Hi there:

I think the whole notion about we are managing the internet though the policy are not correct.

We are not managing the internet, we are book keeping really.

Denis, your argument standing on a group that if we do not manage the internet, the gov will step in and do it for us, but that is largely untrue.

The Gov are managing it now as we speak, they have something called law to enforce things, they really don't need bother to go though policy here to block content they dislike, bust people they think are bad, find people are responsible, if there is a seriou crime going on, with or without abuse-c, gov will find them or not---abuse c does not change the outcome.

Take China for example,  500 m user can not access Facebook, tell me they go though any sort of APNIC policy to do that, same goes for some countries in Middle East.

So my last point is. If you like their gov job, you can apply one, don't try to push community here to do gov's job.

Lu

Sorry, but I totally disagree with you.

If you run a network you are responsible for making resources available on the internet. That is a responsibility.