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draft agenda (V1) for DB-WG meeting, RIPE 48, Amsterdam, NL
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

Dear DB-WG community, below please find Version 1 of the draft agenda for the DB-WG meeting at RIPE48 in Amsterdam, NL. In order to refine this 1st draft, I'd like to ask - Andrew Newton to confirm - or cancel - the CRISP item (I was told about that indirectly by NCC staff), and tell us a bit about time-slot length and content, - Niall and Randy: who's going to present the abuse proposal, - every individual or group mentioned in the list of topics to please check the lengh of the timeslot allocated and/or reply _to me privately, pls._ with information missing or any change requests. Pls. let me know asap if I missed any of the topic proposals and/or requests. If so, it was not done on purpose!! Looking forward to see many of you again in Amsterdam! Wilfried. ++++++++ A. Administrative Matters - scribe - list of participants - agenda - minutes B. DB Operational Update (Shane K., RIPE NCC) [~20 min] C. ERX Phase 3 (Leo V., RIPE NCC) [~15 min] D. Value "ZZ" for country: attribute (Engin G., RIPE NCC) [~10 min] E. CRISP/Joint-Whois status [??? min] . report by Andrew Newton, VeriSign [t.b.c.] . follow-up by RIPE NCC [t.b.c.] F. irt: / abuse: [60+ min] . proposal by Niall O'R. & Randy B. . statistics by Marco H. Y. Input from other WGs Z. AOB -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-APR-2004 12:56:30 UTC

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ORGANISATION objects in the RIPE Whois Database
by DB-News 19 Apr '04

19 Apr '04

Dear Colleagues, (apologies for duplicate messages) The RIPE NCC is pleased to announce that as of 17, April 2004, a new type of object, the ORGANISATION object, is available in the RIPE Whois Database. You can find more information about the ORGANISATION object at: http://www.ripe.net/db/organisation.html As part of the transition process, the RIPE NCC has: - created ORGANISATION objects for LIRs (around 4000 ORGANISATION objects) - updated LIR allocation objects to include "org:" attributes pointing to these new ORGANISATION objects (around 6500 INETNUM/INET6NUM objects) LIRs can update parts of their ORGANISATION objects through the ORGANISATION Object Editor available through the LIR Portal: https://lirportal.ripe.net/lirportal/index.html Please contact <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net> for any questions. Best Regards, -- Engin Gunduz RIPE NCC Software Engineering Department

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ANNOUNCEMENT Maintenance on Whois Server Regarding ORGANISATION Object
by DB-News 15 Apr '04

15 Apr '04

Dear Colleagues, [apologies for duplicate messages] On Saturday April 17, 2004, the RIPE NCC will perform maintenance work on the whois server. The aim of the maintenance is to upgrade the whois server to add support for a new object type, the organisation object. The maintenance is scheduled to start at 8:00 UTC (10:00 Amsterdam time) and expected to last around 10 hours. During the maintenance: - e-mail updates to <auto-dbm(a)ripe.net> will be queued to be processed after the maintenance - webupdates and syncupdates interfaces will NOT be available - whois query service will NOT be interrupted The maintenance work will consist of: - upgrading the whois software - creating ORGANISATION objects for LIRs - updating LIRs' allocation objects to have "org:" attributes pointing to these new ORGANISATION objects. We are sorry for any inconvenience this may cause. Please contact <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net> for any questions. Best regards, -- Engin Gunduz RIPE NCC Software Engineering Department

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Re: [db-wg] Action item 47.2: Proposal for Adding Abuse Contact
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 14 Apr '04

14 Apr '04

>To be sure, last meeting I had the count on the number of inet(6)num >objects having a mnt-irt and the number having a remarks: *abuse* >attribute. > >The request is to extend this on the actual number of IP-addresses covered >by both methods ? Correct, 'cause the single entry you can obtain by asking for > whois -h whois.ripe.net -cr 193.171.2.3 inetnum: 193.170.0.0 - 193.171.255.255 [ ... ] status: ALLOCATED UNSPECIFIED mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT mnt-lower: ACONET-LIR-MNT mnt-irt: IRT-ACOnet-CERT [ ... ] actually covers a /15 range... > I will try to extend my script (grep | wc -l) a bit to >get this info, hopefully during next weekend but at least in time for the >next meeting. thanks! >Grtx, > >MarcoH Wilfried.

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call for agenda items, DB-WG, RIPE48 @AMS
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 14 Apr '04

14 Apr '04

Dear DB WG! Our next meeting is scheduled for less than a month from today, so it is time to ask for agenda items for the draft agenda. Support items for the logistics will be provided by Nigel T. and myself, the meet on the bones should be suggested from "your" end:-) Looking forward to meet many of you in Amsterdam! Wilfried ( https://cert.aco.net/ ) _________________________________:_____________________________________ Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber(a)CC.UniVie.ac.at UniVie Computer Center - ACOnet : Tel: +43 1 4277 - 140 33 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4277 - 9 140 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : RIPE-DB: WW144, PGP keyID 0xF0ACB369 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...there's no place like 127.0.0.1 (or is it ::1 ?)

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new release of ripe_wrap
by TAYON, Julien 06 Apr '04

06 Apr '04

Hello, I am pleased to annouce a release of a new version of neuf-telecom ripe_wrap tool. The use is to actually see if you are between 50% & 100% of the IPv4 assingment request you made to the RIPE, and to help you spot netname for which you have declared more than the AW (to some limitations though). It gives you a synthetic view of your use per inetnums & netnames & registrar... It crosses Lirportal information on IPv4 assignement, with direct query on the whois database. There is now : - a home page ; - a mailing-list ; - a CVS ; - a quite explicit documentation... http://ripe.est-unique.net I just created the domain, and it has not yet been propagated worldwide :) It is not perfect and can be largely improved. Friendly, -- julien.tayon(a)neuf.com +33 (0)1 70 18 14 45 Gestion des adresses IPs, BU Data n9uf telecom 40 - 42 Quai du Point du Jour 92659 Boulogne Billancourt

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Beta release of Whois S/W with organisation object
by Engin Gunduz 06 Apr '04

06 Apr '04

Dear Colleagues, [Apologies for duplicate mails] We have made available the beta version of RIPE Whois Software that supports the organisation object. You can find it at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/dbase/software/ripe-dbase-3.2.0-org-obj-beta.tar.gz Plese note that the software has been tested only on Solaris 8 environment. Please contact me at <engin(a)ripe.net> for any questions/comments. Best regards, -- Engin Gunduz RIPE NCC Software Engineering Department

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New database Features
by Denis Walker 25 Mar '04

25 Mar '04

Dear Colleagues, [Apologies for duplicate mails] We have recently installed an updated version of the Whois software and Database update software. As well as some bug fixes there are three new features in the Database software. X.509 ----- This is now fully implemented. You are able to create the new X.509 KEY-CERT objects and reference these in the "auth:" lines of a maintainer. You can now use X.509 authentication with all our update methods: mail, syncupdates and webupdates. There is a link to the X.509 enabled webupdates script from the RIPE Whois Database page of the RIPE NCC web site: http://www.ripe.net/db/index.html The direct link is: https://www.ripe.net/perl/webupdates-x509.pl For documentation please refer to: http://www.ripe.net/db/x509.html You may also wish to check some other updated documents on security of objects: http://www.ripe.net/db/security.html http://www.ripe.net/db/Maintainer_Creation_Procedure.html http://www.ripe.net/db/pgp.html CIDR notation for inetnum creation. ---------------------------------- We now allow the use of CIDR notation when creating INETNUM objects. The CIDR string is replaced by the expanded range notation before the object is processed. This feature is ONLY permitted when creating an object. For example if the following object is submitted to the RIPE Database: inetnum: 1.2.0.0/16 before any further processing is done it will be converted to: inetnum: 1.2.0.0 - 1.2.255.255 A warning message will be added to the acknowledgement reply. It is now standard policy to add a warning if any changes are made to the submitted data. Prefix range lists for "mnt-routes:" ---------------------------------- The "mnt-routes:" attribute's syntax has been extended to allow prefix range lists. This will enable people to specify which maintainer has to authorise the creation of the specific routes. As an example: mnt-routes: MY-MNT { 20.34.0.0/1617-18, 20.34.0.0/16^- } mnt-routes: NOT-MY-MNT { ANY } Support for the previous syntax is unchanged. The extended syntax complies with RFC2725 which can be found at: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/rfc/rfc2725.txt For questions and comments please contact <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net>. Best regards, -- Denis Walker RIPE NCC Software Engineering Department

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Announcement: Changes to the ripe-dbm and auto-dbm acknowledgments
by Timur Bakeyev 23 Mar '04

23 Mar '04

Dear Colleagues, After 24 of March acknowledgments will be sent to all incoming mails send to <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net>. This feature was promised to the community on the last RIPE meeting. Addition of this new feature has required changes to the way how acknowledgments are sent from <auto-dbm(a)ripe.net>. We realize that such a change may have an impact to the way how mails are processed by our customers, so here is the short description of the key changes: * All the acknowledgments will be sent with the 'Return-Path:' set to <>. * 'From:' field will point to the unattended mail address <unread(a)ripe.net>. This should protect us from the replies of the automated mail tools and mailer daemons. We are using the 'Auto-Submitted:' field to denote auto generated mail responses, as it is proposed in the draft RFC "Recommendations for Automatic Responses to Electronic Mail", available at: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/internet-drafts/draft-moore-auto-email-response-05.txt The widely recognized 'Precedence: bulk' mail header is used as well. There are two types of acknowledgments - ACK and NOTIFY, that are send by <auto-dbm(a)ripe.net>. ACKs are sent as the direct result of the updates of the Whois data. NOTIFYs are sent in the case when the updated object has 'notify:' or 'mnt-by:' fields or when an update fails to pass authorization check. Please consult the RIPE Database Reference Manual for farther details: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/databaseref-manual.html#3.5 For the mail of ACK type: * The 'Reply-To:' field will be set to the <auto-dbm(a)ripe.net>. * 'Auto-Submitted:' will be set to the 'auto-replied' value. For mails of NOTIFY type: * The 'Reply-To:' field will be set to <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net>. * 'Auto-Submitted' field will be set to the 'auto-generated' value. With best regards, Timur Bakeyev RIPE NCC

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IRT object creation is easy
by Jeroen Massar 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, For the sake of promotion of the IRT object and for checking out if it really is easy creating it I requested an IRT object from RIPE, who have assigned it without much problems. The main problem was me not filling the form in correctly and after that being so stupid not having added the correct PGP key *whistle* and indeed it won't authenticate if the mnt-irt authentication is not satisified, thus that part is now also succesfully tested. Anyhow, it *is* easy getting it and if we (SixXS) can get it, then any ISP should be able to get it. Almost all the inet6nums assigned to the SixXS project now have a mnt-irt on their /40's, the other POPs will follow. Thus I can now say that: $ lftp ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/dbase/split $ ls - -rw-r--r-- 1 ftpuser ftpgroup 176490 Mar 16 01:42 ripe.db.inet6num.gz $ get ripe.db.inet6num.gz $ gunzip ripe.db.inet6num.gz $ grep -cE inet6num ripe.db.inet6num 4206 $ grep -cE "mnt-by:.*SIXXS-MNT" ripe.db.inet6num 1872 1872/4206*100% ~= 44.50% of the inet6num's is now protected by the IRT-SIXXS object by adding about 10 mnt-irt attributes to 10 different objects. $ grep -c "mnt-irt:" ripe.db.inet6num ripe.db.inet6num 102 Add 6 to that at the moment, as the updated objects are not in this splitted file yet. For that matter, there are also other ISP's adding mnt's: $ cat ripe.db.inet6num |grep -E mnt-irt | sort | uniq -c 21 mnt-irt: IRT-AA 1 mnt-irt: IRT-ACOnet-CERT 49 mnt-irt: IRT-DFN-CERT 5 mnt-irt: IRT-ITGATE 2 mnt-irt: IRT-SPEEDKOM1 1 mnt-irt: IRT-UK 23 mnt-irt: irt-CERT-NL It would also be quite fast to deploy more mnt-irt's by making the field mandatory for new allocations forcing ISP's to make use of the object. Because of the above I don't see a reason for a abuse-c or similar object. If there is a need for adding things like 'spam' or 'ddos' etc then these should be added to the IRT object and not to a new one. Now everybody go request an IRT object and get it over with. In total it will probably cost you a max of 2 hours and I think that can be really worth it as when it is being used we can then tell abuse tool writers where to look. Handy docs: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-47/presentations/ripe47-db-irt.pdf http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/irt-object.html Greets, Jeroen -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Unfix PGP for Outlook Comment: Jeroen Massar / http://unfix.org/~jeroen/ iQBGBAERAgAQCRApqihSMz58IwUCQFZd8QAAxRMAn22KiziDgieySrdDQele+peb DXCPAJ9FwYSfaZy9XeU3SPK0gqkYM2a5LA== =ZDFN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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