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by jkuijer＠dds.nl 30 Nov '05

30 Nov '05

Citeren db-wg-request(a)ripe.net: > Send db-wg mailing list submissions to > db-wg(a)ripe.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/db-wg > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > db-wg-request(a)ripe.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > db-wg-admin(a)ripe.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of db-wg digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. unsubscribe jkuijer(a)dds.nl (jkuijer(a)dds.nl) > 2. Russian Whois Data Changes (Denis Walker) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:24:33 +0100 > From: jkuijer(a)dds.nl > To: db-wg(a)ripe.net > Subject: [db-wg] unsubscribe jkuijer(a)dds.nl > > Citeren db-wg-request(a)ripe.net: > > > Send db-wg mailing list submissions to > > db-wg(a)ripe.net > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/db-wg > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > db-wg-request(a)ripe.net > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > db-wg-admin(a)ripe.net > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of db-wg digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Whois Database updates not working (Shane Kerr) > > 2. Re: [ncc-services-wg] Whois Database updates not working (Shane Kerr) > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:27:07 +0100 > > From: Shane Kerr <shane(a)ripe.net> > > To: db-wg(a)ripe.net > > Cc: ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net > > Subject: [db-wg] Whois Database updates not working > > > > SUMMARY: There is a problem with updating the Whois Database. > > > > AFFECTED: > > > > Anyone submitting an update to the Whois Database. > > > > DESCRIPTION: > > > > Since about 2:00 CET, there has been a problem with updating the > > Whois Database. > > > > The service has been stopped. We should be able to restart it > > shortly. Apologies for any problems this may be causing. > > > > We are investigating the problem. We will let you know as soon as we > > have resolved the problem, or have more information. > > > > -- > > Shane Kerr > > RIPE NCC > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:49:31 +0100 > > From: Shane Kerr <shane(a)ripe.net> > > To: db-wg(a)ripe.net, ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net > > Subject: [db-wg] Re: [ncc-services-wg] Whois Database updates not working > > > > Shane Kerr wrote: > > > > >SUMMARY: There is a problem with updating the Whois Database. > > > > > > > > Service is now running normally again. Any e-mailed updates will be > > processed normally, you do *not* have to resend them. > > > > We will provide more details after we have finished investigating. If > > you have any questions, please e-mail <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net> for help. > > > > Apologies for the inconvience. > > > > -- > > Shane Kerr > > RIPE NCC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > End of db-wg Digest > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:46:25 +0100 > From: Denis Walker <denis(a)ripe.net> > To: db-wg(a)ripe.net > Subject: [db-wg] Russian Whois Data Changes > > Dear Colleagues > > We have been informed of changes to Russian telephone area codes. One of > our Russian members has asked the RIPE NCC to perform a bulk update on > the whois data to reflect these changes. > > The area codes change on 1 December 2005. If we receive no objections, > we plan to make this update two weeks later, on 15 December 2005. > > If anyone changes the code in their own objects, it will not be affected > by this update. > > List of area codes to be changed. > > Old format New format Region > +7 011 xxxxxxx +7 401 xxxxxxx Kaliningrad > +7 071 xxxxxxx +7 471 xxxxxxx Kursk > +7 072 xxxxxxx +7 472 xxxxxxx Belgorod > +7 073 xxxxxxx +7 473 xxxxxxx Voronezh > +7 074 xxxxxxx +7 474 xxxxxxx Lipetsk > +7 075 xxxxxxx +7 475 xxxxxxx Tambov > +7 081 xxxxxxx +7 481 xxxxxxx Smolensk > +7 082 xxxxxxx +7 482 xxxxxxx Tver > +7 083 xxxxxxx +7 483 xxxxxxx Bryansk > +7 084 xxxxxxx +7 484 xxxxxxx Kaluga > +7 085 xxxxxxx +7 485 xxxxxxx Yaroslavl > +7 086 xxxxxxx +7 486 xxxxxxx Orel (Oryol, Orlovsk) > +7 087 xxxxxxx +7 487 xxxxxxx Tula (Tulsk) > +7 091 xxxxxxx +7 491 xxxxxxx Ryazan > +7 092 xxxxxxx +7 492 xxxxxxx Vladimir > +7 093 xxxxxxx +7 493 xxxxxxx Ivanovo > +7 094 xxxxxxx +7 494 xxxxxxx Kostroma > +7 095 xxxxxxx +7 495 xxxxxxx Moscow > +7 096 xxxxxxx +7 496 xxxxxxx Moscow region > > Regards > Denis Walker > Software Engineering Department > RIPE NCC > > > > > End of db-wg Digest >

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unsubscribe jkuijer@dds.nl
by jkuijer＠dds.nl 29 Nov '05

29 Nov '05

Citeren db-wg-request(a)ripe.net: > Send db-wg mailing list submissions to > db-wg(a)ripe.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/db-wg > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > db-wg-request(a)ripe.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > db-wg-admin(a)ripe.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of db-wg digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Whois Database updates not working (Shane Kerr) > 2. Re: [ncc-services-wg] Whois Database updates not working (Shane Kerr) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:27:07 +0100 > From: Shane Kerr <shane(a)ripe.net> > To: db-wg(a)ripe.net > Cc: ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net > Subject: [db-wg] Whois Database updates not working > > SUMMARY: There is a problem with updating the Whois Database. > > AFFECTED: > > Anyone submitting an update to the Whois Database. > > DESCRIPTION: > > Since about 2:00 CET, there has been a problem with updating the > Whois Database. > > The service has been stopped. We should be able to restart it > shortly. Apologies for any problems this may be causing. > > We are investigating the problem. We will let you know as soon as we > have resolved the problem, or have more information. > > -- > Shane Kerr > RIPE NCC > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:49:31 +0100 > From: Shane Kerr <shane(a)ripe.net> > To: db-wg(a)ripe.net, ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net > Subject: [db-wg] Re: [ncc-services-wg] Whois Database updates not working > > Shane Kerr wrote: > > >SUMMARY: There is a problem with updating the Whois Database. > > > > > Service is now running normally again. Any e-mailed updates will be > processed normally, you do *not* have to resend them. > > We will provide more details after we have finished investigating. If > you have any questions, please e-mail <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net> for help. > > Apologies for the inconvience. > > -- > Shane Kerr > RIPE NCC > > > > > > > End of db-wg Digest >

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Whois Database updates not working
by Shane Kerr 29 Nov '05

29 Nov '05

SUMMARY: There is a problem with updating the Whois Database. AFFECTED: Anyone submitting an update to the Whois Database. DESCRIPTION: Since about 2:00 CET, there has been a problem with updating the Whois Database. The service has been stopped. We should be able to restart it shortly. Apologies for any problems this may be causing. We are investigating the problem. We will let you know as soon as we have resolved the problem, or have more information. -- Shane Kerr RIPE NCC

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RIPE Database incident of 27th October
by Vincent De Keyzer 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

Hello, the link < http://www.ripe.net/db/incident.html <http://www.ripe.net/db/incident.html> > presented on http://www.ripe.net/ripe/maillists/archives/db-wg/1998/msg00153.html seems to be broken. Can you please reinstall the page? Thanks in advance, Vincent Vincent De Keyzer MAC Telecom S.A. Blue Tower, 8th floor Avenue Louise 326 1050 Brussels, Belgium T +32 2 790 9090 (Direct: -8901) F +32 2 790 9091 M +32 486 423 700 Welcome to www.mactelecom.com <http://www.mactelecom.com>

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whois -B -G
by Randy Bush 18 Nov '05

18 Nov '05

ok, what is the normal way to get around this? freebsd 7-current % whois -h whois.ripe.net -B -G 147.28.160.0/19 whois: illegal option -- B usage: whois [-aAbdgiIklmQrR6] [-c country-code | -h hostname] [-p port] name ... randy

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Announcement Routing Registry Training Courses
by RIPE NCC Training 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

------- Dear Colleagues The RIPE NCC Training Services Department invites you to register for one of our upcoming Routing Registry Training Courses: Date: Friday 13 January 2006 Time: 0900 - 1700 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Hosted by T-com: http://www.t-com.de/ And Date: Tuesday 14 February 2006 Time: 0900 - 1700 Location: Manama, Bahrain Hosted by 2connect: http://www.2connectbahrain.com/ And Date: Friday 10 March 2006 Time: 0900 - 1700 Location: Kiev, Ukraine The main objective of the "Routing Registry Training Course" is to familiarise the LIRs with the features of the Routing Registry, while introducing the relevant tools and services of the RIPE NCC. The course also offers practical exercises. OVERVIEW OF TOPICS COVERED IN THE COURSE: - Routing Registry as a part of the RIPE Whois Database and the Internet Routing Registry (IRR) - Specifying routing policies using (RPSL) Routing Policy Specification Language and the RtConfig tool - IRRToolSet - Routing Information Service (RIS) - Routing Registry Consistency Check Project Please note that this is an advanced course. It will: - NOT teach the basics of routing - NOT teach the basics of RIPE Database operations - NOT describe how to receive Internet resources from the RIPE NCC - NOT describe how to operate a Local Internet Registry (LIR) The target audience of the course are technical staff of LIRs: e.g. network operators, engineers etc. This course is not intended for administrative or management staff (e.g. Hostmasters) . It is assumed that all attendees will be familiar with Border Gateway Protocol routing and with the RIPE Database (i.e. creating/modifying objects). This course is based on interactive exercises in a local network set-up. Please bring your laptops equipped with the following: - A working Ethernet card, - Three meters of Ethernet cable, - A secure connection client, - A web browser. Please be prepared to share your laptop (or at least allow another attendee to "look over your shoulder") if necessary. The course is free of charge. We provide lunch and printed training materials. We do not cover any of your travel expenses or accommodation. We give all of our training courses in English. You can find more information about the course at: http://www.ripe.net/training/rr/ How to register: --------------------- You can register up to two people from your LIR for each course. (If there are places left nearer the time of the course, you can register more people). To register for this course, you can either use the LIR Portal at: https://lirportal.ripe.net/lirportal/training/course-list.html Or the online registration form on our website: http://www.ripe.net/cgi-bin/trainingform.pl.cgi If you have any questions, send an e-mail to <training(a)ripe.net>. Kind regards Rumy Kanis Training Services Manager RIPE NCC

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Re: [db-wg] Abuse Complaint procedures
by Dominic Spratley 13 Nov '05

13 Nov '05

Dear der Mouse I can understand your frustration at the apparent lack of response from the RIPE NCC in ensuring address space contacts in the Whois Database are accurate. The RIPE community decided that only the maintainers of objects in the database may make changes to data. The RIPE NCCs role is to implement this decision for the RIPE community. The RIPE Whois Database is a public database and therefore, although we (the RIPE NCC) aid in its operation, we are not responsible for its content. The RIPE community develops and sets policies through an open, bottom-up process of discussion and consensus-based decision making. If you wish to see changes to the policies that the RIPE NCC implement, the RIPE community has published the following process: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/pdp.html We are happy to assist you in drafting any policy proposal you would like to present to the community. The policy proposal template can be found here: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/pdp.html#appendix_b If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact me. Yours sincerely, Dominic Spratley, Registration Services Manager RIPE NCC

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Re: [db-wg] Abuse Complaint procedures
by Philippe Bourcier 11 Nov '05

11 Nov '05

Hi, >Fine; that means that RIPE's options are limited to bugging the >assignee or revoking the grant of space. Seems somewhat crippled to >me, but that's a RIPE-internal problem (if it's a problem at all). RIPE-internal ? RIR-internal more likely... Do you know any large RIR that does more to handle abuse ? I'm not saying that the actual system is perfect (or even good), but can you tell us which better system you know ? Sincerely, Philippe Bourcier

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Abuse Complaint procedures
by jrfoleyjr＠comcast.net 08 Nov '05

08 Nov '05

After some searching, it appears that RIPE has no actual abuse policy but that everything is still hanging in limbo. I was looking for an address to report hacker activity to and it appears that you are a) not in the business b) not equipped to handle it c) barely qualified to assign blocks of IP addresses so that the addressee can self-police, unless they are hacker/spammer organizations. In which case the rest of the worlds choice is to ban RIPE assigned addresses. Hopefully RIPE will mature soon! If in fact you DO have a group assigned for the purpose of investigating hackers, please make it available on you web page.

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Deprecation of the NONE Authentication Scheme
by Ziya Suzen 08 Nov '05

08 Nov '05

Dear Colleagues, As announced at RIPE 47 the NONE authentication scheme will be deprecated. After 26 April 2004 the RIPE Whois Database will not accept updates using the NONE authentication scheme. If you have objects protected by a MNTNER object which has the NONE authentication scheme, please assign another authentication scheme or create another MNTNER object to protect these objects. If you are a RIPE NCC member you can create new MNTNER objects through the LIR Portal or send your update to <auto-dbm(a)ripe.net>. History and details: -------------------- 1. Motivation The RIPE Database protects data from unauthorised modification through the use of references to maintainer objects. The maintainer objects contain an "auth:" attribute which specifiy how a user is authenticated during updates to the database. One of the allowed authentication schemes is "NONE", which is actually not an authentication at all, but rather specifies that no authentication is necessary. NONE is intended to be used consciously, as a notification facility or as a means to tag objects. In April 2003, a proposal was sent to the Database Working Group by Hank Nussbacher: It has come lately to the attention in the Internet security realm that spammers as well as crackers are hijacking IP address space. One easy way to "steal" IP address space is via those that have auth=NONE on their objects. It is likely that in many cases NONE is used simply because it is easy. Currently approximately 500 maintainers use NONE - about 5% of all maintainers. 2. Plan Normally with a database cleanup effort, an announcement is sent to the appropriate mailing lists, posted to the RIPE web page, and also sent to the specific users affected. A period of time for cleanup is given. Finally, if the users have not fixed the data then it is modified. However, for the NONE deprecation, it is inadvisable to do this as it means announcing what is in effect a security vulnerability. Also, our operational experience with past cleanups shows that most users do not really participate through the phases of the effort. Therefore, the plan for MNTNER objects with the NONE authentication scheme is: o Announcement only to db-wg mailing list. (This announcement) o Remove "auth: NONE" attributes from all MNTNER objects, by changing them to a "remarks:" attribute with a URL explaining the change. o If that is the only authentication scheme, update the mntner objects, adding MD5-PW with a generated password. o E-mail the "admin-c:" and "tech-c:" of the objects, and the e-mail addresses listed in the "upd-to:" and "mnt-nfy:" attributes of the objects, explaining the change and including the new password if one is added. o Passwords can be requested via an e-mail to <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net>. The reply with the password will be sent to the same contacts. After a certain period of time the service will be discontinued. Users wishing to use these maintainers may contact <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net> for assistance. 3. RIPE-NCC-NONE-MNT A maintainer with NONE authentication, RIPE-NCC-NONE-MNT, was added to objects without any maintainer when the database was converted from RIPE-181 format to RPSL format in April 2001. There is a remark in these objects which includes the following: remarks: The RIPE NCC will never use this maintainer object to remarks: enforce any sort of control over user's objects. It is possible this could have been interpreted to mean that no restriction would ever be added to the object. One use of the RIPE-NCC-NONE-MNT has been to allow the creation of objects representing routing policy for resources not allocated or assigned by the RIPE NCC. This is done by using "mnt-routes: RIPE-NCC-NONE-MNT" or "mnt-lower: RIPE-NCC-NONE-MNT" as appropriate. A new maintainer object will be created for these cases, with a well- known password, published in the object: mntner: RIPE-NCC-RPSL-MNT descr: This maintainer may be used to create objects to represent descr: routing policy in the RIPE Database for number resources not descr: allocated or assigned from the RIPE NCC. admin-c: RD132-RIPE upd-to: ripe-dbm-notify(a)ripe.net auth: MD5-PW $1$GUExyzzy$XQtbZHGVqy9GW8BiAckBV1 remarks: ******************************************************* remarks: * The password for this object is 'RPSL', without the * remarks: * quotes. * remarks: ******************************************************* mnt-by: RIPE-DBM-MNT referral-by: RIPE-DBM-MNT changed: ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net 20040301 source: RIPE The main use of this maintainer is for INETNUM objects. There are approximately 60000 such objects - about 6% of the inetnums. Updates for objects with RIPE-NCC-NONE-MNT are rare, less than 2% of all updates. For objects using RIPE-NCC-NONE-MNT: o If there are other "mnt-by:" attributes it will be changed to a "remarks:" attribute. o Otherwise, the "mnt-by:" will be changed to RIPE-NCC-LOCKED-MNT, which has a locked password (or PGP key). o A "remarks:" attribute will be added explaining how to generate a maintainer. o An e-mail will be sent to the "admin-c:" and "tech-c:" of the objects, and the e-mail addresses listed in the "notify:" attributes of the objects, explaining the change and giving a URL which will help to generate a new maintainer or assign another existing maintainer. o At the URL, the object will be automatically updated to have a new maintainer. o After a certain period of time the service will be discontinued. Users wishing to use these maintainers may contact ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net for assistance. 4. Other maintainers with "auth: NONE" The RIPE-NCC-PN-NONE-MNT was used to mark PERSON objects not to be deleted in the 2001 person cleanup. It can be removed and the maintainer deleted. The LIM-MNT is used for limericks. It will have a well-known password similar to the RPSL maintainer. It will also be maintained by another maintainer (not itself, as currently). -- Ziya Suzen RIPE NCC

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Planned network maintenance 3-11-2005
by Ruud de Kooter 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Dear Colleagues, This is to let you know that we will carry out planned network maintenance tomorrow, Thursday, 3 November from 20:00 to 22:00 UTC. We don't expect this to disrupt any RIPE NCC services, though you may notice some small delays. This maintenance is necessary after a high load on one of our border routers caused some service disruption on 29 September 2005. Since then, we have made configuration changes to improve load balancing between the border routers. Unfortunately this has not been as beneficial as we had hoped, and the load continues to increase. The router is approaching its maximum capacity. We have decided to replace the router with a more powerful one. We apologise for inconvenience this may cause. If you have any questions, please send e-mail to <ops(a)ripe.net>. Regards, Ruud de Kooter

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Proposal for Test Database Cleanup
by Can Bican 01 Nov '05

01 Nov '05

Proposal for Periodic Clean-up for the TEST RIPE Database Motivation ---------- The RIPE NCC provides a TEST RIPE Database for users to learn how to use the software and try out new updates without the risk of damaging data in the real database. This database uses the same software as the production version of the RIPE Database. The data in the TEST database is NOT a copy of that in the RIPE Database, it is not authoritative data. Therefore no value should be put on it. The RIPE NCC only carries out maintenance operations in the RIPE Database and not in the TEST database. Over time, however, outdated features in the database software may make some parts of the TEST database unusable. To ensure a clean functioning test environment, we propose a periodic clean-up of the TEST database. Objectives ---------- - To increase the availability of the TEST database with a minimum of administrator interference. - To clean up unneeded items from the TEST database. - To provide a consistent starting point for the TEST database. Implementation -------------- - Every first Tuesday of each month, the TEST database will be reloaded with a set of database objects. Downtime will be brief, and is estimated to be at most half an hour. - After the reinitialisation, the database will contain: * One PERSON, one ROLE, one ORGANISATION and one MAINTAINER object for test purposes. * One MAINTAINER object to maintain the test MAINTAINER object. * 0/0 network ranges for IPv4 and IPv6. * 0/0 ROUTE and ROUT6 objects. * One as-block containing as0 - as65535. * Three DOMAIN objects for 'in-addr.arpa', 'ip6.arpa' and 'e164.arpa'. -- Can Bican Software Engineering Department

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RIPE NCC Launches E-Learning Centre
by Rumy Kanis 01 Nov '05

01 Nov '05

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC is proud to announce the launch of its E-Learning Centre (http://e-learning.ripe.net). The E-Learning Centre is a free resource available to both members of the RIPE NCC and non-members. The E-Learning Centre will: - Enable users to learn in their own space and at their own pace - Supplement the training courses provided by the RIPE NCC - Allow users to contact the RIPE NCC trainers for additional help and support The E-Learning Centre launched on 1 November 2005 with an introduction to creating and updating basic RIPE Database objects. In January 2006, the RIPE NCC is planning to add a second module, covering the RIPE Policy Development Process. The RIPE NCC plans to develop further modules for the E-Learning Centre based on feedback from users. Plans are already underway for additional modules covering subjects such as DNS for LIRs, Advanced Database Objects and IRRToolset. The E-Learning Centre is available at: http://e-learning.ripe.net If you have any questions or feedback about the RIPE NCC E-Learning Centre, please e-mail: <e-learning(a)ripe.net> Regards, Rumy Kanis Training Services Manager RIPE NCC -- RIPE NCC Online learning... at your pace in your space http://e-learning.ripe.net

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RE: [db-wg] New RIPE Whois Database Manual
by Koepp, Karsten 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

> Same here, it was very effective indeed, > but I think the -B alert in the answers could be removed by now? > > Wilfried. > Which implies all object maintainers update the database as frequent as we all do here. I estimate there is a large number of people doing updates so rarely they haven't even tried since this change. I am in favor of leaving the comment for a longer period (>= 2 years). Karsten

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New RIPE Whois Database Manual
by Denis Walker 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

Dear Colleagues, We are pleased to announce the publication of an updated RIPE Whois Database Document. ripe-358 RIPE Whois Database Query Reference Manual Previously, this was part of ripe-252, The RIPE Database Reference Manual. The content has been thoroughly revised and updated. We have also improved the wording to make it clearer. We are now working on producing a RIPE Whois Database Update Reference Manual. The two new manuals together will obsolete ripe-252. You can find the document at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/db-query-manual.html Regards Denis Walker Software Enginerring Department RIPE NCC

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yet another irrtoolset replacement
by md＠Linux.IT 19 Oct '05

19 Oct '05

This may be a good time to advertise the first public release of my routers configuration generator. It can generate the complete BGP configuration (neighbor statements, route maps, prefix and as-path lists) of peering or customer-facing routers using RPSL data, a local configuration file and a configuration template based on the popular Template::Toolkit perl package. Currently I only provide an IOS configuration template, but it should be easy to write one for JUNOS (patches are welcome!). It can be downloaded from http://www.linux.it/~md/software/rpsltool-0.1.tgz and is free software released under the terms of the GPL. (From the same directory you can also download cisco-tools-0.1.tgz, which contains some programs to monitor what is being announced and leaked by peers.) -- ciao, Marco

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DB WG draft minutes RIPE 51
by Titley, Nigel 14 Oct '05

14 Oct '05

Gentlefolk, In an effort to make up for the lateness of last time, here are the draft minutes for the meeting that finished 30 minutes ago. Please could I have comments on *both* sets of minutes please. After 2 weeks I will move the RIPE 50 minutes to non-draft status and update the web site. The RIPE 51 minutes will remain at draft status until next meeting, as usual. Best regards Nigel -- Nigel Titley Peering Coordinator, FLAG Telecom +44 20 8564 5812 ********************************************************************** This e-mail message is confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and contains information which is or may be confidential, non-public or legally privileged. Any dissemination or distribution of this message other than to its intended recipient is strictly prohibited. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose the contents to any other person. If you have received this message in error, please notify us by email to postmaster(a)flagtelecom.com immediately and delete the original message and all copies from all locations in your computer systems. This e-mail has been swept by Mailsweeper TM for viruses. However, FLAG Telecom cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses. ********************************************************************** This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - www.mailcontrol.com

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Update Draft DB-WG minutes from RIPE 50
by Titley, Nigel 13 Oct '05

13 Oct '05

Gentlefolk, It has been pointed out that AP48.7 has actually been completed. Please see attached updated minutes. Nigel -- Nigel Titley Peering Coordinator, FLAG Telecom +44 20 8564 5812 ********************************************************************** This e-mail message is confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and contains information which is or may be confidential, non-public or legally privileged. Any dissemination or distribution of this message other than to its intended recipient is strictly prohibited. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose the contents to any other person. If you have received this message in error, please notify us by email to postmaster(a)flagtelecom.com immediately and delete the original message and all copies from all locations in your computer systems. This e-mail has been swept by Mailsweeper TM for viruses. However, FLAG Telecom cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses. ********************************************************************** This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - www.mailcontrol.com

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[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: [db-wg] RIPE51 DB-WG Draft Agenda V1]]
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 12 Oct '05

12 Oct '05

Thanks to Andre for reminding me about that item! I am a tad puzzled, because a DB-WG Action on this reads: 48.6 RIPE NCC To change DB behaviour to return IRT object [Complete] However, neither the web interface nor the RIPE whois client does return the irt information. Rather I get a route object under the heading of % Information related to 'prefix/length ASinfo' Any insight on that? Thanks, Wilfried. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Fwd: [db-wg] RIPE51 DB-WG Draft Agenda V1] Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:28:57 +0200 From: Andre Koopal <andre.koopal(a)nld.mci.com> To: Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet <woeber(a)cc.univie.ac.at> CC: db-wg(a)ripe.net, RIPE NCC Meeting Registration <meeting(a)ripe.net>, wg-chairs(a)ripe.net References: <434BB603.4050409(a)cc.univie.ac.at> On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 01:54:27PM +0100, Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet wrote: > > Dear DB-WG folks, Chairs, Meeting! > > Here is the 2nd draft of an agenda for the DB-WG next week at RIPE51 > in Amsterdam. > > For time slot allocation please refer to the most up-to-date meeting > plan at http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-51/meeting-plan.html Hi Wilfried, A while ago I mailed the db working group to request a changed behavour when you lookup inetnum's. In principle what I would like to see is that when an inetnum is returned, that the IRT object that is relevant to this inetnum is returned as well. For example, if you lookup inetnum '193.78.240' you get that inetnum returned, and the irt-object 'IRT-MCI-NL', as that is specified in the inetnum above: '193.78/15'. Note that this is different then the current -c behavour as that would, in this example' return the inetnum for '193.78/15' instead. Can you add this discussion on the agenda as well? Unfortunately I won't be able to visit the WG session myself, I hope the proposal is clear this way. Regards, Andre Koopal > > Best regards, > Wilfried. > ________________________________________________________________________ > > A. Administrative Matters > - scribe > - list of participants > - agenda > - minutes > - "remote participation" coordination (if needed) > > B. DB Update (N.N., RIPE NCC) [~15 min] > > C. Review of security mechanisms in the DB (Peter K., denic.de) [~15 min] > . quality of CRYPT-PW, CRYPT-MD5, X.509 > . level of vulnerabilty in current dataset > > D. State of whois services, developments? (WW144, N.N., RIPE NCC) [~15 min] > > E. IRIS pilot frontend to whois (N.N., RIPE NCC) [~10 min] > > F. Fact finding: RoutingReg facilities at RIRs (Gert D, SpaceNet) [~15 min] > > X. Impact of "PDP" on how the DB-WG operates (WW144) [~15 min] > . ref: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-350.html > > Y. Input from other WGs > . DNS: secureDNS requirements for the DB > > Z. AOB > > >

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[Fwd: [db-wg] RIPE51 DB-WG Draft Agenda V1]
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 11 Oct '05

11 Oct '05

Dear DB-WG folks, Chairs, Meeting! Here is the 2nd draft of an agenda for the DB-WG next week at RIPE51 in Amsterdam. For time slot allocation please refer to the most up-to-date meeting plan at http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-51/meeting-plan.html Best regards, Wilfried. ________________________________________________________________________ A. Administrative Matters - scribe - list of participants - agenda - minutes - "remote participation" coordination (if needed) B. DB Update (N.N., RIPE NCC) [~15 min] C. Review of security mechanisms in the DB (Peter K., denic.de) [~15 min] . quality of CRYPT-PW, CRYPT-MD5, X.509 . level of vulnerabilty in current dataset D. State of whois services, developments? (WW144, N.N., RIPE NCC) [~15 min] E. IRIS pilot frontend to whois (N.N., RIPE NCC) [~10 min] F. Fact finding: RoutingReg facilities at RIRs (Gert D, SpaceNet) [~15 min] X. Impact of "PDP" on how the DB-WG operates (WW144) [~15 min] . ref: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-350.html Y. Input from other WGs . DNS: secureDNS requirements for the DB Z. AOB

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Draft Minutes for DB-WG RIPE 50
by Titley, Nigel 11 Oct '05

11 Oct '05

Gentlefolk, Apologies for the lateness of these minutes. My only excuse is that I wasn't there, but I must emphasise that the scribe did actually pass on the minutes straight after the meeting. On the positive side, the only action that came out of the meeting was on Wilfried, so you can all breathe easily (apart from Wilfried). Best regards Nigel -- Nigel Titley Peering Coordinator, FLAG Telecom +44 20 8564 5812 ********************************************************************** This e-mail message is confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and contains information which is or may be confidential, non-public or legally privileged. Any dissemination or distribution of this message other than to its intended recipient is strictly prohibited. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose the contents to any other person. If you have received this message in error, please notify us by email to postmaster(a)flagtelecom.com immediately and delete the original message and all copies from all locations in your computer systems. This e-mail has been swept by Mailsweeper TM for viruses. However, FLAG Telecom cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses. ********************************************************************** This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - www.mailcontrol.com

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RIPE51 DB-WG Draft Agenda V1
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Dear DB-WG folks, Chairs, Meeting! Here is the 1st draft of an agenda for the DB-WG next week at RIPE51 in Amsterdam. For time slot allocation please refer to the most up-to-date meeting plan at http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-51/meeting-plan.html Comments and additional topic proposals requested. Pesentations which might be of particular interest for those actively contributing ideas and expertise to DB-development: Tue. 18. Certificates and IP Addresses. Fri. 25. DNSSEC Deployment. and a presentation on (a) new whois interface(s) t.b.c. For a complete list of plenary presentations please have a look at http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-51/presentations/plenary-monday.html Looking forward to meet many of you next week in Amsterdam, Wilfried. PS: kudos to everyone involved in making the "Summary of Changes in Recent RIPE Documents" at http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/updates.html available on the web. THANKS!! ________________________________________________________________________ A. Administrative Matters - scribe - list of participants - agenda - minutes - "remote participation" coordination (if needed) B. DB Update (N.N., RIPE NCC) [~15 min] C. Review of security mechanisms in the DB (Peter K., denic.de) [~15 min] . quality of CRYPT-PW, CRYPT-MD5, X.509 . level of vulnerabilty in current dataset D. state of whois services, developments? (WW144, N.N., RIPE NCC) [~15 min] X. Impact of "PDP" on how the DB-WG operates (WW144) [~15 min] . ref: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-350.html Y. Input from other WGs . DNS: secureDNS requirements for the DB Z. AOB

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RIPE NCC Service Interruption on 29 September
by Ruud de Kooter 04 Oct '05

04 Oct '05

Dear Colleagues, As we announced on 29 September, there was an unexpected disruption to our whois and web services between 05:10 and 06:00 UTC. Our investigations have shown that the problem was caused by an increasing traffic load and a growing number of peers on one of our routers. We made some configuration changes to improve load balancing between our border routers. This should prevent any similar problems from occurring in the future. We apologise for any disruption or delay this may have caused. If you have any further questions about this matter, please send an e-mail to <ops(a)ripe.net>. Regards Ruud de Kooter RIPE NCC

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RIPE NCC Service Interruption
by RIPE NCC Operations 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

[apologies for duplicate mails] Dear Colleagues, >From 07:00 until 08:00 GMT, the RIPE NCC experienced an unexpected disruption to services. Although this may have caused delays to updates to the RIPE Whois Database, these updates have been processed normally. The disruption may have also affected some of these RIPE NCC services: - whois.ripe.net - www.ripe.net - lirportal.ripe.net - ns*.ripe.net - ftp.ripe.net - www.aso.icann.org - www.nro.net - k.root-servers.org (Global node at the AMS-IX) - AS112.ripe.net We apologise for any interruption or delay to services. If you have any questions or concerns regarding this issue, please contact <ops(a)ripe.net>. Regards, RIPE NCC Operations

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whois.ripe.net
by Ulisses 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

Hello anybody knows if this is the right place to talk about about the whois.ripe.net server's service? I'm not sure if it is only about the whois package or also the service, if not what is the right place? Thanks in advance Ulisses Debian GNU/Linux: a dream come true ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Computers are useless. They can only give answers." Pablo Picasso "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

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