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RIPE51: EOF Stream/Plenary presentations from the DB-WG Camp
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

Dear DB-WG subscribers! We expect the next RIPE Meeting (RIPE51 @ AMS) to be structured very much like RIPE50 (aka the "new format" :-) At the end of August 05, the Chair of RIPE and the meeting planners, together with the WG chairs, would like to review (the better part of) the EOF/Plenary Stream contributions. In order to avoid being paralized by many people being out of office during summer, I'd like to distribute this call for presentations for the Plenary from the DB-WG environment. If you intend to offer a presentation, or would like to see a particular presentation at RIPE51, please spaek up now - either to me directly or to the WG list. This is just an early warning, please expect a formal call for contributions. Thanks, and have a nice summer and relaxing vaction period! Wilfried.

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mnt-routes bugs
by Daniel Roesen 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

Hi, instead of spending developer time on poem/limerick objects, could we please get all the mnt-routes and other authorization bugs fixed, like: http://www.ripe.net/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118 http://www.ripe.net/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=136 http://www.ripe.net/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=137 and today I might have found a possible bug that is similar to 118, but IPv6: ***Warning: The parent [route6] 2001:5000::/21AS1273 has invalid prefix ranges in "mnt-routes:" attribute(s): 2001:5001:103::/48 The object has: route6: 2001:5000::/21 ... mnt-routes: CLUE-MNT {2001:5001:103::/48} I'm trying to create route6 2001:5001:103::/48. Is the mnt-routes syntax used wrong? Best regards, Daniel -- CLUE-RIPE -- Jabber: dr(a)cluenet.de -- dr@IRCnet -- PGP: 0xA85C8AA0

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whois lookup limits
by Hank Nussbacher 28 Jun '05

28 Jun '05

What are the current limits on whois lookups and how does one get a specific IP changed? I have someone getting "ERROR:202: access control limit reached for x.x.x.x" Thanks, Hank

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Re: The Cidr Report
by Hank Nussbacher 22 Jun '05

22 Jun '05

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Geoff Huston wrote: One potential problem: ERX data. I am looking at all the Israeli entries for example, from 192.114.x.x-192.118.x.x You will find it in RIPE whois, but you won't find it in the RIPE stats file since the block was ERXed as were probably many others. Not sure how you can handle that. Regards, Hank > cleared up BUT changed in one important respect: > > If an entry isin the RIPE whois database but NOT in the RIPE stats file I'm > marking it as potentially bogus. I would like to see the RIPE stats file be > an accurate picture of RIPE managed address space, and the database is > completely unreliable :-( > > Geoff > > > > At 01:08 AM 18/06/2005, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > > >I was hoping the report would be cleaned up by now but it hasn't so sorry > >for the multiple list post. The Bogon section is IMHO, broken. > > > >Taking just the 1st line as an example: > >Prefix Origin AS AS Description Unallocated block > >3.0.0.0/8 AS80 GE-CRD - General Electric Company 0.0.0.0 - 3.0.0.0 > > > >3.0.0.0/8 is allocated, as is AS80. I suspect the algorithm, which > >determines the unallocated block of 0.0.0.0 - 3.0.0.0 to be somewhat > >broken. > > > >There are thousands of lines like that. > > > >The bogus AS section also appears to be broken. > > > >-Hank > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. >

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RE: [db-wg] Implementation of POEM object
by Titley, Nigel 22 Jun '05

22 Jun '05

> Sorry, limerick, that you had to die. > And sorry haiku, that you never had the chance to be an object for > yourself. > > I wrote a haiku and a limerick about that topic. Maybe they might help > others who feel just as melancholy as me: > > POEM-HAIKU-OBJECT > POEM-LIMERICK-OBJECT Perhaps I could suggest a minute's silence on the mailing list as a mark of respect. -- Nigel Titley Peering Coordinator, FLAG Telecom +44 20 8564 5812 ********************************************************************** This e-mail message is confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and contains information which is or may be confidential, non-public or legally privileged. Any dissemination or distribution of this message other than to its intended recipient is strictly prohibited. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose the contents to any other person. If you have received this message in error, please notify us by email to postmaster(a)flagtelecom.com immediately and delete the original message and all copies from all locations in your computer systems. This e-mail has been swept by Mailsweeper TM for viruses. However, FLAG Telecom cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses. ********************************************************************** This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - www.mailcontrol.com

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irt object useless
by Andre Koopal 21 Jun '05

21 Jun '05

Last week we updated all our allocations with an IRT object. However, this ended out to be quite useless as the IRT object isn't shown in a default query, which 99% of joe-user will do, they don't know to specify -c. Another problem I noticed is that the irt-nfy isn't suppressed if you do specify -c. So I want to propose to show the IRT object in a default query and to also hide the irt-nfy attribute in that default query. Regards, Andre Koopal MCI

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Whois changes
by Erics 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

Hi, i noticed that whois gives the full details at the moment. Is this a temporary feature or did you switch back to the old output ? regards Eric Schmidt

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Implementation of POEM object
by Arife Vural 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

Dear Colleagues, [Apologies for duplicates] Following discussions in the Database Working Group, we have made changes to the whois server software. These are the proposed changes: - Add a new object POETIC-FORM that will contain the supported poem types. - Add a new object POEM that will hold the poem itself. - Add a new attribute "form:" that shows the type of poem. There is more information about this below. You can find more details about the discussion at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/maillists/archives/db-wg/2004/msg00246.html We expect to put a new whois server on line with new object support on 3 May 2005 at 16:00 CET. - Add a new POETIC-FORM object: The POETIC-FORM object contains information about the poem type. This is an example of a LIMERICK object: poetic-form: FORM-LIMERICK descr: Poem type for Limerick admin-c: AMR68-RIPE mnt-by: RIPE-DBM-MNT changed: ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net 20050429 source: RIPE These objects will be maintained by RIPE DBM. You can send new POETIC-FORM objects to <auto-dbm(a)ripe.net>. - Add a new POEM object: A POEM object is similar to the LIMERICK object. Unlike the LIMERICK object, it will have a "form:" attribute that contains information about the poem type. This is an example of a simple POEM object: poem: POEM-NT13-1 descr: RIPE24 dinner text: At a RIPE Meeting, held in Berlin, text: The meal was unusual, the din text: Of the two serenades text: Whose repertoire made us text: All smile and want to join in form: FORM-LIMERICK admin-c: LIM1-RIPE author: NT13 mnt-by: LIM-MNT changed: limerick-wg(a)ripe.net 19960529 source: RIPE Add a new "form:' attribute: The "form:" attribute indicates the type of poem. - Changes to the default whois query interface: There will be no changes to the whois query interface. - Data transition All existing LIMERICK objects will will be converted to POEM objects. LIMERICK objects will appear in the database for a while, but we will eventually delete them. Here is an example of a LIMERICK object: limerick: LIM-NT13-3 text: The document RIPE-104 text: Goes on longer than ever before text: If you want an address text: And your network's a mess text: Then Daniel will get very sore admin-c: LIM1-RIPE author: NT13 remarks: Great limerick, but the draft document RIPE-104++ remarks: is now called RIPE-136... mnt-by: LIM-MNT changed: limerick-wg(a)ripe.net 19960529 source: RIPE Here is how it will appear with new object types: poem: POEM-NT13-3 text: The document RIPE-104 text: Goes on longer than ever before text: If you want an address text: And your network's a mess text: Then Daniel will get very sore form: FORM-LIMERICK admin-c: LIM1-RIPE author: NT13 remarks: Great limerick, but the draft document RIPE-104++ remarks: is now called RIPE-136... mnt-by: LIM-MNT changed: limerick-wg(a)ripe.net 19960529 source: RIPE - Object templates Here is the template for the POEM object: poem: [mandatory] [single] [primary/look-up key] descr: [optional] [multiple] form: [mandatory] [single] [inverse key] text: [mandatory] [multiple] [ ] admin-c: [mandatory] [multiple] [inverse key] author: [mandatory] [multiple] [inverse key] remarks: [optional] [multiple] [ ] notify: [optional] [multiple] [inverse key] mnt-by: [mandatory] [multiple] [inverse key] changed: [mandatory] [multiple] [ ] source: [mandatory] [single] [ ] POETIC-FORM object template is: poetic-form: [mandatory] [single] [primary/look-up key] descr: [optional] [multiple] [ ] admin-c: [mandatory] [multiple] [inverse key] remarks: [optional] [multiple] [ ] notify: [optional] [multiple] [inverse key] mnt-by: [mandatory] [multiple] [inverse key] changed: [mandatory] [multiple] [ ] source: [mandatory] [single] [ ] Regards, Arife Vural RIPE NCC, SED

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Draft minutes of DB-WG meeting RIPE 49 V2.0
by Kanner 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

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Whois Database currently off-line
by Shane Kerr 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

Dear Colleagues, The Whois Database is currently not answering queries, or answering them sporadically. We are aware of the outage, and are currently working on restoring service. Apologies for the inconvenience, Shane Kerr Software Engineering Manager RIPE NCC

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