Having played Devil's advocate with my question a bit, Stephane's and Nils' assessments strongly cover my suspicion by a full 100%. I still wonder when the compulsory use of this DNS resolution service will consequently start for EU citizens eventually... On 10.11.2021 16:08, Carsten Schiefner wrote:
On 10.11.2021 15:58, Ulrich Wisser via dns-wg wrote:
Well, the general idea is that the resolver provides a reliable service that strictly follows GDPR. Current large open resolvers fall under the US Cloud Act with no privacy for non US citizens.
DNS4EU is intended to provide DNS filtering of malware and pishing. But with the intention of actually having thread feeds that carry threads in languages other than English.
Are we sure that 'it' (definition...) will stop at "malware and pishing"?
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU? Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:21:33 +0100 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Organization: NIC France To: Carsten Schiefner <ripe-wgs.cs@schiefner.de> CC: dns-wg@ripe.net On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 04:08:20PM +0100, Carsten Schiefner <ripe-wgs.cs@schiefner.de> wrote a message of 7 lines which said:
Are we sure that 'it' (definition...) will stop at "malware and pishing"?
We can be reasonably sure it will not. If it is actually used, we can expect IP (not Internet Protocol) lawyers asking for a censorship of sci-hub.se and politicians asking for censorship of [current political issue in their country]. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU? Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:21:59 +0100 From: Nils Wisiol <nils@desec.io> To: Carsten Schiefner <ripe-wgs.cs@schiefner.de>, Ulrich Wisser <ulrich@wisser.se> CC: dns-wg@ripe.net On Wed, 2021-11-10 at 16:08 +0100, Carsten Schiefner wrote:
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Are we sure that 'it' (definition...) will stop at "malware and pishing"?
Certainly not, as illustrated with Quad9 vs Sony Music [1]. While they are not EU, but Switzerland-based, this is afaik the closest operational approximation to what DNS4EU goals are. [1] https://www.quad9.net/news/blog/quad9-and-sony-music-german-injunction-statu...