RE: [lir-wg] Important Informational Message - root.zone change
Please note that ftp.internic.net:/doamin/named.root Should read ftp.internic.net:/domain/named.root Not enough coffee today JC
-----Original Message----- From: lir-wg-admin@ripe.net [mailto:lir-wg-admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of John Crain Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 3:26 PM To: RIPE DNS WG; RIPE LIR WG Subject: [lir-wg] Important Informational Message - root.zone change
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*****PLEASE NOTE***** This is an important Informational Message to the internet community:
November 5, 2002, the IP address for J.root-servers.net will change in the authoritative NS set for "dot". The change will be reflected in zone serial # 2002110501.
The new set of servers authoritative for "dot" will be: A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 5w6d16h IN A 198.41.0.4 H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 5w6d16h IN A 128.63.2.53 C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 5w6d16h IN A 192.33.4.12 G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 5w6d16h IN A 192.112.36.4 F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 5w6d16h IN A 192.5.5.241 B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 5w6d16h IN A 128.9.0.107 J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 5w6d16h IN A 192.58.128.30 K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 5w6d16h IN A 193.0.14.129 L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 5w6d16h IN A 198.32.64.12 M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 5w6d16h IN A 202.12.27.33 I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 5w6d16h IN A 192.36.148.17 E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 5w6d16h IN A 192.203.230.10 D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 5w6d16h IN A 128.8.10.90
This WILL require a change to your root hints file. The new file will be available via anonymous ftp from rs.internic.net:/domain/named.root as well as ftp.internic.net:/doamin/named.root starting 11/5/02 1700UTC (12pm EST/9am PST).
Both the new and old j.root-servers.net IP space will provide answers in parallel for the foreseeable future.
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Also note that a hints file change is ***not required***. You can do that anytime within the next -say- 5 **years** or so. Your DNS will continue to work as long as there is at least one valid root server address in the hints file. Daniel
Your DNS will continue to work as long as there is at least one valid root server address in the hints file.
This is true as long as the old IP address is taken out of service, i.e. doesn't answer "." DNS queries at all or - as in this case - continues to serve the "right" NS RRSet. And, the ftp copy is not necessary, because "dig @${X}.root-servers.net. . ns" does the job (for $X in A .. M) - unless you trust the DNS less than you trust ftp - after the "root-servers.net" zone will have been updated. -Peter
% Also note that a hints file change is ***not required***. % You can do that anytime within the next -say- 5 **years** or so. % Your DNS will continue to work as long as there is at least % one valid root server address in the hints file. % % Daniel not required -now- but it will be, eventually. to clarify the last statement, "...at least one reachable, valid..." as long as this announced change is fresh in your minds, it might be useful to make the changes in you live systems, then be on the lookout for any new systems deployed in the next few years as it will nessasary to fix them as well (since they are already in the "channel" and will have stale data.) in general, this is not a make/break situation. there is no flag day. folks can even make the change before the "insertion" day and still be functional. -- --bill
Now that UltraDNS and others have been selected to run .ORG[Y]... http://www.ultradns.com/about/advisors.html Dr. Dave Farber Bill Manning http://www.arin.net/about_us/ab_org_bot.html Bill Manning http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space ================================= How is the .ORG[Y] $6 per domain per year divided between all of the various people ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Manning" <bmanning@ISI.EDU> To: "Daniel Karrenberg" <Daniel.Karrenberg@ripe.net> Cc: <crain@icann.org>; <dns-wg@ripe.net>; <lir-wg@ripe.net> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [lir-wg] Important Informational Message - root.zone change
% Also note that a hints file change is ***not required***. % You can do that anytime within the next -say- 5 **years** or so. % Your DNS will continue to work as long as there is at least % one valid root server address in the hints file. % % Daniel
not required -now- but it will be, eventually. to clarify the last statement, "...at least one reachable, valid..."
as long as this announced change is fresh in your minds, it might be useful to make the changes in you live systems, then be on the lookout for any new systems deployed in the next few years as it will nessasary to fix them as well (since they are already in the "channel" and will have stale data.)
in general, this is not a make/break situation. there is no flag day. folks can even make the change before the "insertion" day and still be functional.
-- --bill
This is of course true, but it doesn't mean you should wait 5 years. Not updating you hints is not going to cause you any grief but it is good practice to keep it up to date when it changes. JC
-----Original Message----- From: lir-wg-admin@ripe.net [mailto:lir-wg-admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Karrenberg Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:33 PM To: John Crain Cc: 'RIPE DNS WG'; 'RIPE LIR WG' Subject: RE: [lir-wg] Important Informational Message - root.zone change
Also note that a hints file change is ***not required***. You can do that anytime within the next -say- 5 **years** or so. Your DNS will continue to work as long as there is at least one valid root server address in the hints file.
Daniel
Modern DNS software does all that automatically. People do not have to touch it. Manual operations are expensive, prone to error and require humans to fly around in meat space explaining how things do not work. It is better to build a NetWork. Jim Fleming 128-bit DNS is closer than you think... COM...DE...NET...ORG...INFO...BIZ...US http://ipv8.dyndns.tv http://ipv8.dyns.cx http://ipv8.no-ip.com http://ipv8.no-ip.biz http://ipv8.no-ip.info http://ipv8.myip.us http://ipv8.dyn.ee http://ipv8.community.net.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Crain" <crain@icann.org> To: "'Daniel Karrenberg'" <Daniel.Karrenberg@ripe.net> Cc: "'RIPE DNS WG'" <dns-wg@ripe.net>; "'RIPE LIR WG'" <lir-wg@ripe.net> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:41 AM Subject: RE: [lir-wg] Important Informational Message - root.zone change This is of course true, but it doesn't mean you should wait 5 years. Not updating you hints is not going to cause you any grief but it is good practice to keep it up to date when it changes. JC
-----Original Message----- From: lir-wg-admin@ripe.net [mailto:lir-wg-admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Karrenberg Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:33 PM To: John Crain Cc: 'RIPE DNS WG'; 'RIPE LIR WG' Subject: RE: [lir-wg] Important Informational Message - root.zone change
Also note that a hints file change is ***not required***. You can do that anytime within the next -say- 5 **years** or so. Your DNS will continue to work as long as there is at least one valid root server address in the hints file.
Daniel
Would be also nice to have proper reverse resolving for J's new IP address (192.58.128.30). So far 198.41.0.10 still resolves to j.root-servers.net, while the new address doesn't resolve into anything: ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @depot.nstld.com 30.128.58.192.in-addr.arpa ANY ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 4 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; 30.128.58.192.in-addr.arpa, type = ANY, class = IN ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: 128.58.192.in-addr.arpa. 1D IN SOA DEPOT.NSTLD.COM. nstld.verisign-grs.COM. ( 2002041800 ; serial 1H ; refresh 15M ; retry 2W ; expiry 1D ) ; minimum ;; Total query time: 87 msec ;; FROM: balder to SERVER: depot.nstld.com 198.41.3.109 ;; WHEN: Wed Nov 6 17:09:20 2002 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 44 rcvd: 114
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Berislav Todorovic
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Jim Fleming
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John Crain
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