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Agenda for DNS-wg at RIPE 46, version 3
by Patrik Fältström 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

Third version of the agenda. The reason why it has not ended up on the RIPE website is that I have all the time bcc:ed the correct address at RIPE NCC secretariat when I post this agenda to this address, and that doesn't work apparently. Mea culpa. Sorry. Exact division of agenda items on the different slots will happen shortly. Things which very late in the process still have "unknown" on them will be removed. Keep on sending me requests! FYI: I will not arrive to Amsterdam before late Wed evening, so my dear co-chairs will take care of sessions before that point in time. regards, paf Agenda at RIPE 46 ----------------- [0] Charter / Agenda Bashing / Goals etc Leader of the discussion: Jim Reid Help from co-chairs: Peter Koch and Jaap Akkerhuis. 0.1 Agenda 0.2 Charter 0.3 What are we doing here anyway? [1] Topics with deliverables 1.1 Quality of the DNS Topic-Leader: Unknown 1.1.1 Background, deliverables, participants etc 1.1.1.1 Who will lead this topic? 1.1.1.2 Deliverables 1.2.1 Tools 1.2.1.1 DomainSentinel John Brown <role(a)chagres.net> [2] Reports / status items (same bullets every meeting) (approx 5 min each) 2.1 Monitoring 2.1.1 RIPE NCC DNS Monitoring Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg(a)ripe.net> 2.2 DNS in the IETF 2.2.1 DNSEXT Lars-Johan Liman <liman(a)autonomica.se> 2.2.2 DNSOP Lars-Johan Liman <liman(a)autonomica.se> 2.2.3 Other wg's which touch DNS 2.2.3.1 IPSECKEY Unknown 2.2.3.2 SSHFP Jakob Schlyter <jakob(a)rfc.se> 2.2.3.3 ENUM Patrik Faltstrom <paf(a)cisco.com> (depending on what day it will be) 2.2.3.4 PROVREG Jaap Akkerhuis <jaap(a)sidn.nl> 2.3 EPP deployment / experience / status Unknown 2.4 Root servers 2.4.2 B-Root Bill Manning <bmanning(a)ISI.EDU> 2.4.2 F-Root Joao Damas <joao(a)isc.org> 2.4.3 I-Root Lars-Johan Liman <liman(a)autonomica.se> 2.5 IDN deployment / experience 2.5.1 Experience in Poland (15-30 minutes) Andrzej Bartosiewicz <andrzejb(a)nask.pl> 2.6 DNSSEC deployment / experience 2.6.1 DNSSEC status Sam Weiler <weiler(a)tislabs.com> 2.7 Anycast deployment / experience 2.7.1 Dave Knight 2.7 CENTR Technical committee Unknown 2.8 DNS Software (I accept info from _anyone_ here, not only ISC things) 2.8.1 Bind (maybe) Joao Damas <joao(a)isc.org> 2.8.2 OpenReg (maybe) Joao Damas <joao(a)isc.org> 2.8.3 NSD (they are asked, but have not said "ok" yet) Erik Rozendaal <erik(a)NLnetLabs.nl> Alexis Yushin <alexis(a)NLnetLabs.nl> 2.9 IPv6 deployment / experience 2.9.1 Adding IPv6 glue to the root zone Ronald van der Pol [3] Special invited (longer) presentation (30 min) 3.1 RIPE NCC DNS Monitoring Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg(a)ripe.net> [4] Temporary items (approximately 15 min each) 4.1 Use of DNS for SPAM prevention Note: This is not to be a spam discussion, but more a heads-up on the various mechanisms which exists and are discussed for example in the anti-spam research group in the IETF. Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. <amitchell(a)habeas.com> 4.2 The status of the rs.net testbed: CN & JP tlds registered punycode entries KeyMgmt issues w/ persistant DNSSEC testbeds Precursors for IPv6 tlds & glue in the root zone

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Agenda DNS wg at RIPE 46
by Patrik Fältström 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

This is the first suggested agenda. Note that this include: - A skeleton built from the proposed charter of the wg, which you might not agree with. If the charter change, of course also the agenda is to be changed. - Bullets which doesn't have any speakers (yet). I want *YOU* to agree on saying something. Or, even better, nominate your friend/enemy instead of taking up the glove yourself!!! :-) - No time for each agenda item yet. It is unclear how to divide the three 90 minute slots we have between all DN* groups which we might merge Agenda at RIPE 46 ----------------- [0] Charter / Agenda Bashing / Goals etc Leader of the discussion: Patrik Fältström Help from co-chairs: Jim Reid, Peter Koch and Jaap Akkerhuis. 0.1 Agenda 0.2 Charter 0.3 What are we doing here anyway? [1] Topics with deliverables 1.1 Quality of the DNS Leader of the discussion: Unknown [2] Reports / status items (same bullets every meeting) (max 5 min each) 2.1 Monitoring 2.1.1 RIPE NCC DNS Monitoring Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg(a)ripe.net> 2.2 DNS in the IETF 2.2.1 DNSEXT Unknown 2.2.2 DNSOP Unknown 2.2.3 Other wg's which touch DNS Unknown 2.3 EPP deployment / experience / status Edward Lewis <edlewis(a)arin.net> Suggested reading: http://www.read of ipe.net/ripe/mail-archives/dns-wg/2003/msg00122.html 2.4 Root servers Unknown 2.5 IDN deployment / experience Unknown 2.6 DNSSEC deployment / experience Unknown 2.7 Anycast deployment / experience 2.7.1 Dave Knight 2.7 CENTR Technical committee Unknown 2.8 DNS Software 2.8.1 Bind Unknown 2.8.2 OpenReg Unknown 2.9 IPv6 deployment / experience Unknown [3] Special invited (longer) presentation (30 min) 3.1 RIPE NCC DNS Monitoring Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg(a)ripe.net> [4] Temporary items (15 min each) 4.1 Use of DNS for SPAM prevention Note: This is not to be a spam discussion, but more a heads-up on the various mechanisms which exists and are discussed for example in the anti-spam research group in the IETF. Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. <amitchell(a)habeas.com>

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Alberto Jimenez De Leon/INFR/TESA está ausente de la oficina.
by alberto.jimenezdeleon＠telefonica.es 14 Aug '03

14 Aug '03

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Proposal: Charter for DN* wg at RIPE
by Patrik Fältström 13 Aug '03

13 Aug '03

Note: I want _LOTS_ of comments on the following. You will see after this a message about the agenda of the meeting at RIPE 46. Idea: Create a list of "topics" which are divided in two groups: [1] Topics which are larger discussion items. Each one will have one or more deliverables. There is a small group of people responsible for deliverables and they report back every DN* meeting. [2] Organisations and groups (inside and outside of RIPE and RIPE NCC) which report to the DNS wg what is happening, what is currently discussed etc. This is summarized at every RIPE meeting as a compiled report to the RIPE DNS wg participants so they know what is happening in the world The agenda at the RIPE meeting then consists of these two PLUS two other categories: [3] Invited longer talks [4] Short reports from groups which do not come back every meeting The result from [3] and [4] is only included in the minutes of the RIPE meeting. Nothing more, nothing less. Is that ok? Given this is ok, the question is then what to include under each one of the bullets. This is (as you will see on the proposed agenda) what I want to have discussed at the RIPE meeting. Below you can see _MY_PERSONAL_ idea. Probably many things forgotten, possibly many things wrong. Please correct. Let me know you are interested in spending some CPU cycles. Small things which will make the future more organized is that my goal is to keep exactly the same "item numbers" for every item, and never changing them over the years. That means the only topic I have got suggestions on (see below) is 1.1. Next will be 1.2. Etc. paf Charter for the DN* wg at RIPE (to be updated at each RIPE meeting) ------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Topics with deliverables 1.1 Quality of the DNS We have a few contributors here: + domainSentinel tool for lame checking Chagres Role Account <role(a)chagres.net> + RIPE NCC DNS Monitoring Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg(a)ripe.net> + DNSCHECK for verification of delegations Patrik Fältström <paf(a)cisco.com> Deliverables: 1.1.1 Recommendations for measures DNS serv*ice* quality 1.1.2 Recommendations how to summarise the results for consumption by the non-technical public 1.1.3 What is an "error"? 1.1.3.1 "Lame" 1.1.3.2 "Wrong glue" 1.1.3.3 "Non-authoritative response" 1.1.3.4 "Transport over TCP" 1.1.3.5 ... 1.1.4 What is good practice regarding measurement? 1.1.5 ... [2] Reports / status items 2.1 Monitoring 2.1.1 RIPE NCC DNS Monitoring Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg(a)ripe.net> 2.2 DNS in the IETF 2.2.1 DNSEXT 2.2.2 DNSOP 2.2.3 Other wg's which touch DNS 2.3 EPP deployment / experience / status Edward Lewis <edlewis(a)arin.net> 2.4 Root servers 2.5 IDN deployment / experience 2.6 DNSSEC deployment / experience 2.7 Anycast deployment / experience 2.7.1 Dave Knight 2.7.2 I-Root (Lars-Johan Liman) 2.7 CENTR Technical committee 2.8 DNS Software 2.8.1 Bind 2.8.2 OpenReg 2.8.3 ... 2.9 IPv6 deployment / experience Unknown

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Looking for a tool to find the fastest DNS server
by Stephane Bortzmeyer 04 Aug '03

04 Aug '03

I'm looking for a small tool (running on Unix) that can take a list of DNS servers, a query to ask (such as "A ns1.nic.fr.") and which can print the fastest server to reply. Something like "netselect" which only exercices the kernel, not the actual servers, unfortunately (and which can be blocked by filters): ~ % netselect {a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m}.root-servers.net 123 i.root-servers.net BIND9's lib/dns/resolver.c has code to do so and I wonder if someone extracted it in a simple tool?

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