On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 07:15:41PM +0200, denis wrote: Dear Denis and DB-WG Members
Tools provided by the RIPE NCC to find the abuse contact for a resource (RIPEstat, Abuse Finder) only search for "abuse-c:" data.
Just to clarify - I'm affraid that this looks like not being correct. First of all, this topic was discussed at RIPE69 and it was declared by RIPE NCC Staff Member that RIPEstat is still using more sophisticated way to look for abuse contact. Moreover, at the RIPEstat Abuse Contact Finder webpage (https://stat.ripe.net/specials/abuse) there is still present link to RIPE Labs article describing how this tool works (https://labs.ripe.net/Members/cteusche/finding-anti-abuse-contact-informatio...). All above are of course just kind of hints. However, one can check this in practice, looking for Abuse Contact for 155.202.0.0/16 (being just an example here). Both whois client and Abuse Finder says that there is no abuse contact registered for 155.202.0.0/16, whereas RIPEstat reports abuse@produban.com with 4/5 quality rating as an Abuse Contact. This looks like those tools are based on different alghoritms and RIPEstat doesn't _only_ search for "abuse-c" data.
A cleanup was proposed in the impact analysis for ripe-563 https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2011-06 " In order to clean up existing data, the RIPE NCC will notify the users and convert "abuse-mailbox:" attributes into "remarks:" in any object other than role objects."
As it is now a few years since this was discussed and agreed I think it wise to propose the cleanup again and reaffirm this is the way to go.
I therefore propose the RIPE NCC converts all "abuse-mailbox:" attributes into "remarks:" attributes in PERSON, MNTNER, ORGANISATION and IRT objects. Then deprecates this attribute from these object types.
Although I like this idea, I would prefer that RIPE NCC first address the problem of missing abuse-c attributes.
I further propose that any "abuse-mailbox:" attribute in a ROLE object, where the ROLE object is not referenced by any "abuse-c:" attribute, and has not been referenced for at least 90 days, is also converted into "remarks:". This will help to clean up historical "abuse-mailbox:" attributes that existed in ROLE objects before "abuse-c:" was introduced.
Is this going to be one-time action or periodic, scheduled procedure? Best regards, Piotr -- gucio -> Piotr Strzyżewski E-mail: Piotr.Strzyzewski@polsl.pl