Re: A proposal about hostcount and DNS
What we might want to think about is *if* it is useful to come up with some recommendations (RIPE-Document? BCP?) as to the *access* to that ionformation from the sites in the network which perform the tree walk. E.g. things like refusing zone transfers, address filters, and the like. I don't think it's up to RIPE or any other outsider to make any recommendations for a company's or institute's policy regarding access to its nameservers (other than the normal access needed to make the service work for purpose it's meant for). Good point, Piet! When and if there is a need for such activities, I'd propose to leave that to commercial entities. In that case it is extremely likely that the number of sites that close their nameservers for zone transfers will grow immensely. Probably. But then it might be deemed useful to still allow access to the "RIPE Approved" sites doing the walk, and when there is a published document which describes the AUP for the data obtained? Wilfried.
When and if there is a need for such activities, I'd propose to leave that to commercial entities. In that case it is extremely likely that the number of sites that close their nameservers for zone transfers will grow immensely. Probably. No, Wilfried: *extremely likely*. People are getting sick and tired of spamming and such and the idea of a commercial company "scanning" their nameservers (i.e. implying possible commercial abuse and even more spamming) would most certainly lead to massive blocking of zone transfers. But then it might be deemed useful to still allow access to the "RIPE Approved" sites doing the walk, and when there is a published document which describes the AUP for the data obtained? As soon as it would become clear that commercial companies would to the work, no AUP would help to overcome the fear for commercial abuse and (more) spamming. Piet
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Piet Beertema
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Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet