* Paul Vixie:

Florian Weimer wrote: ...

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Or you can avoid fragmentation in the first place, ...

so, just always use tcp if you're expecting more than 1200 octets?

Sure, unless it's a special dedicated network etc.

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Theoretically, even with a 1200-byte EDNS buffer size, ...

but, there are useful answers larger than that.

A lot of those answers are artificially inflated with data that clients cannot use anyway.

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Another benefit of this change is that many of the ENDS-related problems go away.

i'd rather we broke everything that won't let edns through. the internet can't grow in avoidance-mode. we have to confront, too.

It's not clear to moe at all what value larger packets provide. You may avoid the occasional TCP transaction. But then there are weird corner cases, such as the difficulty of serving UDP over IPv6 in a stateless fashion, while still supporting fragmentation.