April 1998 - dns-wg - mailman.ripe.net

Re:
by Hostmaster DE-NIC 24 Apr '98

24 Apr '98

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is a automatic response. The DENIC at the university of Karlsruhe is responsible for the central nameserver for the topleveldomain DE. For the delegation of a DE-domain you have to contact a Internet Service Provider (ISP), who is a member of the DENIC Genossenschaft or the DENIC office. A complete list of ISP's in DENIC Genossenschaft (DENIC-eG) you find under http://www.denic.de/Denic/mitglieder.html For reaching the DENIC office please contact DENIC Wiesenhuettenplatz 26 D-60329 Frankfurt Tel: 0190 87 4441 (3,60 DM/min) Fax: 0190 87 4442 (3,60 DM/min) eMail: Recht(a)denic.de eMail: inkasso(a)denic.de http://www.denic.de If you are an ISP you could think about becoming a member of the DENIC-eG. For a membership please contact the DENIC office. More details about domain registration you find under: http://www.nic.de/denicneu.html RICHTLINIE ZUR VERGABE VON DEUTSCHEN INTERNET-DOMAIN's Kind regards DE-NIC (Automatical Departement) -- _0_ "Hostmaster of the day" eMail: hostmaster(a)nic.de / \ RZ<-- Rechenzentrum/DE-NIC \_______/ Universitaet Karlsruhe Tel: 0190 874446 (3,60 DM/min) / / | \ \ Postfach 6980 Fax: 0190 874447 (3,60 DM/min) _/_/__|__\_\_ D-76128 Karlsruhe > Return-Path: <owner-dns-wg(a)ripe.net> > Delivery-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:02:39 +0200 > Received: from nicserv2.nic.de (actually nicserv2) by nicserv1 with SMTP (PP); > Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:02:35 +0200 > Received: from postman.ripe.net by nicserv2 with SMTP (PP); > Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:00:39 +0200 > Received: (qmail 17421 invoked by alias); 23 Apr 1998 14:58:24 -0000 > Delivered-To: lists-dns-wg-out(a)lists.ripe.net > Received: (qmail 17418 invoked by uid 66); 23 Apr 1998 14:58:23 -0000 > Message-Id: <91E08F187F0AD1118B4D0060972A6AD11B61BD@DELTA> > From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Rovn=FD_Daniel?= <Daniel.Rovny(a)nova-tv.cz> > To: dns-wg(a)ripe.net > Subject: > Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:55:17 +0200 > X-Priority: 3 > X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) > Sender: owner-dns-wg(a)ripe.net > Precedence: bulk > MIME-version: 1.0 > Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" > Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > > [The following text is in the "iso-8859-2" character set] > [Your display is set for the "iso-8859-1" character set] > [Some characters may be displayed incorrectly] > > Ja nevim jak vy ale ja mam problem s DNS serverem MS je tu nekdo kdo > poradi ??? > > Daniel Rovn} > tel.: 02/21100437 > mobil: 0602 32 16 76 > e-mail: Daniel.Rovny(a)nova-tv.cz > sms mobil: 321676(a)sms.eurotel.cz > >

1 0

Boletín de los Nombres de Dominio, nº 2
by Javier A. Maestre 23 Apr '98

23 Apr '98

n: 2 El Boletmn de los Nombres de Dominio (libre distribucisn) (21 de abril de 1.998) ) Javier A. Maestre, 1998 http://www.purplesys.es/users/dibu/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Si desea suscribirse, gratuitamente, a este boletmn para recibirlo por correo electrsnico, envme un mensaje indicandolo dibu(a)icam.es LA NUEVA GESTION DE LOS NOMBRES DE DOMINIO * Ira Magaziner considera que en un par de semanas (6/4/98) tendra preparado un nuevo documento sobre la gestisn de los nombres de dominio. El contrato con la NSI finaliza en Septiembre de este aqo 1.998. Los nuevos dominios del MoU deberman haber entrado ya en vigor, pero, segzn parece, el plazo del contrato con la NSI se agotara, y es difmcil considerar que antes del verano esti en marcha el nuevo sistema. En el artmculo enlazado se da cuenta del anuncio de Ira Magaziner http://www.domainz.net.nz/newsstand/dnsnewz.html * En la revista WIRED, se efectza una pequeqa valoracisn de las respuestas al Green paper. http://www.wired.com/news/news/business/story/11439.html * En la seccisn documentacisn de la Web se ha incluido un enlace a la declaracisn ministerial de la Conferencia de Bonn (6-8 de julio de 1.997), EN ESPAQOL, que se encuentra dentro las paginas que a continuacisn se comentan. La direccisn concreta de la declaracisn en espaqol es: http://www2.echo.lu/bonn/finales.html Recordemos, que, probablemente, la primera manifestacisn oficial de los srganos comunitarios en torno a los Nombres de Dominio, sea la Iniciativa Europea sobre el Comercio Electrsnico [COM (97) 157], que dedica a los Nombres de Dominio el parrafo 54, y que se puede bajar de la Red, en numerosos idiomas, en la direccisn: http://www.cordis.lu/esprit/src/ecomcom.htm RECURSOS LEGALES * La Comisisn Europea cuenta con un "Legal Advisory Board" que ha desarrollado una interesante pagina Web con abundante documentacisn. La direccisn de esta sede Web es: http://www2.echo.lu/legal/en/labhome.html Entre las diferentes secciones que la integran, merecen ser destacadas las siguientes: - Documentos legales relacionados con internet en espaqol y elaborados por la Unisn Europea, en la direccisn: http://www2.echo.lu/legal/es/browses.html - En la misma sede web, hay un apartado relativo a noticias referentes a propiedad intelectual e industrial en internet, donde se da cuenta de la primera resolucisn judicial espaqola relativa a nombres de dominio, y que es objeto de comentario y transcripcisn en esta sede web (seccisn documentacisn). La direccisn de este apartado de la Web del "Legal Advisory Board" es: http://www2.echo.lu/legal/en/ipr/ipr.html * Aunque no sea, estrictamente, un recurso legal, considero muy interesante la direccisn de alldomains, puesto que ofrece informacisn muy ztil sobre los diferentes organismos registradores de dominios de todo el mundo. La direccisn de esta interesante pagina, que queda enlazada en la seccisn fuentes es: http://www.alldomains.com/ CASOS JUDICIALES: ITALIA * Italia se une al grupo de pamses con conflictos en torno a los Nombres de Domino llamados a resolverse en sede judicial. En la Web anteriormente mencionada, en concreto en la pagina http://www2.echo.lu/legal/en/news/9710/chapter9.html#2, se comenta la noticia aparecida en el perisdico "Il Sole-24Ore" el 22 de agosto de 1.997, y 18 de septiembre de ese mismo aqo, relativa al conflicto existente entre los dominios amadeus.net y amadeus.it. REINO UNIDO * En la seccisn documentacisn de la Web se ha incluido un enlace a la Resolucisn judicial britanica que ha sido emitida en el juicio que enfrents a Marks & Spencer y otros frente a One in a Million Limited, Richard Conway y Julian Nicholson. Esta Sentencia se puede obtener en: http://www.nic.uk/news/judgment2.html FRANCIA Una interesante direccisn para estar al dma de lo que acontece en sedes judiciales francesas sobre Internet y, especmficamente, sobre Nombres de Dominio, es la siguiente: http://www.legalis.net/legalnet/judiciaire/internet_marques.htm * El primero de los casos, de los que se da cuenta en la anterior direccisn, es el referente al Dominio Atlantel. Una Sociedad, "SAPESO", es titular de la marca "Atlantel" y registrs el dominio "atlantel.fr". Otra sociedad (ICARE) registrs en USA el dominio "atlantel.com" y, enterandose de ello la titular del dominio "atlantel.fr", ha demandado a "ICARE", con el objeto de que abandone el dominio "atlantel.com". La resolucisn judicial dictada en este caso, por el "Tribunal de grande instance de Bordeaux ", de fecha 22 de julio de 1.996, asm como un comentario (en francis) a la misma, se puede conseguir en la direccisn: http://www.legalis.net/legalnet/judiciaire/ord_0796.htm * Otro caso, en el que se ha emitido ya resolucisn judicial, es el referente al municipio de Saint-Tropez, y el Dominio saint-tropez.com. La resolucisn judicial dictada en este caso, "Dicision - Tribunal de grande instance de Draguignan, 1hre ch. civile", de fecha 21 de agosto de 1.997, asm como un comentario a la misma se puede obtener en la direccisn: http://www.legalis.net/legalnet/judiciaire/tgi_sttropez.htm * Finalmente en el caso relativo al asunto FRAMATOME se cuenta con la resolucisn judicial "Ordonnance de rifiri - Tribunal de grande instance de Paris" de 25 de abril 1997, cuyo texto y correspondiente comentario se puede obtener en la direccisn: http://www.legalis.net/legalnet/judiciaire/ord_0497.htm Estas decisiones judiciales han quedado enlazadas en la seccisn documentacisn (http://www.purplesys.es/users/dibu/documentacion.htm) de la Web, asm como en la seccisn los casos http://www.purplesys.es/users/dibu/casos.htm), dsnde se efectza un analisis a escala internacional de la litigiosidad surgida en torno a los Nombres de Dominio. ESTADOS UNIDOS: Ultima hora. * CASO PANAVISION Con fecha 17 de abril de 1.998 el "U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals" ha dictado Sentencia en el recurso planteado por Dennis Toeppen frente a la Sentencia del Juez Pregerson, de la Corte Federal de Distrito de California, de fecha 5 de noviembre de 1.996, dictada en el caso n: 96-3284 DDP, que se puede obtener en: http://www.jmls.edu/cyber/cases/panavis2.html . La sentencia dictada en primera instancia, y que es objeto de un extenso comentario en el artmculo "Planteamiento de la problematica jurmdica de los Nombres de Dominio" (http://www.purplesys.es/users/dibu/articulo.htm), fue apelada por el Sr. Toeppen que ha visto como el Tribunal de apelacisn ha desestimado tambiin sus pretensiones. La mencionada resolucisn judicial, de 17 de abril de 1.998, se puede obtener en: http://laws.findlaw.com/9th/9755467.html * CASO FRENTE A LA NSI (Network Solutions Inc.) (Thomas, et al. v. Network Solutions, Inc., et al. (D.C. Dist. Columbia. -Decided- April 3, 1998). Con fecha 3 de abril de 1.998, el Tribunal del Distrito de Columbia ha dictado resolucisn en el caso planteado por un grupo de titulares de Nombres de Dominio frente a la entidad que gestiona los dominios .com, .net y .org. Los demandantes pedman que se les restituyera parte del dinero que pagaron por los referidos dominios, bajo el principio "no taxation without representation", entendiendo que las tarifas impuestas por la NSI tenman la consideracisn, a estos efectos, de tributos (tax). El tribunal de distrito entiende que la tarifa cobrada por NSI constituye un tributo sometido al referido principio y, a menos que el Congreso apruebe con caracter retroactivo las tarifas, debera devolverse parte del dinero a los titulares de los dominios. La resolucisn judicial, tambiin establece una clara distincisn entre la cantidad atribuible al gobierno, y la destinada a la entidad privada que gestiona los dominios. Se puede conseguir en: http://www.aira.org/legal/jh3.html En Espaqa, se cuenta con el principio de reserva de Ley en materia tributaria contenido en el artmculo 31.3: "...sslo podran establecerse prestaciones ... patrimoniales de caracter pzblico con arreglo a la Ley", asm como en el 133.1: "la potestad originaria para establecer tributos, corresponde al Estado mediante Ley", ambos de la Constitucisn de 1.978. Analsgicamente a lo sucedido en los Estados Unidos, las tarifas que actualmente cobra el ES-NIC (http://www.nic.es) podrman ser susceptibles de considerarse como un precio pzblico o, incluso, como una tasa (regulados por la Ley 8/1989, de 13 de abril) que implicarma la efectiva aplicacisn de los mencionados preceptos constitucionales. El propio ES-NIC establece en su pagina de presentacisn que el registro de nombres de dominio de segundo nivel bajo "es" constituye un servicio pzblico, denominado ES-NIC, prestado por el Centro de Comunicaciones CSIC RedIRIS que se integra en el Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Cientmficas (CSIC), y las normas por las que se regulan las tarifas aplicables a este registro, al igual que sucede con las de NSI, se han escapado de los cauces legislativos ordinarios. La resolucisn judicial estadounidense, cuya lectura es altamente recomendable, pone de manifiesto las relaciones de esta figura con el Derecho Pzblico, evidenciadas, si quiera a nivel doctrinal, entre otros, por artmculos como los del britanico Mark Gould "An Island in the Net: Domain Naming and English Administrative Law" que se puede obtener en la direccisn http://aranea.law.bris.ac.uk/JMLS/Pub_Nominet.html , asm como el trabajo "Is the InterNIC's Dispute Policy Unconstitutional?" http://www.mids.org/legal/dispute.html). RESEQAS BIBLIOGRAFICAS: * Los hermanos Peter y Ellen Rony han elaborado un libro sobre los Nombres de Dominio titulado "Domain Name Handbook" (el libro de bolsillo de los Nombres de Dominio), y han creado una sede Web con motivo del mismo, en la que se puede consultar abundante informacisn, asm como adquirir, vma Amazon, el libro. La Web aludida ha quedado enlazada en la seccisn "fuentes" de esta pagina, y reside en la direccisn: http://domainhandbook.com/ * Recientemente se publics un libro relativo al gobierno de Internet (COORDINATING THE INTERNET) que agrupaba diversos artmculos de diferentes autores y se encontraba dedicado, en gran parte, a los Nombres de Dominio. Con una presentacisn menos atractiva que la de los hermanos Rony, este libro, que se puede conseguir tambiin vma Amazon, tiene su sede Web, enlazada en la seccisn "fuentes" de esta pagina, en: http://ksgwww.harvard.edu/iip/cai/cisupp.html * El abogado David Loundy ha escrito un extenso artmculo relativo a las materias propias de este boletmn titulado "A Primer on Trademark Law and Internet Addresses", que ha quedado enlazado en la seccisn "documentacisn" de esta sede Web, y que reside en la direccisn: http://www.Loundy.com/JMLS-Trademark.html En general, la pagina Web del Sr. Loundy constituye un recurso jurmdico valioso, con abundante informacisn relacionada con Internet y el Derecho, en la que se recogen, entre otras cosas, los diferentes artmculos que este jurista ha escrito, como el relativo a la legislacisn sobre correo electrsnico no solicitado de la que se da cuenta al final de este boletmn. La pagina principal de su sede Web reside en: http://www.Loundy.com/ CURIOSIDADES: * La conocida mundialmente "Playboy Enterprises" cuya sede Web ha sido calificada como la mas visitada de la Red, ha presentado una demanda (de 5 millones de dslares) contra la chica Playboy del aqo Terri Welles, basada en el uso que la Srta. Welles ha realizado de la marca Playboy en su Web, dado que incluye este nombre tanto en la propia pagina como en los metatags (palabras claves introducidas en el csdigo HTML que utilizan algunos buscadores para indexar la pagina) de la misma. No es iste el primer caso relacionado con Internet que Playboy ha tenido que soportar, y ya con anterioridad, la referida empresa obtuvo a su favor un pronunciamiento sobre el uso de su marca registrada como metatag. Esta resolucisn judicial se puede obtener en la direccisn: http://www.ljx.com/LJXfiles/playboy/playmateorder.html OTRAS CUESTIONES LEGALES RELACIONADAS CON INTERNET: * Correo electrsnico: El Estado de Washington ha publicado una legislacisn sobre el envmo de correo electrsnico sin identificar la fuente, en las practicas conocidas como "spam". Esta norma se puede consultar en: http://leginfo.leg.wa.gov/pub/billinfo/house/2750-2774/2752-s_sl_032798 David Loundy efectza un comentario a la misma en su artmculo publicado en el "Chicago Daily Law Bulletin": http://www.Loundy.com/CDLB/1998-Spam.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ) Javier A. Maestre, 1998 dibu(a)icam.es http://www.purplesys.es/users/dibu/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

1 0

(no subject)
by Rovný Daniel 23 Apr '98

23 Apr '98

Ja nevim jak vy ale ja mam problem s DNS serverem MS je tu nekdo kdo poradi ??? Daniel Rovný tel.: 02/21100437 mobil: 0602 32 16 76 e-mail: Daniel.Rovny(a)nova-tv.cz sms mobil: 321676(a)sms.eurotel.cz

1 0

Re: VoIP Numbering Plan Vs. Domain names. IPNP
by Berislav Todorovic 23 Apr '98

23 Apr '98

>> Do you happen to have the URL address for IETF ? Sure - http://www.ietf.org/! >> The manner that you are suggesting will be hard to use for the end user. >> Which will prefer to enter the DN and let the system network >> management to the resolving work. It might be the case for the universal >> IPNP system to behave in the manner that you are describing, but the end >> user still need a simplified way to enter the DN. The user would only chose a phone number - like they use it in the usual phone communications. Conversion from the standard phone number to the "*.*.*...*.tpc.int" form should be done by the client application used for placing a call. Of course, the application might also have many other capabilities, like a gateway to a phone-book database, which might be on a local site, network etc. But - all of that is a matter of the client application. I've only described ONE possible solution, easy for network managers and ready to be implemented NOW - at least from the administrative point of view. I don't think there aren't better solutions! Internet telephony is a complex area, with much problems yet to be solved, like signalization, call processing, gateway parameters exchange etc. Best regards, Beri .-------. | --+-- | Berislav Todorovic, B.Sc.E.E. | E-mail: BERI(a)etf.bg.ac.yu | /|\ Hostmaster of the YU TLD | |-(-+-)-| School of Electrical Engineering | Phone: (+381-11) 3221-419 | \|/ Bulevar Revolucije 73 | 3370-106 | --+-- | 11000 Belgrade SERBIA, YUGOSLAVIA | Fax: (+381-11) 3248-681 `-------' --------------------------------------------------------------------

1 0

RE: VoIP Numbering Plan Vs. Domain names. IPNP
by Jim Fleming 23 Apr '98

23 Apr '98

On Thursday, April 23, 1998 8:22 AM, Berislav Todorovic[SMTP:BERI@etf.bg.ac.yu] wrote: @>> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:07:42 +0200 @>> From: Vered Nimrod <nim(a)tadirantele.com> @>> Subject: VoIP Numbering Plan Vs. Domain names. IPNP @>> @>> Is there any work being done on the above subject ? @ @IETF has a working group dealing with IP Telephony, but I'm not sure @whether they are dealing with the mentioned problem, or not. @ There is also a lot of work that has already been done in this area and most of the world has either not seen it or has not invented it as their own yet. Before focusing on the numbering plan, you might want to wrestle with the "service model" issues. Some people want a pure end-to-end system, other people (like me) advocate a proxy/gateway model. IPv6 is a product of the end-to-end group and IPv8 is a product of the proxy/gateway advocates, who some like to label "telephone people". In the end-to-end model the assumption is that a "telephone" will have enough intelligence to communicate directly with other telephones and servers attached to the open and flat network. In the proxy/gateway model the telephone has an uplink connection to a machine that provides agency services via software agents. Those agencies then cooperate and have a different trust relationship with each other than end-users. Some people do not like giving away that trust relationship. Therefore, they advocate end-to-end. It will be interesting to see where it all comes out. Fortunately, the marketplace will get to decide...if it is allowed to... - Jim Fleming Unir Corporation IBC, Tortola, BVI

1 0

Re: VoIP Numbering Plan Vs. Domain names. IPNP
by Berislav Todorovic 23 Apr '98

23 Apr '98

>> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:07:42 +0200 >> From: Vered Nimrod <nim(a)tadirantele.com> >> Subject: VoIP Numbering Plan Vs. Domain names. IPNP >> >> Is there any work being done on the above subject ? IETF has a working group dealing with IP Telephony, but I'm not sure whether they are dealing with the mentioned problem, or not. >> There is a need for a universal IPNP (IP Numbering Plan) system. So >> that every equipment that will be connected to the Internet will >> have a unique DN (Directory Number). The solution should rather be sought in the domain name system. And there is already a possible solution to the problem, outlined in the RFC 1530 (Principles of Operation of the TPC.INT Subdomain). This is, of course, my personal view of the matter and just one more idea on the solution to the problem. * A user calling from a "net phone" would use a host name in the form 7.9.3.3.6.2.9.3.2.7.9.tpc.int to call the phone number +972-3-9263397 belonging to a "regular" PSTN (i.e. domain name is the reversed phone number, much like IN-ADDR.ARPA system). In the DNS, there should be an "MX" record pointing to the PSTN/Internet gateway, e.g.: *.*.*.*.*.*.3.2.7.9.tpc.int. IN MX 10 pstn-gw.domain.com. The client application should consult the MX records, find out the name of the gateway and then connect to the gateway - the same way mail clients do. * A user calling from a PSTN should probably use an access code to reach a local PSTN/Internet gateway - which is exactly the way you described. That access code should be assigned by a national telecom authority. Best regards, Beri .-------. | --+-- | Berislav Todorovic, B.Sc.E.E. | E-mail: BERI(a)etf.bg.ac.yu | /|\ Hostmaster of the YU TLD | |-(-+-)-| School of Electrical Engineering | Phone: (+381-11) 3221-419 | \|/ Bulevar Revolucije 73 | 3370-106 | --+-- | 11000 Belgrade SERBIA, YUGOSLAVIA | Fax: (+381-11) 3248-681 `-------' --------------------------------------------------------------------

1 0

RE: VoIP Numbering Plan Vs. Domain names. IPNP
by Vered Nimrod 23 Apr '98

23 Apr '98

Do you happen to have the URL address for IETF ? * A user calling from a "net phone" would use a host name in the form 7.9.3.3.6.2.9.3.2.7.9.tpc.int to call the phone number +972-3-9263397 belonging to a "regular" PSTN (i.e. domain name is The manner that you are suggesting will be hard to use for the end user. Which will prefer to enter the DN and let the system’s network management to the resolving work. It might be the case for the universal IPNP system to behave in the manner that you are describing, but the end user still need a simplified way to enter the DN. ---------------------------------------- Eng. Nimrod Vered , B.Sc. E.E.E. VoIP Project Manager ======================== Tadiran Telecommunication Business and Access Division Tel/Fax : 972-3-9263397 E-Mail :nim@tadirantele.com ---------------------------------------- " Reality Starts With A Dream... ! " -----Original Message----- From: Berislav Todorovic [SMTP:BERI@etf.bg.ac.yu] Sent: ה אפריל 23 1998 16:22 To: nim(a)tadirantele.com Cc: dns-wg(a)ripe.net Subject: Re: VoIP Numbering Plan Vs. Domain names. IPNP >> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:07:42 +0200 >> From: Vered Nimrod <nim(a)tadirantele.com> >> Subject: VoIP Numbering Plan Vs. Domain names. IPNP >> >> Is there any work being done on the above subject ? IETF has a working group dealing with IP Telephony, but I'm not sure whether they are dealing with the mentioned problem, or not. >> There is a need for a universal IPNP (IP Numbering Plan) system. So >> that every equipment that will be connected to the Internet will >> have a unique DN (Directory Number). The solution should rather be sought in the domain name system. And there is already a possible solution to the problem, outlined in the RFC 1530 (Principles of Operation of the TPC.INT Subdomain). This is, of course, my personal view of the matter and just one more idea on the solution to the problem. * A user calling from a "net phone" would use a host name in the form 7.9.3.3.6.2.9.3.2.7.9.tpc.int to call the phone number +972-3-9263397 belonging to a "regular" PSTN (i.e. domain name is the reversed phone number, much like IN-ADDR.ARPA system). In the DNS, there should be an "MX" record pointing to the PSTN/Internet gateway, e.g.: *.*.*.*.*.*.3.2.7.9.tpc.int. IN MX 10 pstn-gw.domain.com. The client application should consult the MX records, find out the name of the gateway and then connect to the gateway - the same way mail clients do. * A user calling from a PSTN should probably use an access code to reach a local PSTN/Internet gateway - which is exactly the way you described. That access code should be assigned by a national telecom authority. Best regards, Beri .-------. | --+-- | Berislav Todorovic, B.Sc.E.E. | E-mail: BERI(a)etf.bg.ac.yu | /|\ Hostmaster of the YU TLD | |-(-+-)-| School of Electrical Engineering | Phone: (+381-11) 3221-419 | \|/ Bulevar Revolucije 73 | 3370-106 | --+-- | 11000 Belgrade SERBIA, YUGOSLAVIA | Fax: (+381-11) 3248-681 `-------' --------------------------------------------------------------------

2 1

VoIP Numbering Plan Vs. Domain names. IPNP
by Vered Nimrod 23 Apr '98

23 Apr '98

Hi, Is there any work being done on the above subject ? With the rapid development of the VoIP technology, the existing of many manufacturers that are developing VoIP systems and the fact that there are several VoIP systems that within them selves do have management capabilities, but not when trying to communicate outside of the system. There is a need for a universal IPNP (IP Numbering Plan) system. So that every equipment that will be connected to the Internet will have a unique DN (Directory Number). Thus, when trying to connect outside of the system to another subscriber that is connected to another system there will be an IPNP server that will resolve the DN into a valid IP address. This DN will be the same as an existing PSTN Numbering Plan, e.g. if my phone number is +972-3-9263397 ( 972- is the Israel code, 3- is the local area code, and 9263397 is the phone number). Then all we need to change is the local area code, same as done with the cellophane system. I.e. my Internet phone number will be +972-xx-9263397 where xx is to be determined. Another issue is that for each VoIP system there is a GateKeeper which one of its functions is to provide entrance to the system’s management. It is in my believe that those GateKeepers should be labeled with a unique set of domain names i.e. .VOIP e.g. tadirantele.voip or in a similar method. Regards, ---------------------------------------- Eng. Nimrod Vered , B.Sc. E.E.E. VoIP Project Manager ======================== Tadiran Telecommunication Business and Access Division Tel/Fax : 972-3-9263397 E-Mail :nim@tadirantele.com ---------------------------------------- " Reality Starts With A Dream... ! "

1 0

Private Invitation
by 81400987＠hotmail.com 15 Apr '98

15 Apr '98

United World Friends Invitation # 201029 Dear World Friend: I am sure that by now you have tried all the "Get-Rich-Quick" schemes out there, and are ready and willing to turn your attention to something that really works. Most people are. Read on to unlock this Secret Door to your future. Would you like to quietly make extra money every month, year after year, and all of it be tax free? I knew you would. Now you can with the help of our World-Wide private network of friends helping friends. I would like to invite you to join a very special group of people and make the kind of money you are seeking. We have a private program based in the USA that extends around the entire world. Most of us are middle-aged or older, conservative and family oriented. We all made the commitment to do whatever we have to do -- as long as it is ethical, honest and legal -- to make tremendous income together in the years ahead. We have all `been there and done that' very much like you. We can all make money quietly and privately in comfort. You will not get rich overnight. If you want to get rich quick, this is not for you. By keeping it among private members, we can all profit handsomely in the coming months and years without drawing unnecessary attention to ourselves or our confidential strategies. I will show you how we use our unique, controlled, and honest program to put you in whatever income bracket you choose. All I want you to do is send $3.00 (to cover printing and postage) and I will send you all of our detailed information on how the club works and how everyone helps everyone. There is a one-time $10.00 set-up fee to become a member. Do not send the $10.00 now. If you like what you see after you review the information, then you can send in your $10.00 membership fee. We know you will like what you see. Our program will not interfere with any other programs in which you are participating. I will show you just how easy and powerful this program really is. Your tax-free cash gifts will come to you in increments of $10.00, not one or two dollars like some of the other programs out there. The money you can make is extraordinary, and we do most of the work. Our powerful Pentium servers and software keep track of everything for you.. You owe it to yourself to take a look and then decide if you would like to receive the kind of money that most people can only dream about. You will spend more than $3.00 on snacks today. Your future is worth more than a snack. No one will call you. No one will come see you. There is no pressure. You do not have to talk to anyone. You decide if you want to be part of our private network on your own after you review the information package. This is a private club with the privacy of each and every member protected. Quiet, confidential and comfortable. Mail this ENTIRE LETTER along with $3.00 inside US - $4.00 outside US (cash only USD) for printing and postage to: UWF-Info * POBox 802-cb * CLEMMONS NC * 27012-0802 * USA Name: ______________________________________________________________ Address: __________________________________________________________ City: _______________________ State: _________ Zip: ____________ Country: ___________________________ #201029

1 0

One Million Dollars FREE!
by 00023648＠netcom.com 13 Apr '98

13 Apr '98

One Million Dollar Bill FREE! Bet you have never seen a MILLION DOLLAR BILL before must less held one in your hands! To be able to actually feel the texture of the finely engraved surface and smell the new ink! Can you imagine the look on your friends and families faces when you show them a REAL, GENUINE, AUTHENTIC UNITED STATES ONE MILLION DOLLAR BILL? WOW! Not to mention you will never be 'broke' with a Million Dollars in your pocket! Lets face it - How many people do you know with a Million Dollars? To get your own FREE Million Dollar Bill: Send a Self-Addressed, STAMPED #10 Business Envelope (SASE) and $2.00 (USD) per bill handling to: (limit 5) WEB of Millions POBox 802-cb CLEMMONS NC 27012-0802 USA If outside of USA, please include $1.00 (USD) extra for US Postage with Self-Addressed, #10 Business Envelope (4-1/8" x 9-1/2") Name: ________________________________________________ Address: _____________________________________________ City: _____________________ State: _____ Zip: ________ Country: ___________ Email: ____________@_____________ O R D E R T O D A Y ! ! ! Special Offer good O N L Y with your FREE bill order: 100 Bills for $75.00. (1,000 price break) 1,000 Bills for $600.00. (10,000 price break) 10,000 Bills for $5,000.00. (20,000 price break) Great new advertising concept! Give them a Million Dollars! NO ONE throws Money away! Can you say that for your Business Cards, or ink pens, or calenders? Custom Printing available. O R D E R T O D A Y ! ! !

1 0