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RE: SLD starting with digit (or containing only digits)
by zsako＠banknet.net 10 Oct '97

10 Oct '97

> From woeber(a)cc.univie.ac.at Fri Oct 10 13:51:53 1997 Thanks to all who answered me. I am still confused, because the RFCs seem to be somewhat in contradiction with each other. The RFC1912 says: (Labels were initially restricted in [RFC 1035] to start with a letter, and some older hosts still reportedly have problems with the relaxation in [RFC 1123].) Note there are some Internet hostnames which violate this rule (411.org, 1776.com) On the other hand RFC1123 says: If a dotted-decimal number can be entered without such identifying delimiters, then a full syntactic check must be made, because a segment of a host domain name is now allowed to begin with a digit and could legally be entirely numeric (see Section 6.1.2.4). However, a valid host name can never have the dotted-decimal form #.#.#.#, since at least the highest-level component label will be alphabetic. This is in my view in contradiction with the last sentence quoted by me from RFC1912... [ More than that, RFC2181, which obsolates RFC1123, basically says that the DNS should be able to handle any binary string as a domain name (with the length limitations that apply). However, it emphasizes that the applications may impose restrictions on this... I am curious when will *.com be registered? :)) ] Janos

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RE: SLD starting with digit (or containing only digits)
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 10 Oct '97

10 Oct '97

Hi Janos! >I would be grateful if someone could tell me what problems could arise >by permitting domain names starting with a digit, or even containing >*only* digits, under a TLD. You might want to refer to RFC1912: Common DNS Operational and Configuration Errors and pages 2, 3 in particular. Wilfried.

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SLD starting with digit (or containing only digits)
by zsako＠banknet.net 10 Oct '97

10 Oct '97

Dear all, I would be grateful if someone could tell me what problems could arise by permitting domain names starting with a digit, or even containing *only* digits, under a TLD. I know this is not in accordance with RFC952. My question really is what technical problems could be expected if a TLD were to decide that it allows the above (and currently the required domain name length is only two characters). Thank you for any help on this. Janos Zsako

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minutes from RIPE-27 (Dublin, May 97!) DNS WG session
by Ruediger Volk 28 Sep '97

28 Sep '97

Dear WG members, please find below the minutes with all change requests (all typos) received during RIPE-28 in Amsterdam worked in. This will be considered final after a week comment period (deadline Sunday, October 12th). Ruediger Volk (Draft) Minutes of DNS Working Group Working Group meeting Chair: Ruediger Volk RIPE-27 Wed May 22 1997 1. Adminstrativa scribe: Wilhelm Buehler, de.xlink action items: no open ones minutes of last meeting: no problems reported 2. Reports 2 a) root-server K.root-servers.NET (Carol Orange) - the new root-server is up since last friday (May 16th) - operated by the RIPE-NCC with 24/7 service (RFC 2010) - runs on two industrial PC running BSDI-Unix with a hotswap-disc - only for "."-Zone 2 b ) DNS-Database Referal (Carol Orange and Wilfried Woeber) Aim: User can find authoritative data about domains, without knowing, where it is. Administrators don't have to store the data in multiple databases. new attribute in domain-object : refer: <type> <host> <port> (where type is the style of whois, like RIPE, InterNIC) This looks like a URL, but whois is not a registered protocoll for URL. Carol: "We should register it" How to handle the request forwarding? a) query server with original searchkey; forward response b) return object with referral data (as now) c) send query to server with address of sender to a: + only change to RIPE server - doesn't scale to b: + will scale - significant time to get it working => start with option a) => develop referral aware clients => support a) and b) until server load gets too high The whois-server (RIPE) is performing function + client is using it, determines whehter (a) or (b). - If a adminstrator doesn't want this, put the information in a 'remarks:', not a 'refer:'-line Problem mentioned: - recursive referrals (if other servers offer this too) Action: look on scalability 2 c) NCC In-addr-Tool (Carol Orange alias Maldwyn Morris) Credits: - prev. version: David Kessens - modification done by Maldwyn Morris Reverse delegation is now mostly automated. - checks IP-address, SOA, NS, Zone-data - reachability of servers, UDP-checksum used - comparing with RIPE-Database - ns.ripe.net is requiered fo /16 it's forbidden for /24 - includes assignment-window-check - human hostmaster only approves the request at the end => Improves turn-a-round-time, prevents human errors, scalabilty running since May 6th, in a couple of weeks on the ftp-site (in source) Feature with Keyword 'TEST': all tests will be done, but the request will not be preceeded by RIPE-NCC 2 d) BIND ( Francis Dupont, INRIA) new version 4.95 patch 2 named 8.1 has new configuration file syntax incl. notify-feature (=> SOA requirement out of date?) 2 e) IETF DNSIND WG (no report from Memphis directly) ongoing and going fine - cidr-delegation internet draft (best-current-practice) - dynamic update - security - clarification 3) Activities for the WG - Review recommendations (SOA requirement) - Target of the WG ?

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25 Sep '97

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29 Jul '97

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Update on gTLD Registrar Application Process
by Robert Shaw 18 Jul '97

18 Jul '97

Hi, There has been an update on the http://www.gtld-mou.org site. As always, for latest news, click on "Latest News" Of specific interest: 1. There is a near-final draft of the "Application Form to Qualify to sign the CORE-MoU Submitted to the Internet Council of Registrars (CORE)" which is available from http://www.gtld-mou.org/docs/apply.htm The application process for applying to become a new gTLD Registrar under the aegis of the gTLD-MoU framework is not yet open. However, the target release date for the final application form is within the next week after which the current application form foresees approximately a 90 day application period (replacing the previously planned 60 day period). Also new is that the application form foresees that CORE will begin "start-up" activities 30 days after the beginning of acceptance of applications. In order to act as a gTLD registrar, the draft application process foresees the following steps: (i) Submit a completed application form and application fee within the application period; (ii) Have the application be deemed acceptable; (iii) After the application has been deemed acceptable, sign the CORE-MoU, and thereby become a member of CORE; (iv) Conform to the operational and technical requirements determined by CORE for registrars; (v) Begin registration activities. After the commencement of registration activities by CORE, only Registrars may remain members of CORE. Registrars, and only Registrars, shall participate in the on-going activities of CORE. Potential gTLD Registrar applicants are encouraged to carefully read the application form. The application form makes reference to the DNS Walk program. The version on the http://www.gtld-mou.org site will be updated with a more robust version before the application process starts. The application form also makes reference to the CORE-MoU. The version on the http://www.gtld-mou.org site will be updated before the application process starts. Robert -- Robert Shaw (shaw(a)itu.int) Advisor, Global Information Infrastructure International Telecommunication Union (http://www.itu.int) Place des Nations, 1211 Geneva 20, Switzerland

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18 Jul '97

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PAB Re: Update on gTLD Registrar Application Process -Reply
by kconnolly＠evw.com 15 Jul '97

15 Jul '97

Bob Helfant wrote: >>> "bhelfant(a)globecomm.net" 07/15/97 12:21pm >>> Can I assume that between the posting that are considering a 60 or 90 day processing period and this email, you have received overwhelming support for the 90 day period. I didn't see much of it on this list so I can assume that everyone reponded privately. {snip} Online, it's sometimes impossible to tell for sure where the naivete ends and the sarcasm begins. However, we know all too well that the apathy that pervades this list pretty well precludes "overwhelming support" for anything, so it seems safe to conclude that Bob's remarks are sarcastic. I know that there has from time to time been a lack of civility on this list. Lord knows, I have on occasion contributed to that lack. But I am also all too well aware that nothing deters participation in online discussions more conclusively than incivility. The fact that I would just as lief put Jay Fenello's tuchas in the hoosegow does not change the fact that I would enjoy doing so _politely_. So . . . please take this note as a reminder that if we're sincere about striving for the widest possible participation in PAB activities, we should refrain from engaging in sarcasm, character assassination (of PAB Members <seg>) and other unpleasantness. Sincerely, Kevin J. Connolly

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