Hi all On 04/08/2015 02:04, Elvis Daniel Velea wrote:
Hi,
On 04/08/15 02:49, Job Snijders wrote:
I am hestitant to remove existing attributes, and would prefer that people remove them when they deem fit (for instance, after they upgraded their software).
To me, RIPE NCC finally to stop enforcing the very contents of "descr:" was all that was requested, not a 'clean-up' of sorts.
Kind regards,
Job
+1
I also do not think that the first description line should be removed from all objects because it is a duplicate of the organisation object.
Think carefully about what you are saying here and the long term consequences of these decisions. "duplicate" is the issue here. This database has a massive amount of duplicated data. Lets not leave more duplicated data that is relatively easy to clean up. Even if the RIPE NCC was not asked originally to do a clean up, I would certainly be in favour of asking them to do it now. The whole point of the previous policy was to keep the first description line the same as the org name. I can't remember now if a business rule was added to prevent users from changing it, I have a feeling it was. That means it is still 'the same as' the org name. That makes it easy to identify and remove. Make "descr:" optional and then even if it is the only description it can still be removed. If you leave it, many users will never clean up their data. We know that as a fact of life. Over time the org name in many objects will change with mergers and company name changes. But this will be forgotten about. So we are leaving a completely useless, redundant, mis-leading, initially duplicated piece of data in the database. If you are worried about people needing to upgrade their software to not require to see a mandatory "descr:" attribute, defer the cleanup for a fixed period to allow people to upgrade....as you did with the "changed:" attribute. cheers denis
It should be made clear that the descr: line (first or any other after) is a free text and is not enforced to anything specific (organisation name, address phone number, or anything else).
regards, elvis