Hello DB WG, As RIPE has been handing out new ASNs from previous allocations that have been returned for several months now, I wanted to ask if there’s any plan to clean up an entry somehow before reassigning the AS. With the current system you can request an AS, get it, and then have ROAs (ASPAs too?) / route{6,} / as-set objects, etc. from the previous one or more owners. I recently got an AS with valid ROAs and route objects for some IPv4 still pointed its way from a couple of operators ago (according to the bgp.tools history). For bonus points, it’s also included in a DE-CIX IXF feed and shows up as connected there :) Does it make sense to clean up objects or notify entities including an AS upon its return back to the available pool? Since you can’t really know who will get it and when, it’s unlikely you really mean to authorize announcements with a ROA, or IRR routes. It also probably doesn’t make any logical sense to include it in an as-set. I stumbled upon this when I tried generating filters with bgpq* and it added a few unknown /22s without me recognizing them. Pim here (in Cc) also had the same question :) Thanks, Antonis
Quick followup: It probably happens with IPs / inet{6,}num objects too.
On 28 Jan 2026, at 21:26, Antonis Chariton via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
Hello DB WG,
As RIPE has been handing out new ASNs from previous allocations that have been returned for several months now, I wanted to ask if there’s any plan to clean up an entry somehow before reassigning the AS.
With the current system you can request an AS, get it, and then have ROAs (ASPAs too?) / route{6,} / as-set objects, etc. from the previous one or more owners.
I recently got an AS with valid ROAs and route objects for some IPv4 still pointed its way from a couple of operators ago (according to the bgp.tools history).
For bonus points, it’s also included in a DE-CIX IXF feed and shows up as connected there :)
Does it make sense to clean up objects or notify entities including an AS upon its return back to the available pool? Since you can’t really know who will get it and when, it’s unlikely you really mean to authorize announcements with a ROA, or IRR routes. It also probably doesn’t make any logical sense to include it in an as-set.
I stumbled upon this when I tried generating filters with bgpq* and it added a few unknown /22s without me recognizing them. Pim here (in Cc) also had the same question :)
Thanks, Antonis ----- To unsubscribe from this mailing list or change your subscription options, please visit: https://mailman.ripe.net/mailman3/lists/db-wg.ripe.net/ As we have migrated to Mailman 3, you will need to create an account with the email matching your subscription before you can change your settings. More details at: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/mailman-3-migration/
participants (1)
-
Antonis Chariton