haha - double-posted. Literally had just hit "send" when I saw Brian's response come through. Great minds think alike and all that ;) On 10/05/2019 10:53, Amanda Gowland wrote:
Hi Mark,
There is already text in the RIPE Meeting T&C that says:
4.7 The Registrant acknowledges, understands and agrees that at the Meeting people from different experiences, backgrounds and views exchange ideas in a respectful manner and it is expected from all participants, including the Registrant, to demonstrate tolerance and respect to everyone. If the Registrant fails to act accordingly, the RIPE NCC reserves the right to exclude the Registrant’s attendance from the Meeting, without being liable to pay any refund of the price of the Ticket or any other damages.
I can discuss with our legal team if the wording here needs to be more explicit around the CoC here.
Thanks,
Amanda
On 10/05/2019 10:49, Mark Prior wrote:
On 10/5/19 18:07, Brian Nisbet wrote:
Mark,
-----Original Message----- From: diversity <diversity-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Mark Prior Sent: Thursday 9 May 2019 13:36 To: Sasha Romijn <sasha@mxsasha.eu>; diversity@ripe.net Subject: Re: [diversity] Draft CoC and response guide
On 9/5/19 21:52, Sasha Romijn wrote:
Thanks for all the feedback! As far as I’m concerned, the document is now ready to be presented to others, unless any other members would like to comment.
Just a comment from the peanut gallery.
How do the organisers derive their authority to take actions, especially those that deprive the violator of something, such as exclusion from an event without a refund, and how well will this stack up against the appropriate law?
Article 4.7 of the RIPE Meeting Terms & Conditions ( https://www.ripe.net/about-us/legal/ripe-meeting-registration-terms-and-cond... ) states:
"4.7 The Registrant acknowledges, understands and agrees that at the Meeting people from different experiences, backgrounds and views exchange ideas in a respectful manner and it is expected from all participants, including the Registrant, to demonstrate tolerance and respect to everyone. If the Registrant fails to act accordingly, the RIPE NCC reserves the right to exclude the Registrant’s attendance from the Meeting, without being liable to pay any refund of the price of the Ticket or any other damages."
So that's pretty clear. It can be easily amended to specifically mention the CoC when we get to that point.
I would still see a need to tie the people saying someone has breeched the T&C's and this is their penalty to the "RIPE NCC". It could be just saying that the organisers are acting on behalf of the RIPE NCC.
Mark.
PS I was an organiser at AusNOG and some of the board took the "nuclear" CoC option and went to a lawyer to craft one. I didn't agree with that approach but the concern was ensuing the legal position was strong.
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