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New on RIPE Labs: Two new RIPE DB Related RIPEstat widgets
by Mirjam Kuehne 19 Apr '12

19 Apr '12

Dear colleagues, Please find two articles on RIPE Labs that describe two new RIPEstat widgets: 1. The object browser for RIPE database objects: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/becha/ripestat-objects-browser-for-ripe-datab… 2. The Address Space Hierarchy widget: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/becha/ripestat-address-space-hierarchy-widget Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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Re: [db-wg] RIPE64 DB-WG Draft Agenda V1 --> V2
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 19 Apr '12

19 Apr '12

This is a very late update/addition to the V1 draft agenda, bumping the version to V2 :-) Wilfried Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet wrote: > Dear DB-WG folks, Chairpersons, "Meeting"! > > This is the 1st draft of an agenda for the DB-WG at RIPE64 in Ljubljana, > during CW16, April 2012. > > For time slot allocations please refer to the most up-to-date meeting > plan at http://ripe64.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan > > The DB-WG Meeting is scheduled for *Thursday*, April 16th, starting > at 14:00 in the afternoon (in parallel with the meeting of the IPv6-WG). > The length of our timeslot is 90 Minutes. > > Please feel free to propose additional topics to be discussed! > > I'd also suggest that you submit your points of view regarding the > topics on the proposed agenda on the mailing list, preferably before > the WG meeting's start :-) > > > Best regards, > hope to see you soon in Slovenia, > Wilfried. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > A. Administrative Matters > . Welcome > . select scribe > . finalise agenda > . approval of minutes from previous WG meeting(s) > . review of action list > > > B. Data Base Update (N.N., RIPE NCC) [~20 min] > - general update > - geolocation status/implementation > - internationalisation > > > C. RIPEstat (Daniel K., RIPE NCC) [~20 min] > - new way of accessing database content > - discussion about access control D. Review of implementation of auth: filtering - filtering of public key information - lack of hint about type/number of attributes omitted > Y. Input from other WGs and/or TFs > > > Z. AOB > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > >

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Geolocation beta functionality now in the RIPE DB
by Alex Band 18 Apr '12

18 Apr '12

Dear colleagues, We are happy to announce that geolocation functionality now is available as a beta in the RIPE Database. It can be optionally included in the INETNUM and INET6NUM objects. With the operational experience we gain with this beta, we will continue to develop it to a production service. Two attributes have been added: - "geoloc:" - "language:" The first attribute stores the geolocation data as longitude and latitude, specifying the area where the address space is used. The second attribute sets the preferred language that users of the address space wish to see content in. In addition, we are launching the Geolocation Finder: https://apps.db.ripe.net/search/geolocation-finder.html This tool helps you find geolocation data in the RIPE Database, by simply entering an IP address in the form. If the address is covered by either location or language data, the results are shown as text and on a Google map. Kind regards, Alex Band Product Manager RIPE NCC

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Draft Minutes RIPE 63
by Nigel Titley 20 Mar '12

20 Mar '12

Folks, It looks to me as though I didn't send out the minutes for the DB-WG last November. Apologies for this. Please find them attached. Nigel

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RIPE Database Access Control
by Denis Walker 09 Mar '12

09 Mar '12

Dear Colleagues As part of the redevelopment project for the RIPE Database, we re-implemented the Access Control List (ACL) mechanism. We simplified the process and have some questions to ask the community. 1/ Should we change the default query behaviour so personal data must be explicitly requested? 2/ Should we block access to personal data only and still allow access to operational data? 3/ Should there be more transparency of limits with some user options? More details about the new ACL and these three questions are provided below. As the RIPE NCC continues to progress with the redevelopment project, we will have more of these questions. The wider the community feedback on these questions, the easier it will be for us to build a RIPE Database service that satisfies your needs. Regards, Denis Walker Business Analyst RIPE NCC Database Group Overview of new ACL To make it very easy to understand what is happening, we have redefined the algorithm for blocking and unblocking. Now, when you hit a set limit for accessing personal data sets within a day, you will be temporarily blocked from accessing the RIPE Database. This temporary block will be removed at midnight (UTC). If you are temporarily blocked 10 times in a rolling 30 day period, you will be permanently blocked. A permanent block can only be removed by contacting Customer Services at <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net> and discussing the situation. This is, in principle, the same as the current behaviour but with simplified time periods and reset points. Background to questions 1/ The current default behaviour on any query is to always return personal data referenced in any other data that is returned by the query. This is one of the main causes for temporary blocking of access to the RIPE Database. Personal data is often returned when it was not needed. To prevent the personal data being accounted, a query must include the '-r' option. Many users think an option like '-T INETNUM' will only return the INETNUM objects and no personal data will be involved. Unfortunately, '-T' is not a true query option. It is a filter. So the personal data is still queried and then filtered out of the results set. This causes the personal data to still be accounted for as if you had received it. We would like to suggest reversing the default query behaviour. This way no personal data will be returned unless you include a new query flag explicitly requesting it. 2/ The current blocking mechanism works on the basis of all or nothing. If you are not blocked, you can successfully query for any data in the RIPE Database. If you are blocked (either temporarily or permanently), any query from you is rejected with a "Denied access" error message. We would like to propose a middle road. Blocking can be set to only apply to personal data. So, after being blocked, you can still query for any operational data in the RIPE Database. But all personal data will be filtered out of the results set, even if you explicitly request it. If the community likes this idea, a further choice is possible. One option is to apply this middle road to both temporary and permanent blocks. Another is to only apply this to temporary blocks and keep a permanent block as a complete "Denied access" error. 3/ A final question regards information about the limits. In the past, details of limits and when they were reset were not clearly published in any document. But it is not difficult to determine them with a little trial and error. Perhaps the community would prefer complete transparency on this. We can publish all the limits in a revised Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) document and even provide a query option to let a user know how much of their daily limit they have already used.

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Forward DOMAIN Object Cleanup and Syntax Changes
by Denis Walker 08 Mar '12

08 Mar '12

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear colleagues, At RIPE 57, the RIPE NCC was asked to remove all forward domain data from the RIPE Database. The last two ccTLD operators' data was removed today, 31 January 2011. The RIPE NCC can now confirm the completion of action point AP57.2 from the RIPE Database Working Group. At RIPE 62, the RIPE NCC was asked to look at the attributes in DOMAIN objects. With the removal of any hierarchy in reverse delegations and the removal of forward domain data, we no longer see any use case for the "mnt-lower:" attribute. Other attributes that it has been suggested were used only for forward domains are: - "refer:" - "sub-dom:" - "dom-net:" The statistics listed at the bottom of this email show how many of these attributes have been added to ENUM and reverse delegation DOMAIN objects. It has also been suggested that the "nserver:" optional attribute could be made a "required" attribute in reverse delegation DOMAIN objects. It could remain optional in ENUM DOMAIN objects or it could be disallowed. The RIPE NCC asked the community in July 2011 if anyone saw any justification for the use of these attributes in ENUM or reverse delegation DOMAIN objects. We did not receive any feedback on this. If there is no justification, the syntax of the DOMAIN object can be adjusted to deprecate these attributes. Then all current DOMAIN objects in the RIPE Database can be "cleaned" to remove this data. Business rules can be added to make the "nserver:" attribute required or disallowed in different types of DOMAIN objects, if this is considered useful. To keep the discussion focused, please send any comments or feedback to the DNS Working Group mailing list. Regards, Denis Walker Business Analyst RIPE NCC Database Group Statistics (as at July 2011) ---------- Number of each attribute used in reverse delegations or ENUMs and the number of unique maintainers who manage these objects. "refer:" = 6 unique maintainers = 1 "sub-dom:" = 271 unique maintainers = 23 "dom-net:" = 2,219 unique maintainers = 140 "mnt-lower:" = 46,485 unique maintainers = 4,208

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Plain text passwords in email updates
by Denis Walker 22 Feb '12

22 Feb '12

Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC recently announced completion of an action point from the RIPE Database Working Group to hide the password hashes in MNTNER objects from public view. As a follow up to that, we agreed to contact all maintainers and advise them to update their passwords. This was also completed last week. At RIPE 64 we will provide some statistics on the outcome of that advice. The next issue that was raised in the Database Working group session at RIPE 63 was the use of plain text passwords in emails to update data in the RIPE Database. The RIPE NCC would like to invite members of the community to put forward and discuss ideas on resolving this matter. Note that there are now many ways to update objects in the RIPE Database. As well as the traditional email service, there is also Webupdates for single or small numbers of objects to be updated. For scripting of automated updates, there are Syncupdates and the RESTful API. Some ideas that have been suggested during discussions in the past are to disallow the use of passwords in email updates and also the option to drop email updates completely. There may also be other options. As usual, the RIPE NCC will follow any discussions and provide technical input where necessary. Regards, Denis Walker Business Analyst RIPE NCC Database Group

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help
by Caraliu.Samuel 16 Feb '12

16 Feb '12

2012/2/15 <db-wg-request(a)ripe.net> > Send db-wg mailing list submissions to > db-wg(a)ripe.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/db-wg > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > db-wg-request(a)ripe.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > db-wg-owner(a)ripe.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of db-wg digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Suggestion for a way to retrieve filtered objects > (Anders Mundt Due) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:10:33 +0100 > From: "Anders Mundt Due" <anders.mundt.due(a)uni-c.dk> > Subject: [db-wg] Suggestion for a way to retrieve filtered objects > To: "Database WG" <db-wg(a)ripe.net> > Message-ID: > <80D52320F10F9143AF3670B571348EEA01F497BB(a)LGBEXCHANGE01.unic.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi there, > > We just had a problem with the RFC3068-MNT object, from what I can see, if > you have an object with at least one > auth: MD5 ... > > Only people that have one of the passwords can see the object in the > webupdater and get the full object to manipulate the object. > > So now, instead of having a chance to get rid of shared > passwords/passphrases, everybody needs to have one, because of the way > objects are filtered. > > Only idea I've had so far, would be that there should be a way to request > an object in a way where I can authenticate with my PGPKEY, for instance > using email and not a webbrowser, so I'd sign a mail requesting an object, > with a key that would be listed as authentication in the object I request, > and that would return the unfiltered object to me. > > Of course, the other solution is to just get hold of all the people with > an auth: MD5 line and make them take it out, that way you can get the full > object without authenticating on the webupdater. > > I'm not sure if my thought here is useable, good or practical. But it > someone can come up with a brilliant way to make shared objects of this > kind smoothly, I suspect the people implementing the database will be eager > to hear about it, and at the very least the people behind RFC3068-MNT will > be gratefull. > > /Anders > Forskningsnettet dk.denet > > End of db-wg Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 > *********************************** >

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cmd line asused and webasused
by Nina Hjorth Bargisen 18 Jan '12

18 Jan '12

Hi all Last year I learned - by asking around - that the asused tool commandline script was no longer supported by RIPE - that was after not being able to find it on the usual ftp site. We have since managed to get by with an old copy but now it seems that this is no longer able to get output from the RIPE db and hence all our adress usage and other homemade scripts are now broken. I assume that this step has been taken after some discussion that I myself have been too lazy to follow in this working group, but as I cant manage to find any reference of it in a brief search in the archives and my mailbox that holds mails from a few years, I hope someone in the group can enlighten me about why this step was taken. I have tried to use the webtool, but as it spams *every* person in the LIR contact list with several mails and all the output is jammed together in one long list, I am not really too happy about rewriting all my scripts to some how use the webtool to give me the nessercary output. So - Is there *ANY* chance of somehow get support of a similar tool to the old asused used, that one can install and run from our own box and with the support of the same options as before or does all tools now focus on small LIRs with very and hence very easily manually managed addressspace? /Nina TDC dk.teledanmark

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Re: [db-wg] cmd line asused and webasused
by Alex Band 18 Jan '12

18 Jan '12

Hi Nigel, I can assure you that the action the board gave, what Axel understood and what we are developing is perfectly aligned. "Merely provisioning an API into the webasused tool" is not what I said and definitely not what we're creating. Our goal is to cater to all needs that the membership has with regards to address space information and management. Some just want a simple web based interface that they can check without needing to download and run a local tool. Some have a need to integrate address space information into their local (IPAM) toolsets and workflows. But what all users have in common is the desire to have a more comprehensive information set than is currently available, such as an overview of the invalid assignments, as Nina pointed out. This is why we're taking an approach of using Registry data instead of the RIPE Database. To summarise, again, we will provide functionality for both web-based and stand-alone use. In the mean time, we will do everything we can to make sure the current asused functionality is not disrupted. Kind regards, Alex On 17 Jan 2012, at 17:53, Nigel Titley wrote: > Nick, Alex et al > > At the Board meeting on the 8th December the board gave Axel an action "to reinstate/redevelop the stand-alone version of the RIPE NCC ASused tool" > > I doubt that this action would be satisfied merely by the provision of an API into the webasused tool. > > Alex, you may like to check this with Axel. It is possible that it was misunderstood by him, but it is very clearly minuted. > > And I'd agree with Nick that lack of platform portability is one of the few brickbats that cannot be aimed at perl. > > Nigel > > -----Original Message----- > From: db-wg-bounces(a)ripe.net [mailto:db-wg-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Nick Hilliard > Sent: 17 January 2012 16:22 > To: Alex Band > Cc: db-wg(a)ripe.net > Subject: Re: [db-wg] cmd line asused and webasused > > Hi Alex, > > On 17/01/2012 14:25, Alex Band wrote: >> Thanks for bringing up asused. It is a tool that was written and >> maintained by the RIPE NCC many years ago and later handed to the open >> source community, where it can be found in packages such as Debian: >> http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/asused.html >> >> This, along with the fact that is was written in a very platform >> specific manner, is the reason why the tool is no longer actively >> developed and supported by the RIPE NCC. On the other hand, we have >> always kept the existence of asused in mind, which means that we would >> never intentionally change anything to our (whois) configuration that >> would break asused. I want to assure you that we'll try to fix any >> issue that you may have on a best effort basis. > > Problem is, we don't yet have a replacement command-line tool for dealing with quick-n-easy LIR resource usage summarisation. This has meant that the people who depended on this tool were left hanging for the last 8 years, because the code slowly rotted as interfaces subtly changed over time. This is not a criticism of changing the DB interface or anything, btw - progress needs to happen. > > In terms of being platform specific, it was limited to any platform which could run perl - perhaps with minor modifications. There are lots of complaints that people make about perl, (some legitimate) but platform portability is not one of them. > > OTOH, webasused can be very slow. E.g. I submitted a request for a LIR at > 15:28 GMT today, and got a reply at 15:39. This makes it unusable for a typical workflow process (e.g. run asused, check output against internal records, submit a couple of updates, run asused again, check again, repeat until satisfied). > > The web version is also unauthenticated which means that it's open to third parties submitting requests for arbitrary LIRs. And it doesn't support ipv6, which means that it's still difficult to do resource reconciliation for v6 assignments. > > I'll admit that not everyone likes command line tools, but for those of us who continue to us asused, it's a real pity that it wasn't maintained and further developed to support ipv6. > > Nick > >

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MD5 Password Security Update Deployed
by Denis Walker 12 Jan '12

12 Jan '12

Dear colleagues, [Apologies for duplicate emails.] The RIPE NCC is pleased to announce that the implementation of the MD5 password security change has now been fully deployed. This was discussed recently on the RIPE Database Working Group mailing list. The RIPE NCC was asked to implement the technical change as outlined in this RIPE Labs article: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/denis/securing-md5-hashes-in-the-ripe-database This deployment has an impact only when you modify a MNTNER object that contains an MD5 password. This can only be done using Webupdates. You must be one of the password holders to make changes. Operations on all other object types are unchanged. The RIPE NCC will now: - Send emails to contact addresses in all MNTNER objects containing MD5 passwords recommending a password change and suggesting that a strong password be used - Perform a small MNTNER clean-up by preparing a list of unreferenced MNTNER objects and deleting those that are still unreferenced one month later. If you have not followed this discussion, we recommend that you read the RIPE Labs article to ensure that you understand the new process for maintaining MNTNER objects in the RIPE Database. Regards, Denis Walker Business Analyst RIPE NCC Database Group

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Security of MD5 hashes in the RIPE Database
by Denis Walker 10 Jan '12

10 Jan '12

Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC Database Group is pleased to announce that the implementation of the MD5 password security change is now ready for deployment. This was discussed recently on the DB WG mailing list. The Database Group was asked to implement the technical change as outlined in this RIPE Labs article: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/denis/securing-md5-hashes-in-the-ripe-database The Database Group will now: - Fully deploy these changes on Thursday 12 January 2012 - Send emails to contact addresses in all MNTNER objects containing MD5 passwords recommending a password change and suggesting that a strong password be used - Perform a small MNTNER clean-up by preparing a list of unreferenced MNTNER objects and deleting those that are still unreferenced one month later. If you have not followed this discussion, we recommend that you read the RIPE Labs article to ensure that you understand the new process for maintaining MNTNER objects in the RIPE Database. A new version of Webupdates has already been deployed that asks for a password before allowing a MNTNER object with a password to be updated. But querying MNTNER objects from the RIPE Database will not change until Thursday. The full new software has been deployed on the TEST Database. So it is no longer possible to query a full MNTNER object that contains a password authentication token from the TEST Database, except by entering the password in Webupdates. Regards, Denis Walker Business Analyst RIPE NCC Database Group

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DB email robot response and Precedence header
by Daniel Roesen 04 Jan '12

04 Jan '12

Hi, robot responses (like SUCCESS) do get sent with header From ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net, and no "Precedence: bulk" headers. So any response to those (e.g. out-of-office) will open a ticket with the ripe-dbm@ folks needlessly. For example, see NCC#2011125073. Would it make sense, to - use From: unread(a)ripe.net (like with the notification mails) and/or - add the "Precedence: bulk" header to avoid autoresponders kicking in? Best regards, Daniel -- CLUE-RIPE -- Jabber: dr(a)cluenet.de -- dr@IRCnet -- PGP: 0xA85C8AA0

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Re: [db-wg] MD5 and Password Security in the RIPE DB, Fwd: Wonder if you can help - re: PDP
by David Kessens 14 Dec '11

14 Dec '11

Emilio, Wilfried, Nigel, Emilio wrote: > My apologies for sending the previous email to the full working group. > It was intended for the Database Working Group Chairs. But now that you accidentaly mailed us, I would like to take the opportunity to mention that I believe that we don't need the PDP process invoked for these kind of changes. I hope that we as a community have not petrified that far that we cannot request the RIPE NCC to make a change to the RIPE database and be done with it. To say it in a different way, the issue at hand is much closer (but not quite the same) to a bug fix/operational issue than a public policy change. David Kessens PS And regarding the topic of shadow passwords in the RIPE database, you might be interested in the following presentation by me from 1995, page 11: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/presentations/ripe-m22-david-DB-REPORT.ps.gz --- On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:55:23AM +0100, Emilio Madaio wrote: > Hi Nigel and Wilfried, > > as promised last week to Nigel, I'd like to make a short recap and > have your attention on the following. > > I have been contacted by David Freedman in regards of a couple of > policy proposals he sent you for review and possible submission to the > PDP. Below you can find, for more details, my summaries of the proposals > and what analysis we did in the NCC. > > As you will see, both cases can be tackled by the NCC with ideas that > can be discussed by the DB WG and, if approved, easily implemented. > Among the possible decisions you can take, there are also: > > -starting discussion in the mailing list now; or > -present and discuss at RIPE 64. > > Obviously we can consider, as David asked, to start the PDP if you deem > it necessary. > > In any case, David did not have a chance to hear from you, so I kindly > ask you to let him know, either your decision or that you acknowledged > his intentions. > > And please do not hesitate to let me know how I can help. > > > I included the email he sent so far and the aforementioned proposal texts. > > > Best Regards > Emilio Madaio > Policy Development Officer > RIPE NCC > > > -----oooooooo-------- > SUMMARIES: > > 1) The first proposal's scope regards the display of the MD5 password > hashes in the "auth:" attribute. Since then the DB department published > an article recommending the technical solutions of, in short: > > -filtering out "auth:" attributes from all query results on MNTNER objects > -adjusting Webupdates to require maintainer password authorisation over > HTTPS before presenting the object to the user for updating. > > This solution can be easy and quick to implement. They only need some > discussion in the DB WG. > > 2) The second proposal's scope regards the restriction to secure > channels for all the possible mntner authentications. In this instance > as well, the NCC can provide some quick technical alternatives for the > DB WG to discuss. > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > [..] > > > Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:44:31 +0000 > From: David Freedman <david.freedman(a)eu.clara.net> > To: db-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net > Subject: My proposals > > Hi there, > > On 08/11 I sent you two policy proposals for review, concerning the > publication and use of MD5 authentication > attributes in the database. > > Since then, Denis Walker has published an article on RIPE labs describing a > potential solution to one of these issues > > https://labs.ripe.net/Members/denis/securing-md5-hashes-in-the-ripe-database > > Could you please tell me what happens next in the scope of both my proposals > and security community support for Denis' idea? > > Regards, > > David Freedman > > > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:10:35 +0000 > From: David Freedman <david.freedman(a)eu.clara.net> > To: db-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net > Subject: Re: Policy Proposal "Removal of auth: MD5-PW from WHOIS > information" > > s/scheme/schemes, apologies > > On 08/11/2011 16:03, "David Freedman" <david.freedman(a)eu.clara.net> wrote: > > >Please see below: > > > >--------------------------- > > > >Number: > >(assigned by the RIPE NCC) > > > >Policy Proposal Name: Removal of auth: MD5-PW from WHOIS information > > > >Author: > > a. David Freedman > > > >b. david.freedman(a)uk.clara.net > > > >c. Claranet > > > >Proposal Version: > >(assigned by the RIPE NCC) > > > >Submission Date: 8/11/2011 > > > >Suggested RIPE WG for discussion and publication: Database Working Group > > > >Proposal Type: > >a. new > > > >Policy Term: > >b. Indefinite > > > >Summary of proposal: > >Policy text: > >b. New policy text > > > >This is a proposal to remove the display the "auth:" attribute for auth > >type "MD5-PW" in WHOIS information, in order to increase the security of a > >number of user's mntner objects. > > > >Rationale: > >a. Arguments supporting the proposal > > > >Numerous sources have demonstrated the vulnerability of the MD5-PW to > >compromise when presented with modern compute power, a number of alternate > >"auth" scheme exist which provide far more > >security to the mntner. By allowing these attributes to be exposed in > >WHOIS information, malicious entities could direct their efforts to > >computing a plaintext input of the hash and thus > >compromise mntner objects (and hence protected resources) of their choice. > > > >b. Arguments opposing the proposal > > > >The database group state: "Since any change in the current process means > >significantly changing the behaviour of the RIPE Database* and will break > >existing use cases of the system, it is not something the RIPE NCC can > >make a decision on.", this could involve significant work for the Database > >Group. > > > >*- As an example, current Update process requires the full object > >-including the hashes for maintainer objects- to be used in the update > >message. > > > >--------------------------- > > > > > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:10:14 +0000 > From: David Freedman <david.freedman(a)eu.clara.net> > To: db-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net > Subject: New proposal : Prevention of use of MD5-PW over insecure channels > > See below > > ----------- > > Number: > (assigned by the RIPE NCC) > > Policy Proposal Name: Prevention of use of MD5-PW over insecure channels > > Author: > a. David Freedman > > b. david.freedman(a)uk.clara.net > > c. Claranet > > Proposal Version: > (assigned by the RIPE NCC) > > Submission Date: 8/11/2011 > > Suggested RIPE WG for discussion and publication: Database Working Group > > Proposal Type: > a. new > > Policy Term: > b. Indefinite > > Summary of proposal: > Policy text: > b. New policy text > > This is a proposal to ensure that all mntner authentication which makes > use of MD5-PW for an object transaction, do so over a secure channel, in > order to increase the security of such transactions. > > Rationale: > a. Arguments supporting the proposal > > Numerous sources have demonstrated the vulnerability of the MD5-PW to > compromise when presented with modern compute power, a number of alternate > "auth" schemes exist which provide far more > security to the mntner. By allowing the plaintext password to be passed > over insecure channels, information could be intercepted and the plaintext > password obtained, potentially compromising > mntner objects (and hence protected resources). > > b. Arguments opposing the proposal > > A number of object maintainers may currently make use of such insecure > channels (for example, unencrypted SMTP), these functions may be related > to legacy systems which are costly to update. > > > ----------- > > > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:03:30 +0000 > From: David Freedman <david.freedman(a)eu.clara.net> > To: db-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net > Subject: Policy Proposal "Removal of auth: MD5-PW from WHOIS information" > > Please see below: > > --------------------------- > > Number: > (assigned by the RIPE NCC) > > Policy Proposal Name: Removal of auth: MD5-PW from WHOIS information > > Author: > a. David Freedman > > b. david.freedman(a)uk.clara.net > > c. Claranet > > Proposal Version: > (assigned by the RIPE NCC) > > Submission Date: 8/11/2011 > > Suggested RIPE WG for discussion and publication: Database Working Group > > Proposal Type: > a. new > > Policy Term: > b. Indefinite > > Summary of proposal: > Policy text: > b. New policy text > > This is a proposal to remove the display the "auth:" attribute for auth > type "MD5-PW" in WHOIS information, in order to increase the security of a > number of user's mntner objects. > > Rationale: > a. Arguments supporting the proposal > > Numerous sources have demonstrated the vulnerability of the MD5-PW to > compromise when presented with modern compute power, a number of alternate > "auth" scheme exist which provide far more > security to the mntner. By allowing these attributes to be exposed in > WHOIS information, malicious entities could direct their efforts to > computing a plaintext input of the hash and thus > compromise mntner objects (and hence protected resources) of their choice. > > b. Arguments opposing the proposal > > The database group state: "Since any change in the current process means > significantly changing the behaviour of the RIPE Database* and will break > existing use cases of the system, it is not something the RIPE NCC can > make a decision on.", this could involve significant work for the Database > Group. > > *- As an example, current Update process requires the full object > -including the hashes for maintainer objects- to be used in the update > message. > > --------------------------- > > David Kessens ---

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Re: [db-wg] MD5 and Password Security in the RIPE DB, Fwd: Wonder if you can help - re: PDP
by Emilio Madaio 12 Dec '11

12 Dec '11

Dear Colleagues, My apologies for sending the previous email to the full working group. It was intended for the Database Working Group Chairs. Best Regards Emilio Madaio Policy Development Officer On 12/12/11 10:55 AM, Emilio Madaio wrote: >

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2011-06 New Policy Proposal (Abuse Contact Management in the RIPE NCC Database)
by Denis Walker 30 Nov '11

30 Nov '11

Dear Colleagues The RIPE NCC Database Group has now published an article on RIPE Labs with a detailed explanation of how we propose to implement abuse handling with an "abuse-c:" attribute referencing a ROLE object. https://labs.ripe.net/ripe-database/abuse-handling-in-the-ripe-database This issue is currently being discussed on the Anti Abuse Working Group mailing list. Please direct any comments to that list. Regards Denis Walker Business Analyst RIPE NCC Database Group

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Geolocation data prototype in the RIPE Database
by Denis Walker 07 Oct '11

07 Oct '11

Dear colleagues, At the RIPE 62 Meeting in Amsterdam the RIPE NCC Database Group was asked to investigate handling geolocation data in the RIPE Database. We now have a proof of concept prototype for discussion by the community. Based on input from a number of community sources and the subsequent presentation at RIPE 62, this prototype has two new optional attributes for storing geolocation data and language details. We have written an article about the design approach on RIPE Labs https://labs.ripe.net/Members/denis/geolocation-prototype-for-ripe-database This prototype references a sand-boxed TEST Database and does not have any pre-loaded geolocation or language data. But you can create your own data to see how easy it is to manage this new, optional information. We also have a prototype Geolocation Finder tool to search for this data. Another article on RIPE Labs shows how to create the new optional attributes and use the Geolocation Finder tool to search for this data. No changes in this sand-boxed TEST Database will affect the production RIPE or TEST Database services. The article is available at: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/denis/example-usage-of-ripe-database-geolocat… We invite comments or feedback on this design and suggestions for how to move forward if it is seen as a useful addition to the RIPE Database by the community. Regards Denis Walker Business Analyst RIPE NCC Database Group

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2nd CfP: ICIW 2012 || May 27 - June 1, 2012 - Stuttgart, Germany
by Cristina Pascual 07 Oct '11

07 Oct '11

INVITATION: ================= Please, consider to contribute to and/or forward to the appropriate groups the following opportunity to submit and publish original scientific results to ICIW 2012. The submission deadline is set to January 5, 2012. In addition, authors of selected papers will be invited to submit extended article versions to one of the IARIA Journals: http://www.iariajournals.org ================= ============== ICIW 2012 | Call for Papers =============== CALL FOR PAPERS, TUTORIALS, PANELS ICIW 2012, The Seventh International Conference on Internet and Web Applications and Services May 27 - June 1, 2012 - Stuttgart, Germany General page: http://www.iaria.org/conferences2012/ICIW12.html Call for Papers: http://www.iaria.org/conferences2012/CfPICIW12.html - regular papers - short papers (work in progress) - posters - ideas Submission page: http://www.iaria.org/conferences2012/SubmitICIW12.html Submission deadline: January 5, 2012 Sponsored by IARIA, www.iaria.org Extended versions of selected papers will be published in IARIA Journals: http://www.iariajournals.org Please note the Poster and Work in Progress options. The topics suggested by the conference can be discussed in term of concepts, state of the art, research, standards, implementations, running experiments, applications, and industrial case studies. Authors are invited to submit complete unpublished papers, which are not under review in any other conference or journal in the following, but not limited to, topic areas. All tracks are open to both research and industry contributions, in terms of Regular papers, Posters, Work in progress, Technical/marketing/business presentations, Demos, Tutorials, and Panels. Before submission, please check and comply with the Editorial rules: http://www.iaria.org/editorialrules.html ICIW 2012 Topics (topics and submission details: see CfP on the site) IWAS : Internet and Web-based Applications and Services Web technologies, frameworks, languages, mechanisms; Web applications design and development; Interaction with/from Web-based applications; Web-based applications� features; Management of Web-based applications; Evaluation of Web applications; Specialized Web applications; Aggregating multimedia documents; E-business, appliances, and services; IP Grid Management and Grid Services; IP-based convergent solutions and next generation networks; Standards, case studies and special groups on web-based applications; E-business system design, development, and management for SMEs WSSA : Web Services-based Systems and Applications Service Innovations; Service Architectures; Model-driven development of context-aware services; Context-aware service models, architectures and frameworks; Model-driven development of semantic Web services; Web services foundation, architectures, frameworks, languages; Web services architecture and business continuity; Special Web services mechanisms; Semantic Web, Ontology, and Web services; Web service applications ; Data Management aspects in Web Services; Autonomic e-Business integration and collaboration; Web service based Grid computing and P2P computing; Web services based applications for e-Commerce; Multimedia applications using Web Services; Automatic computing for Web services; Web services challenges on trust, security, performance, scalability; Enterprise Web services; Web services discovery, announcing, monitoring and management; Platforms, technologies, mechanisms and case studies; Grid architectures, middleware and toolkits ENSYS: Entertainment Systems Developing entertainment systems and applications; Platforms for entertainment systems; Speech technology & its usability for entertainment systems; Networking requirements for entertainment systems; Traffic generated by entertainment applications; QoS/SLA on entertainment systems; Reliability and high availability of entertainment systems; Identify aspects in entertainment systems; Real-time access to entertainment systems; Customized access entertainment systems; Navigation and entertainment systems; Integration and interoperability aspects in entertainment systems; Entertainment systems and applications; Networking and system support for entertainment systems; Wireless and mobile technologies for entertainment; Wireless multimedia for entertainment; Systems for music and movie distribution; Games on mobile and resource-constrained devices; Mobile video entertainment systems; Car/flight/train entertainment systems; Ubiquitous entertainment systems; Interactive television; Technologies for sport and entertainment; WiFi wireless home entertainment systems; Wearable technologies for entertainment P2PSA: P2P Systems and Applications P2P architectures, techniques, paradigms; P2P programming and data handling; P2P security features; Data and compute intensive applications; P2P networks and protocols; P2P management; P2P Trust and reputation management; Fault tolerance in P2P, quality of availability, accounting in P2P; Self-adaptiveness in P2P overlay networks; Self-configurable P2P systems; Case studies, benchmarking; Copyright and intellectual property; Electronic marketplace, Digital asset management and trading systems; Platforms, environments, testbeds ONLINE: Online Communications, Collaborative Systems, and Social Networks Theory, frameworks, mechanisms, and tools for online communication; Methodologies and languages for on-line communications; Web services and XML use for online communications; Tools for assessing online work, distributed workload; Shared business processes; Collaborative groups and systems; Theory and formalisms of group interactions; Group synergy in cooperative networks; Online gambling, gaming, children groups; Identity features, risks, jurisdiction for online communications; Specifics emergency and e-coaching on online communications; B2B and B2E cooperation; Privacy, identify, security on online communications; Individual anonymity, group trust, and confidentiality on online groups; Conflict, delegation, group selection; Community costs in collaborative groups; Building online social networks with popularity contexts, persuasion, etc.; Technology support for collaborative systems; Techniques, mechanisms, and platforms for remote cooperation SERCOMP: Service computing Adaptive Architecture; Business process integration and management; Cloud Computing; Collective Intelligence for Service Computing; Computational Intelligence; Data Mining of Actual Services; Decision Science; Digital EcoSystems Infrastructure; Economic Clusters; Economics and Economic Experiments; Game Theory; Human Modeling in Services; Intelligent Agents and Multi-Agent Systems; Intra- and Inter-enterprise services; Knowledge Discovery for Service Computing; Nature Inspired Computing Techniques for Service Computing; Optimization of Service Processes; Psychological Approaches to Services; Self Organizing Infrastructure; Sensing of Human Behaviors; Service-centric business models and their economics; Service discovery, repository and registry; Service Engineering; Service evaluation, measurements and delivery audit; Service interaction, service ontologies and service composition; Service Marketing; Service-Oriented Architecture; Service Oriented computing; Soft Computing; Society and business services (public, utility, business, healthcare, consulting, etc.); Sustainable Frameworks; Swarm Intelligence; Ubiquitous and pervasive services (technology, context, security); Value Creation in Services; Web-based basics on service modeling, deployment and maintenance SLAECE: Social and Legal Aspect of Internet Computing Principles, theories, and challenges of legal and social aspects; Strategies, modeling, and requirements engineering of legal and social aspects; Architectures, implementations, and deployment consideration of legal and social aspects; Cyber threats, emerging risks, systemic concerns, and emergency preparedness; Social computing and lifestyle computing; Service marketing and customer relationship management; Market structures and emerging business models; Emerging legal issues due to new computing environment; File / information sharing networks and user behavior; Knowledge modeling, management, and application; Negotiation and contracting as well as contract monitoring and enforcement; E-democracy, e-policy, and governance; Legal and social ontologies; Privacy and copyright in collaborative environments and social networks; Intellectual property rights; Trust, security, and privacy; Counterfeit forensic; Identity management and access control; Security and privacy in location-based services VEWAeL: Virtual Environments and Web Applications for eLearning E-Learning; Web Technologies and Tools for Educational Purposes; Services for E-Learning Platforms; Virtual Learning Environments (VLE); Course Management Systems; Web applications for Teaching; Social Implications of E-Learning; Lifelong E-learning; Teaching-Learning Experiences using the Internet for Educational Purposes; E-learning in the European Higher Education Area (EHEA) and other HE contexts; Web protocols for VLE; Security for VLE; QoS for VLE; Storage management in VLE ECC: Enterprise cloud computing Architectures for enterprise clouds; Principles, concepts and methodologies of enterprise cloud computing; Tools, technologies, methodologies and frameworks for enterprise cloud computing; Enterprise IS architectures such as application, information and technology architectures; Synergies between SOA, Grid Computing and Cloud Infrastructures; Quality of Service (QoS) models; 'Elastic' and on-demand allocation and management of resources to meet business needs; Benefits, issues and limitations of enterprise clouds; Security, data integrity, legal and governance issues for enterprise clouds; Management, monitoring an governance issues; Portability of architectures, applications and data between cloud providers; Reliability and maintenance of cloud-based business architectures; Architectures for Software as a Service, Platform as a Service and Infrastructure as a Service; Network architecture using Storage Clouds; Experience reports with designing, building and using Cloud infrastructure; Novel application architectures, best practices, case studies and surveys ------------------------------ Technical Program Committee: http://www.iaria.org/conferences2012/ComICIW12.html ====================

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Improvements to RIPE Database webforms
by Denis Walker 06 Oct '11

06 Oct '11

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC Database Group is pleased to announce some improvements to the database webforms. There is now an expanding menu on the right hand side of each form containing quick links to get to every form. You no longer need to bookmark each form and you can navigate to any other form quickly and easily. The query search results now have buttons for each object shown in the results. These buttons can be seen when you move your mouse over the object. By clicking one of these buttons, that object is opened in a Webupdates Form enabling you to either update or delete the object. Regards Denis Walker Business Analyst RIPE NCC Database Group

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RFC 2317-style Reverse DNS Delegation in the RIPE Database
by Anand Buddhdev 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

[Apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, In April 2011, Denis Walker sent a proposal to the DNS and Database Working Groups outlining some reverse DNS-related changes to the RIPE Database. You can see the full proposal here: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/maillists/archives/db-wg/2011/msg00080.html I'm happy to report that this proposal has been fully implemented. This means that: - Dashes in the third octet of a DOMAIN object are no longer allowed - Dashes in the fourth octet are now allowed A dash in the fourth octet allows for RFC 2317-style reverse DNS delegation for Provider Independent (PI) address allocations which don't fall on octet boundaries. For this second change, we converted all existing delegations into appropriate DOMAIN objects in the RIPE Database. We will update the reverse DNS "how-to" on the RIPE NCC website over the next few days. If you have any questions, please send an email to <dns(a)ripe.net>. Regards, Anand Buddhdev DNS Services, RIPE NCC

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RESTful API for create, delete and update
by Christopher Fuselier 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

Can someone please provide an update regarding RIPE's RESTful APIs for manipulating the RIPE database? The documentation <https://labs.ripe.net/ripe-database/database-api/api-documentation> points to <http://lab.db.ripe.net/whois> http://lab.db.ripe.net/whois as the URL for communicating with the RIPE and TEST databases. In my testing, transactions time out with that web service endpoint. Using a slightly different URL (http://apps.db.ripe.net/whois) queries succeed but updates do not. Could it be that the web service URL has changed? Or is the e-mail template approach still preferred? Thank you in advance... Cheers, Christopher Fuselier

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2nd CfP: MMEDIA 2012 || April 29 - May 4, 2012 - Chamonix / Mont Blanc, France
by Cristina Pascual 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

INVITATION: ================= Please, consider to contribute to and/or forward to the appropriate groups the following opportunity to submit and publish original scientific results to MMEDIA 2012. The submission deadline is set to December 5, 2011. In addition, authors of selected papers will be invited to submit extended article versions to one of the IARIA Journals: http://www.iariajournals.org ================= ============== MMEDIA 2012 | Call for Papers =============== CALL FOR PAPERS, TUTORIALS, PANELS MMEDIA 2012: The Fourth International Conferences on Advances in Multimedia April 29 - May 4, 2012 - Chamonix / Mont Blanc, France General page: http://www.iaria.org/conferences2012/MMEDIA12.html Call for Papers: http://www.iaria.org/conferences2012/CfPMMEDIA12.html - regular papers - short papers (work in progress) - posters - ideas Submission page: hhttp://www.iaria.org/conferences2012/SubmitMMEDIA12.html Submission deadline: December 5, 2011 Sponsored by IARIA, www.iaria.org Extended versions of selected papers will be published in IARIA Journals: http://www.iariajournals.org Please note the Poster and Work in Progress options. The topics suggested by the conference can be discussed in term of concepts, state of the art, research, standards, implementations, running experiments, applications, and industrial case studies. Authors are invited to submit complete unpublished papers, which are not under review in any other conference or journal in the following, but not limited to, topic areas. All tracks are open to both research and industry contributions, in terms of Regular papers, Posters, Work in progress, Technical/marketing/business presentations, Demos, Tutorials, and Panels. Before submission, please check and conform with the Editorial rules: http://www.iaria.org/editorialrules.html MMEDIA 2012 Topics (topics and submission details: see CfP on the site) Fundamentals in multimedia Multimedia systems, architecture, and applications; New multimedia platforms; Multimedia architectural specification languages; Theoretical aspects and algorithms for multimedia; Multimedia content delivery networks; Network support for multimedia data; Multimedia data storage; Multimedia meta-modeling techniques and operating systems; Multimedia signal coding and processing (audio, video, image); Multimedia applications (telepresence, triple-play, quadruple-play, �); Multimedia tools (authoring, analyzing, editing, browsing, �); Computational multimedia intelligence (fuzzy logic, neural networks, genetic algorithms, �); Intelligent agents for multimedia content creation, distribution, and analysis; Multimedia networking; Wired and wireless multimedia systems; Distributed multimedia systems; Multisensor data integration and fusion; Multimedia and P2P; Multimedia standards Multimedia content and modeling Interfaces for multimedia creation; Multimedia streaming and services; Image modeling and editing; Audio modeling and transformation; Video modeling and transformation; Image recognition; Multimedia databases; Multimedia coding and encryption; Multimedia modeling for learning content; Multimedia description languages; Image clustering; Media fusion for communication and presentation Self-organizing multimedia architectures Self-organization in multimedia systems; Self-organization in multimedia communities; Self-organized multimedia networks; Multimedia content distribution and consumption; Adaptive multimedia interfaces; Multimedia retrieval Multimedia content-based retrieval and analysis Multimodal data analysis; Multimedia databases; Semi-automatic and automatic methods for multimedia annotation; Image/video/audio databases; Content-based image retrieval; Semantics-based search and integration of multimedia and digital content; Multimedia data modeling, indexing, and mining; Statistical modeling of multimedia data; Multimedia extraction and annotation; Content search/browsing/retrieval; Internet imaging and multimedia; Multimodal content analysis; Multimedia abstraction and summarization; Semantic analysis of multimedia data; Media assimilation and fusion Perception and cognition for multimedia users Quality of experience; Relevance feedback; Human-computer interaction; Multimodal interaction; Multimodal user interfaces; Mobile user-centered interfaces; Peer-to-peer multimedia systems and streaming; Pervasive and interactive multimedia systems (digital TV, mobile systems, gaming,�); Multimedia in personal, sensor and ad-hoc networks; Visualization and virtual reality; Intelligent browsing and visualization; Perception and cognition; Perception and modeling of the environment; Multimedia collaboration; Social networking Multimedia ontology Multimedia semantics; Emergent semantics; Media ontology learning; Ontology for media web mining; Multimedia ontologies; Multimedia information management; Approaches using metadata standards; Conceptual clustering; Modeling and recognition of visual objects and actions Mobile and ubiquitous multimedia Architectures, protocols, and algorithms for multimedia mobility; Middleware and distributed computing support for mobile and ubiquitous multimedia; Mobile and ubiquitous multimedia in intelligent transportation systems; Enabling platforms for mobile multimedia; Roaming and limited bandwidth; Intermittent connectivity; Streaming mobile multimedia; Mobile multimedia software architectures; Mobile multimedia applications and services; Communication and cooperation via mobile multimedia; Business models for mobile multimedia; Provisioning of mobile multimedia services; Context-aware mobile and ubiquitous multimedia; Mobile computer graphics, games and entertainment; Mobile and ubiquitous multimedia in ad hoc networks; Personalization, privacy and security in mobile multimedia; Social and regulatory aspects of mobile multimedia; Multimedia in the Extended Home; Ubiquitous/Seamless content sharing Multimedia services Reliability, availability, serviceability of multimedia services; Multimedia content distribution services; Real-time multimedia services; Audio-visual multimedia services; Multimedia signal processing and communications; Media representation and algorithms; Audio, image, video processing, coding and compression; Multimedia database, content delivery and transport; Multimedia service protocols; Mobility of multimedia services; Internet telephony and hypermedia technologies and systems; Media enabled eCommerce service; Case studies, field trials and evaluation of new multimedia services Multimedia applications Real-time interactive multimedia applications Adaptive and context-aware multimedia applications; Ambiance multimedia applications; Media applications on mobile devices; Multi-modal interaction; Virtual environments; Personalization; Collaboration, contextual metadata, collaborative tagging; Web applications; Multimedia authoring; Multimedia-enabled new applications (eLearning, entertainment,�..); Cooperative networks and applications; Mobile multimedia applications & services; Semantic metadata for mobile applications; Semantics enabled multimedia applications; Semantics enabled networks and middleware for multimedia applications; Wireless ad-hoc and sensor networks/RFID applications Industrial use-cases and applications Multimedia security and content protection Multimedia security (watermark, encryption,� ); Mobile multimedia systems and services; Security, privacy, and cryptographic protocols; Network security issues and protocols; Key management and authentication; Authentication and access control; Intrusion detection and prevention; Content protection and digital rights management; Trusted computing; Information hiding; Protection of user-generated content Multimedia control and management Wireless and mobile multimedia network management; Multimedia measurement, control, and management; Content management and delivery; IP multimedia system operations and management; Managing the quality of experience and quality of service; Measuring the quality of performance in multimedia systems; Mobile multimedia network traffic engineering and optimization; Monitoring and managing mobile multimedia; Resource reservation for multimedia services; Multicast and broadcast multimedia service management; Management of service oriented architectures; Pricing, accounting and billing for multimedia services Committee: http://www.iaria.org/conferences2012/ComMMEDIA12.html ====================

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Re: [db-wg] New free text search for RIPE Database
by Hank Nussbacher 14 Sep '11

14 Sep '11

At 14:13 10/11/2010 +0100, Denis Walker wrote: Old thread: In the old system one could find all objects that had a specific person listed. In the new system, you state that you don't index role or person objects but you also don't index the strings tech-c or admin-c inside inetnum objects for example. This makes it then impossible to find what objects a person is listed on. Imagine someone retires and you want to change all his/her objects that list them - it used to be able to be done with the old free text search. The new one doesn't allow it. Regards, Hank >Dear Hank > >Currently this new search is only a prototype. But it works much more >effectively than the search you referenced below. It is more powerful, >has more features and can be more easily scaled and adapted to changing >underlying data. The current search, based on glimpse, is end of life. >If the prototype meets users needs then we will replace glimpse with >this new service. > >Regards >Denis Walker >Business Analyst >RIPE NCC Database Group > >Hank Nussbacher wrote: > > At 12:19 10/11/2010 +0100, Mirjam Kuehne wrote: > > > >> Dear colleagues, > >> > >> Our RIPE Database developers implemented a new free text search for > >> the RIPE Database. Read details on RIPE Labs: > >> > >> http://labs.ripe.net/Members/Paul_P_/full-text-search-in-the-ripe-database > >> > > > > Is this meant to replace?: > > http://www.ripe.net/db/whois-free.html > > > > Regards, > > Hank > > > >

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Call for agenda items, DB-WG Meeting during RIPE63, Vienna, AT
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 13 Sep '11

13 Sep '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear DB-WG folks, planning activities for the next RIPE Meeting - RIPE63 in Vienna, AT, October 31 - November 4, 2011, have already started - thus this call for agenda items. Please submit (to the WG list!) your item requests and|or suggest topics for discussion to be included in the draft agenda! (I plan to distribute the 1st version of the draft agenda by the end of CW37) Please note that the DataBase-WG meeting is *at the moment* scheduled for *Thursday* (starting at 16:00 local time). This is according to the *draft* meeting plan - which may still need to be changed as we get closer to the meeting date! The overall (draft) RIPE 63 meeting outline is already available at http://ripe63.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/ Looking forward to a successful meeting and see you here in Vienna, Wilfried. PS: please note that Tuesday, November 1st is local holiday in Austria! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) iQCVAwUBTm8fQd/RXX7wrLNpAQJpmAQAs+AkHFvqhgYiMw9Pkq8kb1+Es8NVSETH 3S8Q4Qs0RKM6EZ+Oh1r36v3/EYpU//QafnrgyphT/YIyd9wAWICS5j/yN70LzNUe TaMAysTxdYu6EWEFo3q/YHktfKtgfcLWIJMsVf96BG2S2i2OvWau+RBThQHFYEuW +yTT8I9RnwA= =yW8S -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RIPE Database Web Services Outage Report
by Denis Walker 30 Aug '11

30 Aug '11

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear colleagues, Between approximately 12:30 and 13:30 (UTC) on 30 August 2011, we experienced an outage of the RIPE Database Web Services. During this period, it was not possible to access any of the web-based interfaces. This includes Webupdates, Query and Full Text Search. Core database services were not affected. This includes updates sent via Syncupdates or the email interface and queries made to port 43. We apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused. Regards, Denis Walker Business Analyst RIPE NCC Database Group

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