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Call for Presentations & Draft Agenda v0.3
by Fearghas McKay 06 May '08

06 May '08

The main changes are a few more IXP updates including an overview of the South Asian IXP community from Guarab. This is a followup to his presentation in Istanbul a couple of years ago. The Euro-IX presentation is now in the afternoon slot. European Internet Exchange WG (EIX) Draft Agenda v0.3 When: Thursday, 8 May - 11:00-12:30 and Thursday, 8 May - 14:00-15:30 Where: Main Room http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-56/meeting-plan.html We will be video webcast & podcast. We are particularly interested in operational experiences of IPv6 that you might want to share, please get in touch with Cara or Fearghas if you have something you would like to present. A. Administrative Matters * Welcome * Finalise agenda * Approve minutes from RIPE 55 B. Select a Scribe C. IXP Updates AMS-IX DE-CIX + WORK-IX & ALP-IX EQIX INEX LINX LONAP NaMeX NDIX - Presentation of their new logo Netnod NIX.CZ NYIIX/LAIIX VIX Overview of South Asian IXPs If you want to present please drop me a note off list. PDF is the preferred presentation format. The presentation laptop will be running Windows, if you use a Mac and want to use Powerpoint with embedded Quicktime there will be a machine available that you can test your presentation with before the meeting. If you wish to present please send me email and upload your presentation to ROSIE before the meeting. D. Surprise Event - Watch this space! There are prizes, more offers of swag are still being accepted... Get your message out into the community! Afternoon session. E. Euro-IX Update F. 40/100GbE IEEE & Progress update - Greg Hankins G. Some IPv6 observations at AMS-IX - Arien Vijn AMS-IX share some bugs that are clearly vendor specific and related to IPv6. They also encountered an issue that required some (apparently not too clear) configuration changes for Cisco routers. H. Results of the Peering Configuration Survey Greg Hankins (Force10) Ren Provo (Comcast) Tom Scholl (AT&T What is it? - New survey on how people configure peering! - Featuring technical questions on what protocols and features are used - No questions on facilities, IXs, or policies How did it work? - The survey was here: http://tinyurl.com/3xoa6g (http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=hy_2bvVcxxszICLYRFzPAjMw_3d_3d) Example Questions: - Do you use IPv6 unicast BGP peering? - Do you use BFD? - Do you use four byte ASNs (RFC 4893)? - What is the largest frame size you use on peering links? - What is your biggest concern when deploying a new feature? - Note: is it OK to say that you don't know what a feature is What is the purpose of the survey? - Identify trends in feature and protocol deployment - Educate the community on features and best practices I. Doing the Reverse Time Warp - Mike Hughes Z. A.O.B.

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Call for Presentations & Draft Agenda v0.2
by Fearghas McKay 05 May '08

05 May '08

European Internet Exchange WG (EIX) Draft Agenda v0.2 When: Thursday, 8 May - 11:00-12:30 and Thursday, 8 May - 14:00-15:30 Where: Main Room http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-56/meeting-plan.html We will be video webcast & podcast. We are particularly interested in operational exeriences of IPv6 that you might want to share, please get in touch with Cara or Fearghas if you have something you would like to present. A. Administrative Matters * Welcome * Finalise agenda * Approve minutes from RIPE 55 B. Select a Scribe C. IXP Updates AMS-IX DECIX INEX LINX LoNAP NaMeX NDIX - Presentation of their new logo Netnod NIX.CZ NYIIX/LAIIX VIX If you want to present please drop me a note off list. PDF is the preferred presentation format. The presentation laptop will be running Windows, if you use a Mac and want to use Powerpoint with embedded Quicktime there will be a machine available that you can test your presentation with before the meeting. If you wish to present please send me email and upload your presentation to ROSIE before the meeting. D. Euro-IX Update E. Surprise Event - Watch this space! There are prizes, more offers of swag will be accepted... Afternoon session. F. 40/100GbE IEEEE & Progress update - Greg Hankins G. Some IPv6 observations at AMS-IX - Arien Vijn AMS-IX share some bugs that are clearly vendor specific and related to IPv6. They also encountered an issue that required some (apparently not too clear) configuration changes for Cisco routers. H. Results of the Peering Configuration Survey Greg Hankins (Force10) Ren Provo (Comcast) Tom Scholl (AT&T What is it? - New survey on how people configure peering! - Featuring technical questions on what protocols and features are used - No questions on facilities, IXs, or policies How did it work? - The survey was here: http://tinyurl.com/3xoa6g (http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx? sm=hy_2bvVcxxszICLYRFzPAjMw_3d_3d) Example Questions: - Do you use IPv6 unicast BGP peering? - Do you use BFD? - Do you use four byte ASNs (RFC 4893)? - What is the largest frame size you use on peering links? - What is your biggest concern when deploying a new feature? - Note: is it OK to say that you don't know what a feature is What is the purpose of the survey? - Identify trends in feature and protocol deployment - Educate the community on features and best practices I. Fun with NTP Servers - Mike Hughes Z. A.O.B.

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Call for Presentations & Draft Agenda
by Fearghas McKay 25 Apr '08

25 Apr '08

European Internet Exchange WG (EIX) Draft Agenda v0.1 When: Thursday, 8 May - 11:00-12:30 and Thursday, 8 May - 14:00-15:30 Where: Main Room http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-56/meeting-plan.html We will be video webcast & podcast. We are particularly interested in operational exeriences of IPv6 that you might want to share, please get in touch with Cara or Fearghas if you have something you would like to present. A. Administrative Matters * Welcome * Finalise agenda * Approve minutes from RIPE 55 B. Select a Scribe C. IXP Updates If you want to present please drop me a note off list. PDF is the preferred presentation format. The presentation laptop will be running Windows, if you use a Mac and want to use Powerpoint with embedded Quicktime there will be a machine available that you can test your presentation with before the meeting. If you wish to present pleae send me email and upload your presentation before the meeting. D. Euro-IX Update E. Surprise Event - Watch this space! There may be prizes, offers of swag will be accepted... Afternoon session. F. 40/100GbE IEEEE & Progress update - Greg Hankins G. Some IPv6 observations at AMS-IX - Arien Vijn AMS-IX share some bugs that are clearly vendor specific and related to IPv6. They also encountered an issue that required some (apparently not too clear) configuration changes for Cisco routers. H. Results of the Peering Configuration Survey Greg Hankins (Force10) Ren Provo (Comcast) Tom Scholl (AT&T What is it? - New survey on how people configure peering! - Featuring technical questions on what protocols and features are used - No questions on facilities, IXs, or policies How did it work? - The survey was here: http://tinyurl.com/3xoa6g (http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx? sm=hy_2bvVcxxszICLYRFzPAjMw_3d_3d) Example Questions: - Do you use IPv6 unicast BGP peering? - Do you use BFD? - Do you use four byte ASNs (RFC 4893)? - What is the largest frame size you use on peering links? - What is your biggest concern when deploying a new feature? - Note: is it OK to say that you don't know what a feature is What is the purpose of the survey? - Identify trends in feature and protocol deployment - Educate the community on features and best practices Z. A.O.B.

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Re: [Fwd: Updated Call for presentations EIX-WG at RIPE 55]
by RIPE NCC Webmaster 24 Oct '07

24 Oct '07

Hi there, RIPE Meeting <meeting(a)ripe.net> writes: * -------- Original Message -------- * European Internet Exchange (EIX) Current Agenda The EIX agenda has been updated on ripe.net and on Rosie : http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/agendas/eix.html http://rosie.ripe.net/agenda.php -- Alix

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Updated Call for presentations EIX-WG at RIPE 55
by Fearghas McKay 23 Oct '07

23 Oct '07

European Internet Exchange (EIX) Current Agenda When: Wednesday, 24 October - 14:00-15:30 and Thursday, 25 October - 11:00-12:30 Where: Grand Ballroom We will be video webcast & podcast. A. Administrative Matters * Welcome * Finalise agenda * Approve minutes from RIPE 54 B. Select a Scribe C. Selection of a new Co-Chair Christian Panigl is standing down as a Co-Chair, nominations or suggestions by email to either Mike Hughes [mike(a)linx.net] or myself are welcome. We now have several candidates so we will be holding an election hustings and vote in Thursday morning. If anyone else wishes to stand please let myself and Mike know asap, and before the Wednesday meeting. D. IXP Updates Please see http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/wgc-info.html for details on uploading presentations etc. PDF is the preferred format. The presentation laptop will be running Windows, if you use a Mac and want to use Powerpoint with embedded Quicktime there will be a machine available that you can test your presentation with before the meeting. If you wish to present pleae send me email and upload your presentation before the meeting. E. Euro-IX Update Thursday session. F. Items of Operational Interest for IXPs from NANOG - Mike Hughes G. Election Hustings & Questions via the Chair. Please send questions in advance to Mike & myself. H. Voting We will be using STV - Single Transferable Vote, if you wish to vote remotely please let Mike and myself know asap. Candidates will be announced at the first session of the WG. H. 40/100GbE IEEEE & Progress update - Greg Hankins I. Items for the RIPE NCC Action plan J. Announcement of Co-Chair Election Z. A.O.B.

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Call for presentations EIX-WG at RIPE 55
by Fearghas McKay 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

European Internet Exchange (EIX) Current Agenda When: Wednesday, 24 October - 14:00-15:30 and Thursday, 25 October - 11:00-12:30 Where: Grand Ballroom A. Administrative Matters * Welcome * Finalise agenda * Approve minutes from RIPE 54 B. Select a Scribe C. Selection of a new Co-Chair Christian Panigl is standing down as a Co-Chair, nominations or suggestions by email to either Mike Hughes [mike(a)linx.net] or myself are welcome. D. IXP Updates Please see http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/wgc-info.html for details on uploading presentations etc. PDF is the preferred format. The presentation laptop will be running Windows, if you use a Mac and want to use Powerpoint with embedded Quicktime there will be a machine available that you can test your presentation with before the meeting. E. Euro-IX Update F. Items of Operational Interest for IXPs Z. A.O.B.

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EIX WG - RIPE 54 - Call for Agenda Items
by Fearghas McKay 02 May '07

02 May '07

Hi We have a double slot on Wednesday 9th May 2007, 11-30-12.30 & 14:00-15:30 Current Agenda looks like this - a Agenda Bashing b Scribes c IEEE Higher Speed Study Group (HSSG) Progress Update Greg Hankins d IXP Updates e Euro-IX Update f Video Peering White Paper - Feedback Bill Norton g AOCB Additional items welcome, the running order may change depending on clashes with Address Policy that is running in parallel. Please let me know if you have a clash and are presenting. Cut off for IXP presentations is 18:00 Tuesday - please have presentations uploaded to ROSIE before the Plenary starts on Wednesday 9am. Thanks Fearghas

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RIPE 53 EIX-WG Draft Minutes
by Mike Hughes 13 Oct '06

13 Oct '06

Herewith the draft minutes for the EIX Working Group held at RIPE 53 for your perusal and approval. Thanks to Catherine for a comprehensive set of minutes, especially wrt Q&A sessions. Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Minutes ======= EIX Working Group Minutes - RIPE 53 Version 1.0 WG Chairs: Meeting chaired by Mike Hughes Scribe: Catherine Carr (RIPE NCC) Amsterdam, Thursday 5th October 2006, 11:00 - 12:45 -------------------------------------------------------- A. Administrative Matters - Working Group Chairs Fearghas McKay was unavailable, so the meeting was chaired by Mike Hughes. Catherine Carr (RIPE NCC) was nominated to scribe, and the jabber was monitored by Robert Kisteleki (RIPE NCC). The session was webcast in audio only. -------------------------------------------------------- B. Agenda Bashing - Working Group Chairs NAMEX withdrew their presentation for the IXP News Slot (agenda item Y). It was replaced with an update from NEDNOD. The NRO Numbers Council Election results were announced by Niall O'Reilly. 126 votes were cast. 1 was spoiled, so 125 valid votes. 3 voting slips were blank. 49 votes were in favour of Sabine Jaume 73 votes were in favour of Dave Wilson -------------------------------------------------------- C. Presentaion: IEEE >10G HSSG Report - Greg Hankins (Force10 Networks) http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-53/presentations/ieee_10g.pdf Mike Hughes commented that it was good news that people are now getting to work in this area, because it is something that a lot of people in this group need. Right now it is mostly people talking about the physical and optical layers. There are a lot of challenges ahead. Outreach and media are really important in order to end up with something usable. Attendees were encouraged to get involved. This would probably be easier through a vendor so that the requirements can be collated. However, if attendees do not have a vendor that they feel comfortable working with, they can always post their own opinions. User input is welcomed and appreciated. -------------------------------------------------------- D. Call for Input to the IXP Switch Wishlist v3.1 - Mike Hughes (LINX) Mike Hughes informed the group that there have been a few different types of switch (for example higher density switches) since the IXP Switch Wishlist came out. A new iteration of the document is required. The group were asked to review what is on the list at the moment and submit any ideas to Mike. Some ideas have already been documented, such as cable management and slot orientation. New drafts of the document will be posted to the working group mailing list, and it will hopefully be adopted at RIPE 54. -------------------------------------------------------- E. Presentation: sFlow Implementation at AMS-IX - Elisa Jasinska (AMS-IX) http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-53/presentations/sflow.pdf Simon Leinden (Switch) asked if the entire system is open source. Elisa Jasinska (AMS-IX) answered that just the perl module is open source at the moment, but she is planning on making the rest open source too. The demon around it is so integrated into the AMSIX environment to get the information about the members, so it cannot really be released like that. She will work on a way to split that into a separate module so that users can make their own database interfaces and so on. There was a question about whether AMS-IS had any issues with non liniarity of the graphs due to sampling errors. Elisa answered that you can not really correct that because it is statistics. The lower the IPv6 rate is the less samples there are, so the bigger the error in the end. Nick Hilliard (INet) asked if the software is compatible with data protection legislation in terms of sniffing IP addresses. Elisa explained that it is not decoding over layer 2. The datagram is providing the whole packet and it depends on how big the whole packet is. The maximum is 256 bytes depending on the packet header. The software does not decode all of that. It only looks at layer 2 and is not doing any analysis on layer 3 (such as ports, IP addresses, etc). It would be possible to integrate that, but there are no plans to do so. Nick went on to ask if there was a facility for members to opt out. Some exchange points do not want to divulge information about their peering agreements, and sometimes don't even want to have their names mentioned on websites. Elisa assured the group that there would be no mention of the members on the public website. Every member would see their graph in their own statistics. If they want to do something more with the information, such as adding it on their own public website, then that is their choice. There was a question yesterday in the IPv6 working group where someone wanted to know who was doing IPv6 traffic. AMS-IX do not know yet because the software doesn't tell them. But even if they did know, it is not information that they would give out. She also confirmed that no members who have asked to opt out. Avi Freedman (Akamai) asked if AMS-IX had a list of outstanding requests for Foundry for additional tags to go into sFlow. Elisa confirmed that they did not, because they have no problems with what is being provided. Avi went on to ask if enough tagging of source and dist interfaces had been seen and whether MAC pairs were being used. Elisa advised Foundry are supplying the packet header, and AMS-IX has the layer 2 information and MAC address. AMS-IX have a policy of one MAC address behind each member port, so that they can tell which member is which. Kurtis Lindqvist (NETNOD) referred to data protection law, and advised that if the data is logged then it must be kept because you may be asked to hand it out. Elisa answered that data which is decoded (such as mac addresses) is kept, as well as the graphs so that the members can see their information. The rest of the sFlow datagram is not decoded by the software so there is nothing to keep. Marco Sommani (CNR) asked for whether the perl module analyses the whole packet. Elisa answered no. There are perl modules which are analysing the whole stack of packet headers, but they are not being used. AMS-IX have implemented their own solution to analyse up to layer 2. -------------------------------------------------------- X. Euro-IX Report - Serge Radovcic (Euro-IX Secretariat) http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-53/presentations/euroix.pdf Dave Wilson (HEAnet) observed that HEAnet's traffic dips every year in the summer and picks up in autumn as if it had never left off. You can draw a line as if the dip wasn't there. Serge replied that it was still a big jump in traffic after the summer. Blake Willis (Neo Telecoms) added that in France they are seeing a large amount of the bigger carriers changing their policies on the exchange simply because there are so many free exchanges. Many people are getting AS Numbers now. They can't deal with requests from all of the smaller carriers. -------------------------------------------------------- Y. IXP News/Reports - AMS-IX Presentation not available. - NDIX Presentation not available. An attendee asked which vendor was being used for releasing CWDM on NDIX's 10Gb rings. Remco from NDIX confirmed they are using the same fibre for a couple of routes for both access and core infrastructure. Some of the access infrastructure is still on GbE. - DE-CIX Presentation not available. Max Tulyev (NetAssist LLC) was interested in multicast exchange, and asked if there was any at DE-CIX. Wolfgang Tremmel informed him that they are offering free multicast ports with 100Mb port speed. You just have to pay for the cabling to the switch. - VIX http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-53/presentations/vix.pdf - LINX http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-53/presentations/ixp_switch.pdf Gert Doering (Spacenet) asked if multicast will go into the same VLAN as unicast when it is moved onto the main Foundries. Mike Hughes answered that it will be in a separate VLAN. Some members have said they don't even want it on tagged ports because they don't want a multicast accident blowing all their unicast traffic up. - MIX http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-53/presentations/mix.pdf - NIX.CZ http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-53/presentations/eix-jc-czn.pdf - NETNOD Presentation not uploaded. -------------------------------------------------------- AOB: Mike Hughes will request a schedule change in the meeting plan at the WG chairs meeting. He will try to get the two hour block on Wednesday afternoon, because the 90 minute sessions regularly fill up these days. -------------------------------------------------------- END -- Mike Hughes Chief Technical Officer London Internet Exchange mike(a)linx.net http://www.linx.net/

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RIPE53 WG meeting - Note to Presenters
by Mike Hughes 05 Oct '06

05 Oct '06

Hi folks, Most of you probably know the drill these days, but just to make sure... Please upload your presentation using the Upload Facility - <http://rosie.ripe.net/uploads.html> This gets your slideware automagically transferred by the wonders of technology onto the laptop in the meeting room, and it means we don't have to clown around massaging laptop-projector relationships during the working group meeting itself. One final change since the agenda was issued, and that is Netnod are now presenting after NaMEX withdrew from the agenda. Cheers, Mike -- Mike Hughes Chief Technical Officer London Internet Exchange mike(a)linx.net http://www.linx.net/

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EIX-WG Final Agenda
by Mike Hughes 22 Sep '06

22 Sep '06

Hello all, Here is the final agenda for the EIX Working Group to be held at RIPE 53. If you add up the allocated times for the presentations, we're almost exactly on our alloted 90 minutes, and there's a chance we'll overrun slightly. It will, therefore, not be possible to take any further submissions (including "IXP Reports") on the day, to avoid excessively running over into the lunch break. One option, if people aren't entirely happy with this situation is that we try to arrange to switch to a longer (2 hour) slot on the Wednesday afternoon. Please let the EIX WG chairs know your thoughts on this area. Thanks, Mike 8<------------------------------------------------------------------------ RIPE 53 EIX-WG Agenda --------------------- Date & Time: Thursday 5th October, 11.00-12.30 A. Administrivia [1 min] Scribe Jabber Scribe Webcasting B. Agenda Bashing [2 mins] C. IEEE >10G HSSG Report - Greg Hankins, Force10 Networks [~20 mins] D. Call for Input, IXP Switch Wishlist v3.1 - Mike Hughes, LINX [<5 mins] E. sFlow implementation at AMS-IX - Elisa Jasinska, AMS-IX [~20 mins] X. Euro-IX Report - Serge Radovcic, Euro-IX Secretariat [10 mins] Y. IXP News/Reports [max 30 mins total so <5 minutes each] AMS-IX NDIX DE-CIX VIX LINX MIX NIX.CZ NAMEX Z. AOB 8<------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks, Mike -- Mike Hughes Chief Technical Officer London Internet Exchange mike(a)linx.net http://www.linx.net/

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