Hi, 1. Very sensitive data to collect. Really must be reviewed thoroughly by legal on how to collect, store and use such information. I personally would feel very uncomfortable answering any of these questions! 2. Is it really that wise to even have that survey prior to a meeting in UAE? It is illegal to be gay or transvestite there (unless something changed recently)...not the most appropriate questions when registering to visit a place where one if present will transgress local laws. Cheers, David David Hilario IP Manager Larus Cloud Service Limited p: +852 29888918 m: +359 89 764 1784 f: +852 29888068 a: Flat B5, 11/F, TML Tower, No.3 Hoi Shing Road, Tsuen Wan, HKSAR w: laruscloudservice.net e: d.hilario@laruscloudservice.net On 2 June 2017 at 16:49, Amanda Gowland <agowland@ripe.net> wrote:
Hi Denis,
Thanks for your feedback.
On 02/06/17 15:32, denis walker wrote:
Hi All
I am a bit late in getting into this group, but had a few pointers/concerns sent to me.
I am not sure what the goals are with trying to measure all these metrics - gender, sexuality, religion, race, class. What are you going to do if you find only 1% of attendees are gay? Are you going to offer incentives to gay people attending to increase it to the population average?
Did you watch the presentation from the plenary session on Friday morning or read the RIPE Labs article? Those might be a good place to start for some background info/context.
I am also DEEPLY concerned at the rush to get some question(s) on the registration form for RIPE 75. What you are asking for is the most sensitive and personal information people can give. With some of the countries in our region, if this information gets into the wrong hands it can cost lives. There are serious, serious, serious privacy concerns here.
Agree that it's sensitive info, which is why we want it to be opt-in...and the scope of the questions we'll include is being discussed.
Amanda said "This data will only be used anonymously for metric benchmarking."
Taken out of context a bit here, Denis. I wasn't making a statement, I was suggesting options on text to include for background information.
Sorry, but before we get to how this data is going to be used:
-how is it going to be collected -who is going to collect it -how and where will it be stored -who has access to the raw data -how will the sensitive data be harvested from the personally identifiable data -are there Dutch/EU data protection issues with collecting/storing this data in an identifiable way
We have a legal team that will be involved before anything is announced or implemented. This thread is merely to find out the scope of a question we *could* include on the form *if possible* in time for RIPE 75.
This is not something you announce on a Thursday with a deadline for a decision on Monday. I hope a lot more thought and care will be applied to potentially life threatening personal information.
Nothing's been announced. I was asking for input to include in our discussion with SWE on Tuesday.
cheers denis
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