Dear Piet! Direct 'whois' access to that information is and stays useful, because not *everything* is in DNS; it can't even be without overloading [cache/memory] of nameservers and hosts all over the Internet. The current RIPE 'whois' access however is well-established, which is why I've suggested to drop all Domain objects except for a special one ("*td") for the top level domains, which would then contain an attribute ("*ws") pointing to the whois server for that top level domain. RIPE's whois server can than act as a "forwarder" for requests for Unfortunately I didn't find the spare cycles to dive into the rwhois project info, but I think there could be some hidden synergy. Do you have any ideas on this aspect? Thanks, Wilfried. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber@CC.UniVie.ac.at Computer Center - ACOnet : Vienna University : Tel: +43 1 4065822 355 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4065822 170 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : NIC: WW144 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Unfortunately I didn't find the spare cycles to dive into the rwhois project info, but I think there could be some hidden synergy. Do you have any ideas on this aspect? Well, actually it's quite trivial: - What the RIPE NCC has to do is to implement a new "Topdomain" object, with absolutely minimal information in the database: *td: nl *de: Top level domain for the Netherlands *ws: <server_name>.nl *mb: <either NL-DOMREG or RIPE-NCC> *so: RIPE where the presence of *td would signal to the whois server software that queries for both NL and <domain>.NL must be forwarded to the whois server specified in the *ws attribute. - A top level domain registry has 2 options then: 1) If it can't provide reliable whois service itself (yet): stick to the current situation, feeding the RIPE database with domain objects. Not ideal, since the Domain object in the RIPE database really should disappear, and I'm not the only one who thinks about it that way. 2) Provide its own whois service. This service would be accessible directly or indirectly via 'whois -h whois.ripe.net <domain>'. This whois service should preferably run on the same host that is the primary nameserver for the top level domain, although of course this is not mandatory. The NL whois server is almost finished. In fact it's just a shell script. And of course, once it's finished and works well, I'm willing to give it to other TLD registrars. The script will include notifying the registrar in case of discrepancies between the administration and the zone file, from both of which the script will take its information. Piet
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Piet Beertema
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Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet