country attribute in aut-num
Hello, I ran into an issue today that was the inability to have a country attribute in the aut-num object, despite having a country code in the delegated file. I would like to see it added to WHOIS. - Cynthia
Cynthia Revström via db-wg wrote on 23/10/2019 19:42:
I would like to see it added to WHOIS.
what would you like it to mean? Nick
I don't quite get what you mean, but I would like a country attribute in the RIPE DB that is equivalent to the value in the delegated file such as the following entry for my ASN. ripencc|SE|asn|57782|1|20180925|allocated|e16ee9ac-51d0-4ca5-9ff1-f06d4ef5fd74 https://ftp.ripe.net/pub/stats/ripencc/delegated-ripencc-extended-latest - Cynthia On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:02 PM Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> wrote:
Cynthia Revström via db-wg wrote on 23/10/2019 19:42:
I would like to see it added to WHOIS.
what would you like it to mean?
Nick
Cynthia Revström wrote on 23/10/2019 20:17:
I don't quite get what you mean, but I would like a country attribute in the RIPE DB that is equivalent to the value in the delegated file such as the following entry for my ASN.
ripencc|SE|asn|57782|1|20180925|allocated|e16ee9ac-51d0-4ca5-9ff1-f06d4ef5fd74
https://ftp.ripe.net/pub/stats/ripencc/delegated-ripencc-extended-latest
the entry in the delegated file shows the country where the legal entity which holds the resource is located. The reason that there's a country code for inetnums is that the internet was once small and prefixes tended to be localised to a single country. The same was never true for ASNs, which is why the aut-num object doesn't have a country field. I.e. even in the early days of the internet, there were plenty of ASNs which spanned several countries. The inetnum country code is mostly meaningless these days. Occasionally it's used for geolocation, but it's a pretty poor way of working that out. I'm not sure how meaningful having a country-code for inetnums is. Maybe it's a bit meaningful, but it's hard to be sure. It's even harder for aut-nums. What's your use case btw? Nick
Sure? The RIPE NCC support can change the country on request :-) On 23.10.19 21:27, Nick Hilliard via db-wg wrote:
the entry in the delegated file shows the country where the legal entity which holds the resource is located.
Hi Cynthia The country attribute in the INET(6)NUM objects is totally meaningless. The resource holder can set it to anything they want. Maybe it is the country their grandmother was born in. It is that useful. NWI-10, which was agreed at RIPE 79, will create a country attribute in the ORGANISATION object that reflects the country shown in the extended stats. This will be referenced by all resource objects including the AUT-NUM. It will be managed by the RIPE NCC and will always reflect the value in the extended stats file. cheersdenis co-chair DB-WG On Wednesday, 23 October 2019, 21:17:40 CEST, Cynthia Revström via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote: I don't quite get what you mean, but I would like a country attribute in the RIPE DB that is equivalent to the value in the delegated file such as the following entry for my ASN.ripencc|SE|asn|57782|1|20180925|allocated|e16ee9ac-51d0-4ca5-9ff1-f06d4ef5fd74 https://ftp.ripe.net/pub/stats/ripencc/delegated-ripencc-extended-latest - Cynthia On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:02 PM Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> wrote: Cynthia Revström via db-wg wrote on 23/10/2019 19:42:
I would like to see it added to WHOIS.
what would you like it to mean? Nick
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Cynthia Revström
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Nick Hilliard
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Patrick Velder
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