Hi Sascha On 05/03/2016 12:50, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote:
On Fri, Mar 04, 2016 at 09:00:27AM +0100, Gert Doering wrote:
The relevant question for the PDP is "does 2016-01 help achieve the goal of better combatting Internet abuse"?
In its current implementation, abuse-c: is not only useless, it's potentially harmful.
Don't make emotive, vague comments like this....explain with facts.
-Either abuse-c: is nothing but a convenience for ops, in which case it shouldn't be mandatory or -abuse-c: is an important part of registry documentation in which case the NCC should ensure that whatever information in there points to someone who *handles abuse*
The latter would actually amount to NCC telling registries how to manage their network - they MUST have abuse-handlers and they MUST publish their contact data.
I love it when people make comments like this without thinking the argument through. For an INETNUM object "admin-c:" and "tech-c:" are both mandatory. So they are both considered "an important part of registry documentation". So by your argument the NCC should ensure someone *handles administrative and technical issues*. How do you propose the NCC does that? When you work that one out they can apply the same principle to "abuse-c:". Problem solved... cheers denis
Where does it say that in the contract and how would it be enforced towards ERX holders who don't *have* a contract?
In either case, "We will put in any old email address we have in our records for your org unless you fill it in yourself" is not good enough.
rgds, Sascha Luck