Meeting Notes - Diversity TF Meeting 20181015
Folks, Here are my notes from yesterday's meeting, please let me know if there are any mistakes or omissions. RIPE Diversity TF 20181015 Present: Mirjam, Denesh, Shane, Vesna, Jelte, Salam, Julia, Amdanda, Sasha, E, Brian General Point: Diversity/Inclusivity is more than "just" gender and race. Also around food, travel, cost etc. Metrics: - Shane has updated the metrics based on name of attendees, continuing over time. He will publish the info to the list. RIPE77 seems to have more women attending than the last meeting in Amsterdam, but fewer than the last five meetings. Around 16%. Being checked against NCC self declaration information. - NCC info 10% self identified as female, 25% declined to answer, 1 NB, 2 Other, all other male - SREcon in Düsseldorf, 13% women, 13% declined to answer, 74% men - Shane looking at pulling out AMS meetings to try and get a trend based on same location - Can also get information from t-shirt types and sizes. 103/800 looking for women's cut - Data is all in Github, so others can work on it. - But Shane isn't sure what the right approach/direction is, so hence part of the reason for the BoF on Tuesday. That might give more info on what metrics to track. Action: Shane to send out information and continue to think about the metrics Local Communities: - Vesna contacted some of the hackerspace communities - Hackerspace visit on Wednesday - Need to make a push for RIPE78 - Looking to get school age girls to come, but communications broke down with the relevant local people Childcare: - Only 2 kids registered for RIPE77 - Unfortunately can't be continued if kids aren't being registered - Very visible for RIPE77 registration - Cost now at €10/day - Reduced cost due to local providers - Forecast uncertain for RIPE78 at present - Going to look at gaining information in advance again, both during 77 feedback and maybe opening registration early to get information more in advance? - General feeling that we should continue it if at all possible Mentoring: - Official mentoring programme launched at the end of August - Around 13 people signed up to be mentors - Almost all mentors signed up with mentees TF Update: - Plan now to put one slide into HPH's closing plenary presentation. General vibe that we are continuing, that progress is happening, and TF to recheck need for TF. Current feeling is we continue to need it. RIPE CoC: - Trusted Contacts received training from Hubert Consult, Vesna to send the details to the list - Need to review and improve at this point in time - Especially in regards to the procedure around dealing with reports and who can take the action to remove someone from the meeting? - Sasha has a template for a possible changes to/rewrite of the CoC - Sasha will send an email to the list with the JangoCon Europe information and we can file off the relevant serial numbers - TF to consider how to make updating the CoC and associated procedures easier - Brian & Shane to inform the PC and WG Chairs that this work is ongoing Helping Other Communities: - Need to look at checklist for NCC sponsored events Open Action: Gender diversity in speakers and leadership still isn't where we want it to be. Open Action: UKNOF update not on programme, hopefully for Iceland Open Action: Vesna will try again to reach Dutch office of Women & Girls in Tech Open Action: Need to make it easier to change the name of a speaker after submission has been made, NCC working on this for PCSS Open Action: Amanda was talking to HPH about restricting questions to online submission and led by session chair, so no questions from the mic. HPH interested in the idea. Suggestion that both pronoun stickers and "Do not photograph" stickers/badges should be available Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270
Hi all, See screenshot for the proposed slide for HPH's Closing Plenary slot...can you please let me know if there's anything to change? Thanks, Amanda On 16/10/2018 11:52, Brian Nisbet wrote:
Folks,
Here are my notes from yesterday's meeting, please let me know if there are any mistakes or omissions.
RIPE Diversity TF 20181015
Present: Mirjam, Denesh, Shane, Vesna, Jelte, Salam, Julia, Amdanda, Sasha, E, Brian
General Point: Diversity/Inclusivity is more than "just" gender and race. Also around food, travel, cost etc.
Metrics: - Shane has updated the metrics based on name of attendees, continuing over time. He will publish the info to the list. RIPE77 seems to have more women attending than the last meeting in Amsterdam, but fewer than the last five meetings. Around 16%. Being checked against NCC self declaration information. - NCC info 10% self identified as female, 25% declined to answer, 1 NB, 2 Other, all other male - SREcon in Düsseldorf, 13% women, 13% declined to answer, 74% men - Shane looking at pulling out AMS meetings to try and get a trend based on same location - Can also get information from t-shirt types and sizes. 103/800 looking for women's cut - Data is all in Github, so others can work on it. - But Shane isn't sure what the right approach/direction is, so hence part of the reason for the BoF on Tuesday. That might give more info on what metrics to track.
Action: Shane to send out information and continue to think about the metrics
Local Communities: - Vesna contacted some of the hackerspace communities - Hackerspace visit on Wednesday - Need to make a push for RIPE78 - Looking to get school age girls to come, but communications broke down with the relevant local people
Childcare: - Only 2 kids registered for RIPE77 - Unfortunately can't be continued if kids aren't being registered - Very visible for RIPE77 registration - Cost now at €10/day - Reduced cost due to local providers - Forecast uncertain for RIPE78 at present - Going to look at gaining information in advance again, both during 77 feedback and maybe opening registration early to get information more in advance? - General feeling that we should continue it if at all possible
Mentoring: - Official mentoring programme launched at the end of August - Around 13 people signed up to be mentors - Almost all mentors signed up with mentees
TF Update: - Plan now to put one slide into HPH's closing plenary presentation. General vibe that we are continuing, that progress is happening, and TF to recheck need for TF. Current feeling is we continue to need it.
RIPE CoC: - Trusted Contacts received training from Hubert Consult, Vesna to send the details to the list - Need to review and improve at this point in time - Especially in regards to the procedure around dealing with reports and who can take the action to remove someone from the meeting? - Sasha has a template for a possible changes to/rewrite of the CoC - Sasha will send an email to the list with the JangoCon Europe information and we can file off the relevant serial numbers - TF to consider how to make updating the CoC and associated procedures easier - Brian & Shane to inform the PC and WG Chairs that this work is ongoing
Helping Other Communities: - Need to look at checklist for NCC sponsored events
Open Action: Gender diversity in speakers and leadership still isn't where we want it to be.
Open Action: UKNOF update not on programme, hopefully for Iceland
Open Action: Vesna will try again to reach Dutch office of Women & Girls in Tech
Open Action: Need to make it easier to change the name of a speaker after submission has been made, NCC working on this for PCSS
Open Action: Amanda was talking to HPH about restricting questions to online submission and led by session chair, so no questions from the mic. HPH interested in the idea.
Suggestion that both pronoun stickers and "Do not photograph" stickers/badges should be available
Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270
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So, argh, and this is my fault, I *completely* forgot the 'questions by app' bit in amongst the updates to the PC. So that means it will come as a surprise to the rest of the group at the plenary tomorrow. I think the easiest thing is for me to send a mail to the PC saying that the TF would like to talk to them/us in more detail about the proposal to see where we can get to and that we will be saying it during the Plenary. Fair warning, and it's only a proposal? Other than that, I like it, nice and simple. Brian Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 On 18/10/2018, 16:44, "diversity on behalf of Amanda Gowland" <diversity-bounces@ripe.net on behalf of agowland@ripe.net> wrote: Hi all, See screenshot for the proposed slide for HPH's Closing Plenary slot...can you please let me know if there's anything to change? Thanks, Amanda On 16/10/2018 11:52, Brian Nisbet wrote: > Folks, > > Here are my notes from yesterday's meeting, please let me know if there are any mistakes or omissions. > > RIPE Diversity TF 20181015 > > Present: Mirjam, Denesh, Shane, Vesna, Jelte, Salam, Julia, Amdanda, Sasha, E, Brian > > General Point: Diversity/Inclusivity is more than "just" gender and race. Also around food, travel, cost etc. > > Metrics: > - Shane has updated the metrics based on name of attendees, continuing over time. He will publish the info to the list. RIPE77 seems to have more women attending than the last meeting in Amsterdam, but fewer than the last five meetings. Around 16%. Being checked against NCC self declaration information. > - NCC info 10% self identified as female, 25% declined to answer, 1 NB, 2 Other, all other male > - SREcon in Düsseldorf, 13% women, 13% declined to answer, 74% men > - Shane looking at pulling out AMS meetings to try and get a trend based on same location > - Can also get information from t-shirt types and sizes. 103/800 looking for women's cut > - Data is all in Github, so others can work on it. > - But Shane isn't sure what the right approach/direction is, so hence part of the reason for the BoF on Tuesday. That might give more info on what metrics to track. > > Action: Shane to send out information and continue to think about the metrics > > Local Communities: > - Vesna contacted some of the hackerspace communities > - Hackerspace visit on Wednesday > - Need to make a push for RIPE78 > - Looking to get school age girls to come, but communications broke down with the relevant local people > > Childcare: > - Only 2 kids registered for RIPE77 > - Unfortunately can't be continued if kids aren't being registered > - Very visible for RIPE77 registration > - Cost now at €10/day > - Reduced cost due to local providers > - Forecast uncertain for RIPE78 at present > - Going to look at gaining information in advance again, both during 77 feedback and maybe opening registration early to get information more in advance? > - General feeling that we should continue it if at all possible > > Mentoring: > - Official mentoring programme launched at the end of August > - Around 13 people signed up to be mentors > - Almost all mentors signed up with mentees > > TF Update: > - Plan now to put one slide into HPH's closing plenary presentation. General vibe that we are continuing, that progress is happening, and TF to recheck need for TF. Current feeling is we continue to need it. > > RIPE CoC: > - Trusted Contacts received training from Hubert Consult, Vesna to send the details to the list > - Need to review and improve at this point in time > - Especially in regards to the procedure around dealing with reports and who can take the action to remove someone from the meeting? > - Sasha has a template for a possible changes to/rewrite of the CoC > - Sasha will send an email to the list with the JangoCon Europe information and we can file off the relevant serial numbers > - TF to consider how to make updating the CoC and associated procedures easier > - Brian & Shane to inform the PC and WG Chairs that this work is ongoing > > Helping Other Communities: > - Need to look at checklist for NCC sponsored events > > Open Action: Gender diversity in speakers and leadership still isn't where we want it to be. > > Open Action: UKNOF update not on programme, hopefully for Iceland > > Open Action: Vesna will try again to reach Dutch office of Women & Girls in Tech > > Open Action: Need to make it easier to change the name of a speaker after submission has been made, NCC working on this for PCSS > > Open Action: Amanda was talking to HPH about restricting questions to online submission and led by session chair, so no questions from the mic. HPH interested in the idea. > > Suggestion that both pronoun stickers and "Do not photograph" stickers/badges should be available > > Brian Nisbet > Network Operations Manager > HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network > 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie > Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 > > > _______________________________________________ > diversity mailing list > diversity@ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/diversity
Yeah, it is only a proposal so still very much open for discussion. Should I keep the slide as is then? On 18/10/2018 16:46, Brian Nisbet wrote:
So, argh, and this is my fault, I *completely* forgot the 'questions by app' bit in amongst the updates to the PC. So that means it will come as a surprise to the rest of the group at the plenary tomorrow.
I think the easiest thing is for me to send a mail to the PC saying that the TF would like to talk to them/us in more detail about the proposal to see where we can get to and that we will be saying it during the Plenary. Fair warning, and it's only a proposal?
Other than that, I like it, nice and simple.
Brian
Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270
On 18/10/2018, 16:44, "diversity on behalf of Amanda Gowland" <diversity-bounces@ripe.net on behalf of agowland@ripe.net> wrote:
Hi all,
See screenshot for the proposed slide for HPH's Closing Plenary slot...can you please let me know if there's anything to change?
Thanks,
Amanda
On 16/10/2018 11:52, Brian Nisbet wrote: > Folks, > > Here are my notes from yesterday's meeting, please let me know if there are any mistakes or omissions. > > RIPE Diversity TF 20181015 > > Present: Mirjam, Denesh, Shane, Vesna, Jelte, Salam, Julia, Amdanda, Sasha, E, Brian > > General Point: Diversity/Inclusivity is more than "just" gender and race. Also around food, travel, cost etc. > > Metrics: > - Shane has updated the metrics based on name of attendees, continuing over time. He will publish the info to the list. RIPE77 seems to have more women attending than the last meeting in Amsterdam, but fewer than the last five meetings. Around 16%. Being checked against NCC self declaration information. > - NCC info 10% self identified as female, 25% declined to answer, 1 NB, 2 Other, all other male > - SREcon in Düsseldorf, 13% women, 13% declined to answer, 74% men > - Shane looking at pulling out AMS meetings to try and get a trend based on same location > - Can also get information from t-shirt types and sizes. 103/800 looking for women's cut > - Data is all in Github, so others can work on it. > - But Shane isn't sure what the right approach/direction is, so hence part of the reason for the BoF on Tuesday. That might give more info on what metrics to track. > > Action: Shane to send out information and continue to think about the metrics > > Local Communities: > - Vesna contacted some of the hackerspace communities > - Hackerspace visit on Wednesday > - Need to make a push for RIPE78 > - Looking to get school age girls to come, but communications broke down with the relevant local people > > Childcare: > - Only 2 kids registered for RIPE77 > - Unfortunately can't be continued if kids aren't being registered > - Very visible for RIPE77 registration > - Cost now at €10/day > - Reduced cost due to local providers > - Forecast uncertain for RIPE78 at present > - Going to look at gaining information in advance again, both during 77 feedback and maybe opening registration early to get information more in advance? > - General feeling that we should continue it if at all possible > > Mentoring: > - Official mentoring programme launched at the end of August > - Around 13 people signed up to be mentors > - Almost all mentors signed up with mentees > > TF Update: > - Plan now to put one slide into HPH's closing plenary presentation. General vibe that we are continuing, that progress is happening, and TF to recheck need for TF. Current feeling is we continue to need it. > > RIPE CoC: > - Trusted Contacts received training from Hubert Consult, Vesna to send the details to the list > - Need to review and improve at this point in time > - Especially in regards to the procedure around dealing with reports and who can take the action to remove someone from the meeting? > - Sasha has a template for a possible changes to/rewrite of the CoC > - Sasha will send an email to the list with the JangoCon Europe information and we can file off the relevant serial numbers > - TF to consider how to make updating the CoC and associated procedures easier > - Brian & Shane to inform the PC and WG Chairs that this work is ongoing > > Helping Other Communities: > - Need to look at checklist for NCC sponsored events > > Open Action: Gender diversity in speakers and leadership still isn't where we want it to be. > > Open Action: UKNOF update not on programme, hopefully for Iceland > > Open Action: Vesna will try again to reach Dutch office of Women & Girls in Tech > > Open Action: Need to make it easier to change the name of a speaker after submission has been made, NCC working on this for PCSS > > Open Action: Amanda was talking to HPH about restricting questions to online submission and led by session chair, so no questions from the mic. HPH interested in the idea. > > Suggestion that both pronoun stickers and "Do not photograph" stickers/badges should be available > > Brian Nisbet > Network Operations Manager > HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network > 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie > Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 > > > _______________________________________________ > diversity mailing list > diversity@ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/diversity
Personally I'd prefer if it wasn't on the slide and that you (or Vesna, or both of you, or someone else from the TF) possibly joined the PC on a call to discuss this before announcing it? To be clear, I think with the plan of definitely doing it as a trial, rather than putting it out as just a possibility. But, to be very clear, this is just one voice and I could well be being overly paranoid here and the mistake in communication was mine. Thanks again, Brian Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 On 19/10/2018, 10:21, "Amanda Gowland" <agowland@ripe.net> wrote: Yeah, it is only a proposal so still very much open for discussion. Should I keep the slide as is then? On 18/10/2018 16:46, Brian Nisbet wrote: > So, argh, and this is my fault, I *completely* forgot the 'questions by app' bit in amongst the updates to the PC. So that means it will come as a surprise to the rest of the group at the plenary tomorrow. > > I think the easiest thing is for me to send a mail to the PC saying that the TF would like to talk to them/us in more detail about the proposal to see where we can get to and that we will be saying it during the Plenary. Fair warning, and it's only a proposal? > > Other than that, I like it, nice and simple. > > Brian > > Brian Nisbet > Network Operations Manager > HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network > 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie > Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 > > > On 18/10/2018, 16:44, "diversity on behalf of Amanda Gowland" <diversity-bounces@ripe.net on behalf of agowland@ripe.net> wrote: > > Hi all, > > See screenshot for the proposed slide for HPH's Closing Plenary > slot...can you please let me know if there's anything to change? > > Thanks, > > Amanda > > On 16/10/2018 11:52, Brian Nisbet wrote: > > Folks, > > > > Here are my notes from yesterday's meeting, please let me know if there are any mistakes or omissions. > > > > RIPE Diversity TF 20181015 > > > > Present: Mirjam, Denesh, Shane, Vesna, Jelte, Salam, Julia, Amdanda, Sasha, E, Brian > > > > General Point: Diversity/Inclusivity is more than "just" gender and race. Also around food, travel, cost etc. > > > > Metrics: > > - Shane has updated the metrics based on name of attendees, continuing over time. He will publish the info to the list. RIPE77 seems to have more women attending than the last meeting in Amsterdam, but fewer than the last five meetings. Around 16%. Being checked against NCC self declaration information. > > - NCC info 10% self identified as female, 25% declined to answer, 1 NB, 2 Other, all other male > > - SREcon in Düsseldorf, 13% women, 13% declined to answer, 74% men > > - Shane looking at pulling out AMS meetings to try and get a trend based on same location > > - Can also get information from t-shirt types and sizes. 103/800 looking for women's cut > > - Data is all in Github, so others can work on it. > > - But Shane isn't sure what the right approach/direction is, so hence part of the reason for the BoF on Tuesday. That might give more info on what metrics to track. > > > > Action: Shane to send out information and continue to think about the metrics > > > > Local Communities: > > - Vesna contacted some of the hackerspace communities > > - Hackerspace visit on Wednesday > > - Need to make a push for RIPE78 > > - Looking to get school age girls to come, but communications broke down with the relevant local people > > > > Childcare: > > - Only 2 kids registered for RIPE77 > > - Unfortunately can't be continued if kids aren't being registered > > - Very visible for RIPE77 registration > > - Cost now at €10/day > > - Reduced cost due to local providers > > - Forecast uncertain for RIPE78 at present > > - Going to look at gaining information in advance again, both during 77 feedback and maybe opening registration early to get information more in advance? > > - General feeling that we should continue it if at all possible > > > > Mentoring: > > - Official mentoring programme launched at the end of August > > - Around 13 people signed up to be mentors > > - Almost all mentors signed up with mentees > > > > TF Update: > > - Plan now to put one slide into HPH's closing plenary presentation. General vibe that we are continuing, that progress is happening, and TF to recheck need for TF. Current feeling is we continue to need it. > > > > RIPE CoC: > > - Trusted Contacts received training from Hubert Consult, Vesna to send the details to the list > > - Need to review and improve at this point in time > > - Especially in regards to the procedure around dealing with reports and who can take the action to remove someone from the meeting? > > - Sasha has a template for a possible changes to/rewrite of the CoC > > - Sasha will send an email to the list with the JangoCon Europe information and we can file off the relevant serial numbers > > - TF to consider how to make updating the CoC and associated procedures easier > > - Brian & Shane to inform the PC and WG Chairs that this work is ongoing > > > > Helping Other Communities: > > - Need to look at checklist for NCC sponsored events > > > > Open Action: Gender diversity in speakers and leadership still isn't where we want it to be. > > > > Open Action: UKNOF update not on programme, hopefully for Iceland > > > > Open Action: Vesna will try again to reach Dutch office of Women & Girls in Tech > > > > Open Action: Need to make it easier to change the name of a speaker after submission has been made, NCC working on this for PCSS > > > > Open Action: Amanda was talking to HPH about restricting questions to online submission and led by session chair, so no questions from the mic. HPH interested in the idea. > > > > Suggestion that both pronoun stickers and "Do not photograph" stickers/badges should be available > > > > Brian Nisbet > > Network Operations Manager > > HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network > > 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie > > Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > diversity mailing list > > diversity@ripe.net > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/diversity > > > >
I personally do not think it is an issue.. Amanda can easily explain why we are thinking of this and it is only a proposal at this stage.. and Brian can email all the space chairs to confirm this. Regards Denesh
On 19 Oct 2018, at 10:26, Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote:
Personally I'd prefer if it wasn't on the slide and that you (or Vesna, or both of you, or someone else from the TF) possibly joined the PC on a call to discuss this before announcing it? To be clear, I think with the plan of definitely doing it as a trial, rather than putting it out as just a possibility.
But, to be very clear, this is just one voice and I could well be being overly paranoid here and the mistake in communication was mine.
Thanks again,
Brian
Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270
On 19/10/2018, 10:21, "Amanda Gowland" <agowland@ripe.net> wrote:
Yeah, it is only a proposal so still very much open for discussion.
Should I keep the slide as is then?
On 18/10/2018 16:46, Brian Nisbet wrote: So, argh, and this is my fault, I *completely* forgot the 'questions by app' bit in amongst the updates to the PC. So that means it will come as a surprise to the rest of the group at the plenary tomorrow.
I think the easiest thing is for me to send a mail to the PC saying that the TF would like to talk to them/us in more detail about the proposal to see where we can get to and that we will be saying it during the Plenary. Fair warning, and it's only a proposal?
Other than that, I like it, nice and simple.
Brian
Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270
On 18/10/2018, 16:44, "diversity on behalf of Amanda Gowland" <diversity-bounces@ripe.net on behalf of agowland@ripe.net> wrote:
Hi all,
See screenshot for the proposed slide for HPH's Closing Plenary slot...can you please let me know if there's anything to change?
Thanks,
Amanda
On 16/10/2018 11:52, Brian Nisbet wrote: Folks,
Here are my notes from yesterday's meeting, please let me know if there are any mistakes or omissions.
RIPE Diversity TF 20181015
Present: Mirjam, Denesh, Shane, Vesna, Jelte, Salam, Julia, Amdanda, Sasha, E, Brian
General Point: Diversity/Inclusivity is more than "just" gender and race. Also around food, travel, cost etc.
Metrics: - Shane has updated the metrics based on name of attendees, continuing over time. He will publish the info to the list. RIPE77 seems to have more women attending than the last meeting in Amsterdam, but fewer than the last five meetings. Around 16%. Being checked against NCC self declaration information. - NCC info 10% self identified as female, 25% declined to answer, 1 NB, 2 Other, all other male - SREcon in Düsseldorf, 13% women, 13% declined to answer, 74% men - Shane looking at pulling out AMS meetings to try and get a trend based on same location - Can also get information from t-shirt types and sizes. 103/800 looking for women's cut - Data is all in Github, so others can work on it. - But Shane isn't sure what the right approach/direction is, so hence part of the reason for the BoF on Tuesday. That might give more info on what metrics to track.
Action: Shane to send out information and continue to think about the metrics
Local Communities: - Vesna contacted some of the hackerspace communities - Hackerspace visit on Wednesday - Need to make a push for RIPE78 - Looking to get school age girls to come, but communications broke down with the relevant local people
Childcare: - Only 2 kids registered for RIPE77 - Unfortunately can't be continued if kids aren't being registered - Very visible for RIPE77 registration - Cost now at €10/day - Reduced cost due to local providers - Forecast uncertain for RIPE78 at present - Going to look at gaining information in advance again, both during 77 feedback and maybe opening registration early to get information more in advance? - General feeling that we should continue it if at all possible
Mentoring: - Official mentoring programme launched at the end of August - Around 13 people signed up to be mentors - Almost all mentors signed up with mentees
TF Update: - Plan now to put one slide into HPH's closing plenary presentation. General vibe that we are continuing, that progress is happening, and TF to recheck need for TF. Current feeling is we continue to need it.
RIPE CoC: - Trusted Contacts received training from Hubert Consult, Vesna to send the details to the list - Need to review and improve at this point in time - Especially in regards to the procedure around dealing with reports and who can take the action to remove someone from the meeting? - Sasha has a template for a possible changes to/rewrite of the CoC - Sasha will send an email to the list with the JangoCon Europe information and we can file off the relevant serial numbers - TF to consider how to make updating the CoC and associated procedures easier - Brian & Shane to inform the PC and WG Chairs that this work is ongoing
Helping Other Communities: - Need to look at checklist for NCC sponsored events
Open Action: Gender diversity in speakers and leadership still isn't where we want it to be.
Open Action: UKNOF update not on programme, hopefully for Iceland
Open Action: Vesna will try again to reach Dutch office of Women & Girls in Tech
Open Action: Need to make it easier to change the name of a speaker after submission has been made, NCC working on this for PCSS
Open Action: Amanda was talking to HPH about restricting questions to online submission and led by session chair, so no questions from the mic. HPH interested in the idea.
Suggestion that both pronoun stickers and "Do not photograph" stickers/badges should be available
Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270
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I love the notion of "space chairs"! Autocorrect is wonderful. And it's the PC who needs to know, because we're talking about the Plenary, but I'll give them a heads up anyway. Brian Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 On 19/10/2018, 11:09, "Denesh Bhabuta" <dblists@icloud.com> wrote: I personally do not think it is an issue.. Amanda can easily explain why we are thinking of this and it is only a proposal at this stage.. and Brian can email all the space chairs to confirm this. Regards Denesh > On 19 Oct 2018, at 10:26, Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote: > > Personally I'd prefer if it wasn't on the slide and that you (or Vesna, or both of you, or someone else from the TF) possibly joined the PC on a call to discuss this before announcing it? To be clear, I think with the plan of definitely doing it as a trial, rather than putting it out as just a possibility. > > But, to be very clear, this is just one voice and I could well be being overly paranoid here and the mistake in communication was mine. > > Thanks again, > > Brian > > Brian Nisbet > Network Operations Manager > HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network > 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie > Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 > > > On 19/10/2018, 10:21, "Amanda Gowland" <agowland@ripe.net> wrote: > > Yeah, it is only a proposal so still very much open for discussion. > > Should I keep the slide as is then? > >> On 18/10/2018 16:46, Brian Nisbet wrote: >> So, argh, and this is my fault, I *completely* forgot the 'questions by app' bit in amongst the updates to the PC. So that means it will come as a surprise to the rest of the group at the plenary tomorrow. >> >> I think the easiest thing is for me to send a mail to the PC saying that the TF would like to talk to them/us in more detail about the proposal to see where we can get to and that we will be saying it during the Plenary. Fair warning, and it's only a proposal? >> >> Other than that, I like it, nice and simple. >> >> Brian >> >> Brian Nisbet >> Network Operations Manager >> HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network >> 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie >> Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 >> >> >> On 18/10/2018, 16:44, "diversity on behalf of Amanda Gowland" <diversity-bounces@ripe.net on behalf of agowland@ripe.net> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> See screenshot for the proposed slide for HPH's Closing Plenary >> slot...can you please let me know if there's anything to change? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Amanda >> >>> On 16/10/2018 11:52, Brian Nisbet wrote: >>> Folks, >>> >>> Here are my notes from yesterday's meeting, please let me know if there are any mistakes or omissions. >>> >>> RIPE Diversity TF 20181015 >>> >>> Present: Mirjam, Denesh, Shane, Vesna, Jelte, Salam, Julia, Amdanda, Sasha, E, Brian >>> >>> General Point: Diversity/Inclusivity is more than "just" gender and race. Also around food, travel, cost etc. >>> >>> Metrics: >>> - Shane has updated the metrics based on name of attendees, continuing over time. He will publish the info to the list. RIPE77 seems to have more women attending than the last meeting in Amsterdam, but fewer than the last five meetings. Around 16%. Being checked against NCC self declaration information. >>> - NCC info 10% self identified as female, 25% declined to answer, 1 NB, 2 Other, all other male >>> - SREcon in Düsseldorf, 13% women, 13% declined to answer, 74% men >>> - Shane looking at pulling out AMS meetings to try and get a trend based on same location >>> - Can also get information from t-shirt types and sizes. 103/800 looking for women's cut >>> - Data is all in Github, so others can work on it. >>> - But Shane isn't sure what the right approach/direction is, so hence part of the reason for the BoF on Tuesday. That might give more info on what metrics to track. >>> >>> Action: Shane to send out information and continue to think about the metrics >>> >>> Local Communities: >>> - Vesna contacted some of the hackerspace communities >>> - Hackerspace visit on Wednesday >>> - Need to make a push for RIPE78 >>> - Looking to get school age girls to come, but communications broke down with the relevant local people >>> >>> Childcare: >>> - Only 2 kids registered for RIPE77 >>> - Unfortunately can't be continued if kids aren't being registered >>> - Very visible for RIPE77 registration >>> - Cost now at €10/day >>> - Reduced cost due to local providers >>> - Forecast uncertain for RIPE78 at present >>> - Going to look at gaining information in advance again, both during 77 feedback and maybe opening registration early to get information more in advance? >>> - General feeling that we should continue it if at all possible >>> >>> Mentoring: >>> - Official mentoring programme launched at the end of August >>> - Around 13 people signed up to be mentors >>> - Almost all mentors signed up with mentees >>> >>> TF Update: >>> - Plan now to put one slide into HPH's closing plenary presentation. General vibe that we are continuing, that progress is happening, and TF to recheck need for TF. Current feeling is we continue to need it. >>> >>> RIPE CoC: >>> - Trusted Contacts received training from Hubert Consult, Vesna to send the details to the list >>> - Need to review and improve at this point in time >>> - Especially in regards to the procedure around dealing with reports and who can take the action to remove someone from the meeting? >>> - Sasha has a template for a possible changes to/rewrite of the CoC >>> - Sasha will send an email to the list with the JangoCon Europe information and we can file off the relevant serial numbers >>> - TF to consider how to make updating the CoC and associated procedures easier >>> - Brian & Shane to inform the PC and WG Chairs that this work is ongoing >>> >>> Helping Other Communities: >>> - Need to look at checklist for NCC sponsored events >>> >>> Open Action: Gender diversity in speakers and leadership still isn't where we want it to be. >>> >>> Open Action: UKNOF update not on programme, hopefully for Iceland >>> >>> Open Action: Vesna will try again to reach Dutch office of Women & Girls in Tech >>> >>> Open Action: Need to make it easier to change the name of a speaker after submission has been made, NCC working on this for PCSS >>> >>> Open Action: Amanda was talking to HPH about restricting questions to online submission and led by session chair, so no questions from the mic. HPH interested in the idea. >>> >>> Suggestion that both pronoun stickers and "Do not photograph" stickers/badges should be available >>> >>> Brian Nisbet >>> Network Operations Manager >>> HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network >>> 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie >>> Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> diversity mailing list >>> diversity@ripe.net >>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/diversity >> >> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > diversity mailing list > diversity@ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/diversity
Gah! Yup autocorrect.. apologies.. had not noticed before hitting send. D
On 19 Oct 2018, at 11:13, Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote:
I love the notion of "space chairs"! Autocorrect is wonderful.
And it's the PC who needs to know, because we're talking about the Plenary, but I'll give them a heads up anyway.
Brian
Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270
On 19/10/2018, 11:09, "Denesh Bhabuta" <dblists@icloud.com> wrote:
I personally do not think it is an issue.. Amanda can easily explain why we are thinking of this and it is only a proposal at this stage.. and Brian can email all the space chairs to confirm this.
Regards Denesh
On 19 Oct 2018, at 10:26, Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote:
Personally I'd prefer if it wasn't on the slide and that you (or Vesna, or both of you, or someone else from the TF) possibly joined the PC on a call to discuss this before announcing it? To be clear, I think with the plan of definitely doing it as a trial, rather than putting it out as just a possibility.
But, to be very clear, this is just one voice and I could well be being overly paranoid here and the mistake in communication was mine.
Thanks again,
Brian
Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270
On 19/10/2018, 10:21, "Amanda Gowland" <agowland@ripe.net> wrote:
Yeah, it is only a proposal so still very much open for discussion.
Should I keep the slide as is then?
On 18/10/2018 16:46, Brian Nisbet wrote: So, argh, and this is my fault, I *completely* forgot the 'questions by app' bit in amongst the updates to the PC. So that means it will come as a surprise to the rest of the group at the plenary tomorrow.
I think the easiest thing is for me to send a mail to the PC saying that the TF would like to talk to them/us in more detail about the proposal to see where we can get to and that we will be saying it during the Plenary. Fair warning, and it's only a proposal?
Other than that, I like it, nice and simple.
Brian
Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270
On 18/10/2018, 16:44, "diversity on behalf of Amanda Gowland" <diversity-bounces@ripe.net on behalf of agowland@ripe.net> wrote:
Hi all,
See screenshot for the proposed slide for HPH's Closing Plenary slot...can you please let me know if there's anything to change?
Thanks,
Amanda
On 16/10/2018 11:52, Brian Nisbet wrote: Folks,
Here are my notes from yesterday's meeting, please let me know if there are any mistakes or omissions.
RIPE Diversity TF 20181015
Present: Mirjam, Denesh, Shane, Vesna, Jelte, Salam, Julia, Amdanda, Sasha, E, Brian
General Point: Diversity/Inclusivity is more than "just" gender and race. Also around food, travel, cost etc.
Metrics: - Shane has updated the metrics based on name of attendees, continuing over time. He will publish the info to the list. RIPE77 seems to have more women attending than the last meeting in Amsterdam, but fewer than the last five meetings. Around 16%. Being checked against NCC self declaration information. - NCC info 10% self identified as female, 25% declined to answer, 1 NB, 2 Other, all other male - SREcon in Düsseldorf, 13% women, 13% declined to answer, 74% men - Shane looking at pulling out AMS meetings to try and get a trend based on same location - Can also get information from t-shirt types and sizes. 103/800 looking for women's cut - Data is all in Github, so others can work on it. - But Shane isn't sure what the right approach/direction is, so hence part of the reason for the BoF on Tuesday. That might give more info on what metrics to track.
Action: Shane to send out information and continue to think about the metrics
Local Communities: - Vesna contacted some of the hackerspace communities - Hackerspace visit on Wednesday - Need to make a push for RIPE78 - Looking to get school age girls to come, but communications broke down with the relevant local people
Childcare: - Only 2 kids registered for RIPE77 - Unfortunately can't be continued if kids aren't being registered - Very visible for RIPE77 registration - Cost now at €10/day - Reduced cost due to local providers - Forecast uncertain for RIPE78 at present - Going to look at gaining information in advance again, both during 77 feedback and maybe opening registration early to get information more in advance? - General feeling that we should continue it if at all possible
Mentoring: - Official mentoring programme launched at the end of August - Around 13 people signed up to be mentors - Almost all mentors signed up with mentees
TF Update: - Plan now to put one slide into HPH's closing plenary presentation. General vibe that we are continuing, that progress is happening, and TF to recheck need for TF. Current feeling is we continue to need it.
RIPE CoC: - Trusted Contacts received training from Hubert Consult, Vesna to send the details to the list - Need to review and improve at this point in time - Especially in regards to the procedure around dealing with reports and who can take the action to remove someone from the meeting? - Sasha has a template for a possible changes to/rewrite of the CoC - Sasha will send an email to the list with the JangoCon Europe information and we can file off the relevant serial numbers - TF to consider how to make updating the CoC and associated procedures easier - Brian & Shane to inform the PC and WG Chairs that this work is ongoing
Helping Other Communities: - Need to look at checklist for NCC sponsored events
Open Action: Gender diversity in speakers and leadership still isn't where we want it to be.
Open Action: UKNOF update not on programme, hopefully for Iceland
Open Action: Vesna will try again to reach Dutch office of Women & Girls in Tech
Open Action: Need to make it easier to change the name of a speaker after submission has been made, NCC working on this for PCSS
Open Action: Amanda was talking to HPH about restricting questions to online submission and led by session chair, so no questions from the mic. HPH interested in the idea.
Suggestion that both pronoun stickers and "Do not photograph" stickers/badges should be available
Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270
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An amazing presentation and a great delivery Amanda!!! Thank you for doing this! Gergana On 18/10/2018 16:46, Brian Nisbet wrote:
So, argh, and this is my fault, I *completely* forgot the 'questions by app' bit in amongst the updates to the PC. So that means it will come as a surprise to the rest of the group at the plenary tomorrow.
I think the easiest thing is for me to send a mail to the PC saying that the TF would like to talk to them/us in more detail about the proposal to see where we can get to and that we will be saying it during the Plenary. Fair warning, and it's only a proposal?
Other than that, I like it, nice and simple.
Brian
Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270
On 18/10/2018, 16:44, "diversity on behalf of Amanda Gowland" <diversity-bounces@ripe.net on behalf of agowland@ripe.net> wrote:
Hi all,
See screenshot for the proposed slide for HPH's Closing Plenary slot...can you please let me know if there's anything to change?
Thanks,
Amanda
On 16/10/2018 11:52, Brian Nisbet wrote: > Folks, > > Here are my notes from yesterday's meeting, please let me know if there are any mistakes or omissions. > > RIPE Diversity TF 20181015 > > Present: Mirjam, Denesh, Shane, Vesna, Jelte, Salam, Julia, Amdanda, Sasha, E, Brian > > General Point: Diversity/Inclusivity is more than "just" gender and race. Also around food, travel, cost etc. > > Metrics: > - Shane has updated the metrics based on name of attendees, continuing over time. He will publish the info to the list. RIPE77 seems to have more women attending than the last meeting in Amsterdam, but fewer than the last five meetings. Around 16%. Being checked against NCC self declaration information. > - NCC info 10% self identified as female, 25% declined to answer, 1 NB, 2 Other, all other male > - SREcon in Düsseldorf, 13% women, 13% declined to answer, 74% men > - Shane looking at pulling out AMS meetings to try and get a trend based on same location > - Can also get information from t-shirt types and sizes. 103/800 looking for women's cut > - Data is all in Github, so others can work on it. > - But Shane isn't sure what the right approach/direction is, so hence part of the reason for the BoF on Tuesday. That might give more info on what metrics to track. > > Action: Shane to send out information and continue to think about the metrics > > Local Communities: > - Vesna contacted some of the hackerspace communities > - Hackerspace visit on Wednesday > - Need to make a push for RIPE78 > - Looking to get school age girls to come, but communications broke down with the relevant local people > > Childcare: > - Only 2 kids registered for RIPE77 > - Unfortunately can't be continued if kids aren't being registered > - Very visible for RIPE77 registration > - Cost now at €10/day > - Reduced cost due to local providers > - Forecast uncertain for RIPE78 at present > - Going to look at gaining information in advance again, both during 77 feedback and maybe opening registration early to get information more in advance? > - General feeling that we should continue it if at all possible > > Mentoring: > - Official mentoring programme launched at the end of August > - Around 13 people signed up to be mentors > - Almost all mentors signed up with mentees > > TF Update: > - Plan now to put one slide into HPH's closing plenary presentation. General vibe that we are continuing, that progress is happening, and TF to recheck need for TF. Current feeling is we continue to need it. > > RIPE CoC: > - Trusted Contacts received training from Hubert Consult, Vesna to send the details to the list > - Need to review and improve at this point in time > - Especially in regards to the procedure around dealing with reports and who can take the action to remove someone from the meeting? > - Sasha has a template for a possible changes to/rewrite of the CoC > - Sasha will send an email to the list with the JangoCon Europe information and we can file off the relevant serial numbers > - TF to consider how to make updating the CoC and associated procedures easier > - Brian & Shane to inform the PC and WG Chairs that this work is ongoing > > Helping Other Communities: > - Need to look at checklist for NCC sponsored events > > Open Action: Gender diversity in speakers and leadership still isn't where we want it to be. > > Open Action: UKNOF update not on programme, hopefully for Iceland > > Open Action: Vesna will try again to reach Dutch office of Women & Girls in Tech > > Open Action: Need to make it easier to change the name of a speaker after submission has been made, NCC working on this for PCSS > > Open Action: Amanda was talking to HPH about restricting questions to online submission and led by session chair, so no questions from the mic. HPH interested in the idea. > > Suggestion that both pronoun stickers and "Do not photograph" stickers/badges should be available > > Brian Nisbet > Network Operations Manager > HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network > 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie > Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 > > > _______________________________________________ > diversity mailing list > diversity@ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/diversity
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*enthusiastic applause* Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 On 19/10/2018, 11:55, "diversity on behalf of Gergana Petrova" <diversity-bounces@ripe.net on behalf of gpetrova@ripe.net> wrote: An amazing presentation and a great delivery Amanda!!! Thank you for doing this! Gergana On 18/10/2018 16:46, Brian Nisbet wrote: > So, argh, and this is my fault, I *completely* forgot the 'questions by app' bit in amongst the updates to the PC. So that means it will come as a surprise to the rest of the group at the plenary tomorrow. > > I think the easiest thing is for me to send a mail to the PC saying that the TF would like to talk to them/us in more detail about the proposal to see where we can get to and that we will be saying it during the Plenary. Fair warning, and it's only a proposal? > > Other than that, I like it, nice and simple. > > Brian > > Brian Nisbet > Network Operations Manager > HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network > 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie > Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 > > > On 18/10/2018, 16:44, "diversity on behalf of Amanda Gowland" <diversity-bounces@ripe.net on behalf of agowland@ripe.net> wrote: > > Hi all, > > See screenshot for the proposed slide for HPH's Closing Plenary > slot...can you please let me know if there's anything to change? > > Thanks, > > Amanda > > On 16/10/2018 11:52, Brian Nisbet wrote: > > Folks, > > > > Here are my notes from yesterday's meeting, please let me know if there are any mistakes or omissions. > > > > RIPE Diversity TF 20181015 > > > > Present: Mirjam, Denesh, Shane, Vesna, Jelte, Salam, Julia, Amdanda, Sasha, E, Brian > > > > General Point: Diversity/Inclusivity is more than "just" gender and race. Also around food, travel, cost etc. > > > > Metrics: > > - Shane has updated the metrics based on name of attendees, continuing over time. He will publish the info to the list. RIPE77 seems to have more women attending than the last meeting in Amsterdam, but fewer than the last five meetings. Around 16%. Being checked against NCC self declaration information. > > - NCC info 10% self identified as female, 25% declined to answer, 1 NB, 2 Other, all other male > > - SREcon in Düsseldorf, 13% women, 13% declined to answer, 74% men > > - Shane looking at pulling out AMS meetings to try and get a trend based on same location > > - Can also get information from t-shirt types and sizes. 103/800 looking for women's cut > > - Data is all in Github, so others can work on it. > > - But Shane isn't sure what the right approach/direction is, so hence part of the reason for the BoF on Tuesday. That might give more info on what metrics to track. > > > > Action: Shane to send out information and continue to think about the metrics > > > > Local Communities: > > - Vesna contacted some of the hackerspace communities > > - Hackerspace visit on Wednesday > > - Need to make a push for RIPE78 > > - Looking to get school age girls to come, but communications broke down with the relevant local people > > > > Childcare: > > - Only 2 kids registered for RIPE77 > > - Unfortunately can't be continued if kids aren't being registered > > - Very visible for RIPE77 registration > > - Cost now at €10/day > > - Reduced cost due to local providers > > - Forecast uncertain for RIPE78 at present > > - Going to look at gaining information in advance again, both during 77 feedback and maybe opening registration early to get information more in advance? > > - General feeling that we should continue it if at all possible > > > > Mentoring: > > - Official mentoring programme launched at the end of August > > - Around 13 people signed up to be mentors > > - Almost all mentors signed up with mentees > > > > TF Update: > > - Plan now to put one slide into HPH's closing plenary presentation. General vibe that we are continuing, that progress is happening, and TF to recheck need for TF. Current feeling is we continue to need it. > > > > RIPE CoC: > > - Trusted Contacts received training from Hubert Consult, Vesna to send the details to the list > > - Need to review and improve at this point in time > > - Especially in regards to the procedure around dealing with reports and who can take the action to remove someone from the meeting? > > - Sasha has a template for a possible changes to/rewrite of the CoC > > - Sasha will send an email to the list with the JangoCon Europe information and we can file off the relevant serial numbers > > - TF to consider how to make updating the CoC and associated procedures easier > > - Brian & Shane to inform the PC and WG Chairs that this work is ongoing > > > > Helping Other Communities: > > - Need to look at checklist for NCC sponsored events > > > > Open Action: Gender diversity in speakers and leadership still isn't where we want it to be. > > > > Open Action: UKNOF update not on programme, hopefully for Iceland > > > > Open Action: Vesna will try again to reach Dutch office of Women & Girls in Tech > > > > Open Action: Need to make it easier to change the name of a speaker after submission has been made, NCC working on this for PCSS > > > > Open Action: Amanda was talking to HPH about restricting questions to online submission and led by session chair, so no questions from the mic. HPH interested in the idea. > > > > Suggestion that both pronoun stickers and "Do not photograph" stickers/badges should be available > > > > Brian Nisbet > > Network Operations Manager > > HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network > > 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie > > Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > diversity mailing list > > diversity@ripe.net > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/diversity > > > > > _______________________________________________ > diversity mailing list > diversity@ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/diversity > _______________________________________________ diversity mailing list diversity@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/diversity
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