro-IX presentation at the EIX WG meeting on Tuesday afternoon, the exact time and location is still to be announced. As far as nominations go, the current Executive Board has so far received the following nominations: Arnold Nipper DE-CIX Germany Christian Panigl VIX Austria Fearghas McKay United Kingdom Jan Torreele BNIX Belgium Job Witteman AMS-IX The Netherlands John Souter LINX United Kingdom Valeria Rossi MIX Italy please submit additional nominations to board(a)euro-ix.net (Note: The newly elected board will need to convene shortly after the General Meeting to appoint the President, Treasurer and Secretary. This may be on Monday night or Tuesday morning, so if you are one of the nominees please keep these dates in mind!) The Agenda for the 1st General Meeting: 1. Opening - Agenda revue 2. Euro-IX status 3. Latest policies - Overview of minutes from the 1st Euro-IX Executive Meeting 4. Budget - 2001 - 2002 - Membership fees - Board member allowances 5. Election - Final call for nominees - Address to members by nominees - Election of new Euro-IX Board - Counting/announcement of votes 6. Web site overview 7. Suggestions for future plans (open discussion) 8. Presentation at EIX WG RIPE40 9. PoA and next General Meeting 10. Close Note: The General Meeting is for the members of Euro-IX but is open to all who are interested. However the voting will be strictly controlled to 1 vote per Euro-IX member. Hope to see you all in Prague, Serge Radovcic Euro-IX Secretariat info(a)euro-ix.net www.euro-ix.net

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The IX assignment Issue
by David Gethings 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Hi All, I know RIPE NCC has already published is policy on assigning IX's with IPv6 address space, so apologies for coming in late on this issue. I've recently came across RFC 2928 (Initial IPv6 Sub-TLA ID Assignments). The last paragraph of Section 3 of this informational RFC says: "The block of Sub-TLA IDs assigned to the IANA (i.e., 2001:0000::/29 - 2001:01F8::/29) is for assignment for testing and experimental usage to support activities such as the 6bone, and for new approaches like exchanges." Does the RIPE NCC policy follow this RFC? It was written in Sept 2000, and could be out of date. I'm just looking for clarification. Regards -- David Gethings Worldcom, Network Activation Engineer Internet House, 332 Science Park, Email: davidg(a)uk.uu.net Cambridge, CB4 0BZ, United Kingdom. Phone: +44 (0)1223 581515 http://www.uk.uu.net/

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draft agendas (v1) for IPv6/lir/eix joint sessions RIPE40
by David Kessens 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

Hi, Below follow the first drafts of the agendas for the joint sessions regarding ipv6 allocation policies. We have asked to schedule two seperate sessions, one for discussions regarding the new interim policy for exchange points, and one for discussions regarding the revision of the general allocation guidelines. We would like to limit discussion to the lir-wg maillist to minimize the amount of duplicate mails. Please let me know if you have any other topics that you want to have discussed and we will try to accomodate them in the agenda. Thanks, David K. --- Agenda for the IPv6/lir joint session RIPE40, Prague Topic: Revision of the general ipv6 allocation guidelines Materials to read: - ripe-196: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ipv6policy.html - http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/archive/ripe-39/presentations/ipv6develop… - http://www.djp.net/ipv6/proposal.html - http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/archive/ripe-39/presentations/RIPE39-IPv6… A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe - agenda bashing B. How to proceed for the next iteration of the policy. C. Status of the draft currently being discussed between the RIRs (Presentations from RIRs) D. Proposal for the next version of the policy http://www.djp.net/ipv6/proposal.html (Dave Pratt) E. Discussion Z. AOB ------------------------- Agenda for the IPv6/lir/eix joint session RIPE40, Prague Topic: Interim policy for allocation of ipv6 addresses for Internet Exchange Points A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe - agenda bashing B. How to proceed for the next iteration of the policy. C. Selection of most important issues that we want to discuss during this session: - how to proceed from the interim policy ?!? - default /64 or /48 allocation size - do we want to have this space allocated from a special block, may be even block that is used by all RIRs for this purpose - what documentation is needed to get an allocation - is there any need to document allocations in the RIPE database, and if so, how ?!? - general wording of the policy D. Discussion of the issues Z. AOB ---

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