Hi Benno, On 9 May 2019, at 14:39, Benno Overeinder <benno@NLnetLabs.nl> wrote:
I have added two comments in the Google Doc. Feel free to remove or ignore them.
Regarding required vs expected in the first paragraph - yes, required is a stronger term, but that’s on purpose? I don’t think we’d want to weaken how binding the CoC is. It’s not a “please try to follow this”, it is a “you must follow this if you want to participate”. Regarding "Pushing a person to drink alcohol when they don’t want to drink, or deceiving someone into drinking alcohol.”, I added that intentionally for WTD in recent drafts. I imagine more questions might be asked about it, so I wanted to explain it in some detail. The reason I added it is that tech has a fairly heavy alcohol drinking culture. Excessive alcohol use is a major instigator for serious CoC incidents, and this is increased by the peer pressure of drinking alcohol. By making events more pleasant for people who don’t drink, can’t drink, or don’t want to drink more, the event becomes more welcoming to all and overall alcohol use reduces, reducing risk of CoC violations. I personally routinely also hear that people who can’t or don’t drink at all don’t want to attend social events, because they think they’ll be hassled or pressured about not drinking. It is normal for me to leave social events early because most of the attendees are drunk to a level that I don’t want to be myself, and it’s just no fun, and less safe for me. The part about deceiving people about alcohol use does also happen. People to whom alcohol is very normal and even expected to be “fun” do not always realise that deceiving someone into drinking is potentially life- threatening in some people. It doesn’t happen often, but it is part of the drinking culture, and the impact can be very severe - so that’s why I added it so explicitly. As an example, last year I was at a conference and warned them about their setup being likely to cause excessive alcohol use. They ignored my concerns, and I decided to leave the party when I saw one attendee nearly breaking their neck in reckless behaviour which organisers did not intervene in, and an attendee trying to set another attendee’s clothes on fire with a lighter. I don’t think I’ll ever go back to that event. (I’m not aware of anything this bad happening at RIPE meetings.) I wrote more about alcohol culture here: https://medium.com/@mxsash/how-to-build-a-better-alcohol-culture-at-your-tec... <https://medium.com/@mxsash/how-to-build-a-better-alcohol-culture-at-your-tech-conferences-and-events-9e1cce7179c0> Sasha