hello, world\n John Martin wrote: # Joao, # # At 10:59 am +0200 25/6/98, Joao Luis Silva Damas wrote: # >After deliberations in the db-wg mailing list, the RIPE NCC suggests the # >implementation of the following changes: # # I think the changes sound fine but I have been using a widely-used USENET # convention for making my email address easily readable by a human but not # so easy for a machine (since most machine-processing of bulk lists of email # addresses is, I understand, case-insensitive). E.g. # # >Update OK: [person] JM1-RIPE (John Martin) # > # >person: John Martin # >address: TERENA Secretariat # >address: Singel 468 # >address: NL-1017 AW Amsterdam # >address: The Netherlands # >phone: +31 20 530 4488 # >fax-no: +31 20 530 4499 # >e-mail: martin@NOSPAMterena.nl # >nic-hdl: JM1-RIPE # >remarks: This object is no longer maintained by hostmaster@cwi.nl # >remarks: Remove the "NOSPAM" from the email addresses to contact owner # >changed: hostmaster@cwi.nl 940816 # >changed: ripe-dbm@ripe.net 950809 # >changed: martin@NOSPAMterena.nl 980624 # >source: RIPE # # ...which I admit, is not perfect, but perhaps better than nothing - right? # (And it works quite well for my USENET postings... so far). I dont always # use "NOSPAM" but I try to make it obvious. # # And in the case of the "changed:" fields, the people who _should_ be # interested _should_ know what to do ;-> John, you also have NOSPAM in your e-mail: field. If I'd see this in one of DFNs customer's person objects, I'd really get angry. I'm trying to contact our >1000 admin-cs and tech-cs on a regular basis, to see whether they're still alive and kicking. This happens automatically by a script. Now if I'd see martin@NOSPAMterena.nl in there -- I'd dump you right away. Sorry, but I don't regard anti spam measurements as a justification for littering the RIPE DB (which *already* has a lot of bogus information) with dead email addresses. I *do* want to automate as much as I can. Having to manually frob email addresses is absolutely not acceptable. Just to put the spam discussion on the right track (IMHO :-), yes I do get 1 to 5 spams per day, what the heck, I could not care less -- I have a delete button. Let the flame fest begin. Regards, Jens Schweikhardt -- ## Network Operation Center, DFN-Verein Geschdftsstelle Stuttgart ## ## http://www.noc.dfn.de/ finger trouble@noc.dfn.de wartung@noc.dfn.de ## ## >>>>>> mailto: noc@noc.dfn.de <<<<<< ## ## Phone: 0711-63314-112, FAX 0711-63314-133 (business hours) ##