6 Oct
2011
6 Oct
'11
9:49 a.m.
Hank, What do you propose exactly? Should we ask the RIPE NCC to e-mail each holder of an ERX block and help them update their country code? Should they make a best guess based on routing (RIS probably has a broad enough view to handle anycast addresses and the like too) and set the country code to that country if the ERX holder does not get back within a certain time? Or... what exactly? On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 09:25 +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > At 15:29 05/10/2011 +0200, Denis Walker wrote: > > Rather than make new toys, sure would have been nice if RIPE saw the > justification of fixing up and correcting the country code listing for ERX > prefixes (from 2004) in delegated-ripencc-latest, that list all ERX objects > as country code=EU. Team Cymru, among others, use that for > geolocation. But alas, the answer I received from RIPE was basically - No. -- Shane >From hank@efes.iucc.ac.il Thu Oct 06 2011 Return-Path: <db-wg-bounces@ripe.net> Received: from postgirl.ripe.net (postgirl.ripe.net [193.0.19.66]) by bigos.ripe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5621B341A3 for <maillists-archiver-wg+db@ripe.net>; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 10:02:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mamba.ripe.net ([193.0.19.40]) by postgirl.ripe.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <db-wg-bounces@ripe.net>) id 1RBiuK-0007ru-SR; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 10:02:23 +0200 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=mamba.ripe.net) by mamba.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <db-wg-bounces@ripe.net>) id 1RBis9-00076J-Gs; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 10:00:05 +0200 Received: from postgirl.ipv6.ripe.net ([2001:67c:2e8:11::c100:1342] helo=postgirl.ripe.net) by mamba.ripe.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <hank@efes.iucc.ac.il>) id 1RBis6-00076C-NY for db-wg@lists.ripe.net; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 10:00:02 +0200 Received: from efes.iucc.ac.il ([128.139.202.17]) by postgirl.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <hank@efes.iucc.ac.il>) id 1RBis4-0007io-NL for db-wg@ripe.net; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 10:00:02 +0200 Received: from hank-lenovo.efes.iucc.ac.il (adsl-v01-32a5522ebb.tau.ac.il [132.66.222.13]) by efes.iucc.ac.il (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0578131809A; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 09:59:59 +0200 (IST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20111006095705.0371e888@efes.iucc.ac.il> X-Sender: hank@efes.iucc.ac.il X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 09:59:56 +0200 To: Shane Kerr <shane@time-travellers.org> From: Hank Nussbacher <hank@efes.iucc.ac.il> In-Reply-To: <1317887377.2388.9.camel@shane-desktop> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20111006092114.0371d310@efes.iucc.ac.il> <5.1.0.14.2.20111006092114.0371d310@efes.iucc.ac.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-MimeHeaders-Plugin-Info: v2.03.00 X-RIPE-Spam-Level: -- X-RIPE-Spam-Report: Spam Total Points: -2.4 points pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------------ -0.5 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-RIPE-Signature: 57c56c6cbff8e395d6a17d1fa814ff53b4ac6296abfc3d99e09b6056886e9547 Cc: Database WG <db-wg@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [db-wg] Geolocation data prototype in the RIPE Database X-BeenThere: db-wg@ripe.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: RIPE Database Working Group <db-wg.ripe.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/db-wg>, <mailto:db-wg-request@ripe.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://www.ripe.net/mailman/private/db-wg> List-Post: <mailto:db-wg@ripe.net> List-Help: <mailto:db-wg-request@ripe.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/db-wg>, <mailto:db-wg-request@ripe.net?subject=subscribe> Sender: db-wg-bounces@ripe.net Errors-To: db-wg-bounces@ripe.net X-RIPE-Spam-Level: -- X-RIPE-Spam-Report: Spam Total Points: -2.4 points pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------------ -0.5 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-RIPE-Signature: 3864f41e5f687a91347c2a5b83511719b4ac6296abfc3d99e09b6056886e9547 At 09:49 06/10/2011 +0200, Shane Kerr wrote: >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hank, > >What do you propose exactly? > >Should we ask the RIPE NCC to e-mail each holder of an ERX block and >help them update their country code? Yes. Take each ERX block that was moved from ARIN to RIPE and autosend an email to tech-c and admin-c and ask what they prefer to change the country code in that file to. The inetnum object already reflects the proper country code in 99% of the cases, but for some reason when ARIN and RIPE did the transfer years ago the delegated-ripencc-latest was ignored and all objects got recorded with country=EU. Give a time limit of 3 months after which no more changes allowed. Regards, Hank >Should they make a best guess based on routing (RIS probably has a broad >enough view to handle anycast addresses and the like too) and set the >country code to that country if the ERX holder does not get back within >a certain time? > >Or... what exactly? > >On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 09:25 +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > > At 15:29 05/10/2011 +0200, Denis Walker wrote: > > > > Rather than make new toys, sure would have been nice if RIPE saw the > > justification of fixing up and correcting the country code listing for ERX > > prefixes (from 2004) in delegated-ripencc-latest, that list all ERX > objects > > as country code=EU. Team Cymru, among others, use that for > > geolocation. But alas, the answer I received from RIPE was basically > - No. > >-- >Shane