Hello In this case I can also raise my concern. A lot of non EU citizens are rejected to receive Shengen visa and are not able to participate in Ripe Meetings in person. What should say COC in this matter? Best Regards Ella Titova -----Original Message----- From: diversity [mailto:diversity-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Hank Nussbacher Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 9:50 PM To: diversity@ripe.net Subject: [diversity] Meeting venue influences inclusivity I have read over the draft V3 CoC and notice an aspect that has bothered me and which precludes me and others from attending general RIPE meetings in certain venues. RIPE 75 took place in Dubai, UAE. Any Israeli citizen is not allowed to enter Dubai: http://www.dubaifaqs.com/israeli-stamp-passport-dubai.php "Israeli citizens are not permitted to enter the UAE on an Israeli passport or apply for a UAE visa" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93United_Arab_Emirates_relations "As the UAE does not officially recognize Israel, and does not allow Israeli citizens or those suspected of being Israeli citizens entry into the UAE, including Israeli passport holders, except for transit." If a CoC is being drafted and the intent is to be inclusive as possible and to eliminate discrimination based on nationality, I would like to suggest that it include a section that the venue of any general RIPE meeting cannot take place in a country that forbids certain people from attending. Regards, Hank _______________________________________________ diversity mailing list diversity@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/diversity This email and the files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or the entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please refrain from disseminating, distributing, copying or anyhow dealing with it and inform the sending party on the incidence.

While I fully agree with your intent (not having meeting in countries with restrict certain people), the editorial way we can have that text needs to be carefully considered. Otherwise, we may be trap in "not having meetings", because there is *always* restrictions for people to be in (almost) every country. For example, I need a visa for meeting un Russia. If for whatever reason I get it denied, should the meeting be cancelled? Saludos, Jordi @jordipalet El 21/10/19 19:50, "diversity en nombre de Hank Nussbacher" <diversity-bounces@ripe.net en nombre de hank@efes.iucc.ac.il> escribió: I have read over the draft V3 CoC and notice an aspect that has bothered me and which precludes me and others from attending general RIPE meetings in certain venues. RIPE 75 took place in Dubai, UAE. Any Israeli citizen is not allowed to enter Dubai: http://www.dubaifaqs.com/israeli-stamp-passport-dubai.php "Israeli citizens are not permitted to enter the UAE on an Israeli passport or apply for a UAE visa" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93United_Arab_Emirates_relations "As the UAE does not officially recognize Israel, and does not allow Israeli citizens or those suspected of being Israeli citizens entry into the UAE, including Israeli passport holders, except for transit." If a CoC is being drafted and the intent is to be inclusive as possible and to eliminate discrimination based on nationality, I would like to suggest that it include a section that the venue of any general RIPE meeting cannot take place in a country that forbids certain people from attending. Regards, Hank _______________________________________________ diversity mailing list diversity@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/diversity ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.