Dear all, here's my input, as a person with multiple roles (community member, RIPE NCC staff, a women-in-tech, a trained member of "trusted contacts" team, and a trained mediator... among other roles...). Reminder: link to draft code of conduct (I had to search for it..) : https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/ripe-meetings/ripe-meeting-code-of... Addressing only one aspect of Daniel's contribution: On 05/06/2019 10:34, Daniel Karrenberg wrote:
I am very deeply concerned about the part of this draft that creates a very vaguely described 'enforcement committee' without any responsibility to anyone and without any process whatsoever.
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RIPE is not a conference but a community that with a significant governance aspect.
It is my personal understanding that the "response team" will be formed in the similar ways that other "power structures" within RIPE community are created: - consisting OF the members of the community - selected (somehow) BY the members of the community - accountable TO the community This is how we (RIPE) choose working-group chairs and program committee members, too. We have mechanisms in place - and we *could* use the similar mechanisms. I have re-read both documents, and they do not cover the formation of "response team". I suggest that we add some such text to this document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gaLo4axYDRTpQnhUJyG92EHBmEIkxSDN8Urmy-zn... part of the text from here: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-600 (Charter of The RIPE Programme Committee) or here: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-692 (RIPE Working Group Chair Job Description and Procedures) In my opinion, that would give transparency, accountability, and clear "mandate" for this new "committee". It would also give a sense of continuity and a referral to "this is how we are used to do things". Daniel -- would this bring some reassurance to you, about the process? "task force", what do you think of this idea? Any volunteer to chose the _actual_ text?? As for the "where are the boundaries of the shared responsibilities":
Further I recommend to develop a response plan that defines who is responsible to take action in cases where individuals do not stop inappropriate behavior once it is pointed out to them. These responsibilities do exist today within our governance structure. They are shared between RIPE, RIPE NCC and third parties such as the owners/operators of our venues. Maybe this needs to be clarified and we may need to establish roles within these structures that are responsible to follow up on any actions.
I agree -- if there is a need for more clarity, then the proposed documentation might benefit from some improvements -- that's why we are still in the process of gathering input from multiple sides.
But let us not create a new committee whose sole purpose is to sanction community members without any process!
With this I disagree -- specially the part "without any process" -- because *the process* is very clearly defined in the documents: - the team members will receive training & guidance - the team members are following a detailed document about which "resolutions" are appropriate for which "incident" - the team members will consult each other & make decisions together In addition to the "letter", there is also a "spirit", IMO: - the team members are part of the community - they are contributing their efforts as volunteers - their intentions are to bring additional benefits to the community (to create safer atmosphere, to make it more comfortable to participate, to enable the inclusion of more diverse opinions and experiences, that in turn achieves more creativity in solutions -- with the final goal of making better decisions, creating better policies, products, procedures, BCPs, agreements, standards... ) I see, I got carried away with my dreams for the future of RIPE community :) I hope some of you find my suggestions practical, and I am interested in proposals on - how do we proceed? I wish that we have next results for the RIPE79 -- these meetings are natural milestones -- so can we have the next TF (online) meeting soon, to agree on the next steps and who will take on the action items? Regards, Vesna