Re: [db-wg] New free text search for RIPE Database
At 14:13 10/11/2010 +0100, Denis Walker wrote: Old thread: In the old system one could find all objects that had a specific person listed. In the new system, you state that you don't index role or person objects but you also don't index the strings tech-c or admin-c inside inetnum objects for example. This makes it then impossible to find what objects a person is listed on. Imagine someone retires and you want to change all his/her objects that list them - it used to be able to be done with the old free text search. The new one doesn't allow it. Regards, Hank
Dear Hank
Currently this new search is only a prototype. But it works much more effectively than the search you referenced below. It is more powerful, has more features and can be more easily scaled and adapted to changing underlying data. The current search, based on glimpse, is end of life. If the prototype meets users needs then we will replace glimpse with this new service.
Regards Denis Walker Business Analyst RIPE NCC Database Group
Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 12:19 10/11/2010 +0100, Mirjam Kuehne wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Our RIPE Database developers implemented a new free text search for the RIPE Database. Read details on RIPE Labs:
http://labs.ripe.net/Members/Paul_P_/full-text-search-in-the-ripe-database
Is this meant to replace?: http://www.ripe.net/db/whois-free.html
Regards, Hank
Hi Hank, Have you tried using the -i flag on a regular whois query? That should list all objects that reference a specific person in either tech-c, admin-c, zone-c or author. MarcoH On 14 sep 2011, at 07:16, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 14:13 10/11/2010 +0100, Denis Walker wrote:
Old thread:
In the old system one could find all objects that had a specific person listed. In the new system, you state that you don't index role or person objects but you also don't index the strings tech-c or admin-c inside inetnum objects for example. This makes it then impossible to find what objects a person is listed on. Imagine someone retires and you want to change all his/her objects that list them - it used to be able to be done with the old free text search. The new one doesn't allow it.
Regards, Hank
Dear Hank
Currently this new search is only a prototype. But it works much more effectively than the search you referenced below. It is more powerful, has more features and can be more easily scaled and adapted to changing underlying data. The current search, based on glimpse, is end of life. If the prototype meets users needs then we will replace glimpse with this new service.
Regards Denis Walker Business Analyst RIPE NCC Database Group
Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 12:19 10/11/2010 +0100, Mirjam Kuehne wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Our RIPE Database developers implemented a new free text search for the RIPE Database. Read details on RIPE Labs:
http://labs.ripe.net/Members/Paul_P_/full-text-search-in-the-ripe-database
Is this meant to replace?: http://www.ripe.net/db/whois-free.html
Regards, Hank
Grtx, MarcoH -- "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again"
At 07:57 14/09/2011 +0200, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
Hi Hank,
Have you tried using the -i flag on a regular whois query? That should list all objects that reference a specific person in either tech-c, admin-c, zone-c or author.
-i requires <attribute-name> and only then <inverse-key>. I want a free text search to find every place a string appears. Your method requires 3 seperate searches. -Hank
MarcoH
On 14 sep 2011, at 07:16, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 14:13 10/11/2010 +0100, Denis Walker wrote:
Old thread:
In the old system one could find all objects that had a specific person listed. In the new system, you state that you don't index role or person objects but you also don't index the strings tech-c or admin-c inside inetnum objects for example. This makes it then impossible to find what objects a person is listed on. Imagine someone retires and you want to change all his/her objects that list them - it used to be able to be done with the old free text search. The new one doesn't allow it.
Regards, Hank
Dear Hank
Currently this new search is only a prototype. But it works much more effectively than the search you referenced below. It is more powerful, has more features and can be more easily scaled and adapted to changing underlying data. The current search, based on glimpse, is end of life. If the prototype meets users needs then we will replace glimpse with this new service.
Regards Denis Walker Business Analyst RIPE NCC Database Group
Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 12:19 10/11/2010 +0100, Mirjam Kuehne wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Our RIPE Database developers implemented a new free text search for the RIPE Database. Read details on RIPE Labs:
http://labs.ripe.net/Members/Paul_P_/full-text-search-in-the-ripe-database
Is this meant to replace?: http://www.ripe.net/db/whois-free.html
Regards, Hank
Grtx,
MarcoH
-- "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again"
Dear Hank,
Have you tried using the -i flag on a regular whois query? That should list all objects that reference a specific person in either tech-c, admin-c, zone-c or author.
-i requires <attribute-name> and only then <inverse-key>. I want a free text search to find every place a string appears. Your method requires 3 seperate searches.
The -i query is quite versatile. "-i pn" will query admin-c, tech-z, zone-c and author attributes, see: https://www.ripe.net/data-tools/support/documentation/ripe-database-query-re... Best regards, Alex Le Heux RIPE NCC
-Hank
MarcoH
On 14 sep 2011, at 07:16, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 14:13 10/11/2010 +0100, Denis Walker wrote:
Old thread:
In the old system one could find all objects that had a specific person listed. In the new system, you state that you don't index role or person objects but you also don't index the strings tech-c or admin-c inside inetnum objects for example. This makes it then impossible to find what objects a person is listed on. Imagine someone retires and you want to change all his/her objects that list them - it used to be able to be done with the old free text search. The new one doesn't allow it.
Regards, Hank
Dear Hank
Currently this new search is only a prototype. But it works much more effectively than the search you referenced below. It is more powerful, has more features and can be more easily scaled and adapted to changing underlying data. The current search, based on glimpse, is end of life. If the prototype meets users needs then we will replace glimpse with this new service.
Regards Denis Walker Business Analyst RIPE NCC Database Group
Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 12:19 10/11/2010 +0100, Mirjam Kuehne wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Our RIPE Database developers implemented a new free text search for the RIPE Database. Read details on RIPE Labs:
http://labs.ripe.net/Members/Paul_P_/full-text-search-in-the-ripe-database
Is this meant to replace?: http://www.ripe.net/db/whois-free.html
Regards, Hank
Grtx,
MarcoH
-- "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again"
At 09:30 14/09/2011 +0200, Alex Le Heux wrote:
Dear Hank,
Have you tried using the -i flag on a regular whois query? That should list all objects that reference a specific person in either tech-c, admin-c, zone-c or author.
-i requires <attribute-name> and only then <inverse-key>. I want a free text search to find every place a string appears. Your method requires 3 seperate searches.
The -i query is quite versatile.
"-i pn" will query admin-c, tech-z, zone-c and author attributes, see:
https://www.ripe.net/data-tools/support/documentation/ripe-database-query-re...
Thanks, Hank
Best regards,
Alex Le Heux RIPE NCC
-Hank
MarcoH
On 14 sep 2011, at 07:16, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 14:13 10/11/2010 +0100, Denis Walker wrote:
Old thread:
In the old system one could find all objects that had a specific person listed. In the new system, you state that you don't index role or person objects but you also don't index the strings tech-c or admin-c inside inetnum objects for example. This makes it then impossible to find what objects a person is listed on. Imagine someone retires and you want to change all his/her objects that list them - it used to be able to be done with the old free text search. The new one doesn't allow it.
Regards, Hank
Dear Hank
Currently this new search is only a prototype. But it works much more effectively than the search you referenced below. It is more powerful, has more features and can be more easily scaled and adapted to changing underlying data. The current search, based on glimpse, is end of life. If the prototype meets users needs then we will replace glimpse with this new service.
Regards Denis Walker Business Analyst RIPE NCC Database Group
Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 12:19 10/11/2010 +0100, Mirjam Kuehne wrote:
> Dear colleagues, > > Our RIPE Database developers implemented a new free text search for > the RIPE Database. Read details on RIPE Labs: > > http://labs.ripe.net/Members/Paul_P_/full-text-search-in-the-ripe-database >
Is this meant to replace?: http://www.ripe.net/db/whois-free.html
Regards, Hank
Grtx,
MarcoH
-- "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again"
Hi all,
The -i query is quite versatile.
"-i pn" will query admin-c, tech-z, zone-c and author attributes, see:
While the -i is really a great feture, there are occasions when free text search would be of great benefit. For example, looking for references to AS number or AS name in as-set objects... Having free text search should not depcrecate the -i flag though. Br, Tolli
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