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Agenda V3
by Titley, Nigel 16 Sep '04

16 Sep '04

Gentlefolk, Following a kind offer by Shane Kerr to give a run down on CRISP please find version 3 of the DB WG agenda. Nigel -- Nigel Titley Peering Coordinator, FLAG Telecom +44 20 7478 9579 ********************************************************************** This e-mail message is confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and contains information which is or may be confidential, non-public or legally privileged. Any dissemination or distribution of this message other than to its intended recipient is strictly prohibited. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose the contents to any other person. If you have received this message in error, please notify us by email to postmaster(a)flagtelecom.com immediately and delete the original message and all copies from all locations in your computer systems. This e-mail has been swept by Mailsweeper TM for viruses. However, FLAG Telecom cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses. ********************************************************************** This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - www.mailcontrol.com

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RE: [db-wg] draft agenda (V1) for DB-WG meeting, RIPE 49, Manches ter, UK
by Titley, Nigel 15 Sep '04

15 Sep '04

MarcoH wrote: > Hate to come up with it again, but there are various actions points > open > on the abuse-c stuff. One of them lists the 'implement whatever > concensus there is on the mailinglist'. > > These should already be on the agenda as open action points, but it > might > be worth planning some time for discussion or at least an overview of > what > the outcome of the mail discussion was. Sounds like a good idea. Do we have any volunteers to do a short presentation on where we got to? > It's hard to say there is consensus on this subject, although in they > end there weren't much comments posted and everybody seems to be > happy (or > tired of it). I think it just fizzled out. I'm not sure that we got to any consensus. Nigel -- Nigel Titley Peering Coordinator, FLAG Telecom +44 20 7478 9579 ********************************************************************** This e-mail message is confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and contains information which is or may be confidential, non-public or legally privileged. Any dissemination or distribution of this message other than to its intended recipient is strictly prohibited. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose the contents to any other person. If you have received this message in error, please notify us by email to postmaster(a)flagtelecom.com immediately and delete the original message and all copies from all locations in your computer systems. This e-mail has been swept by Mailsweeper TM for viruses. However, FLAG Telecom cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses. ********************************************************************** This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - www.mailcontrol.com

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draft agenda (V1) for DB-WG meeting, RIPE 49, Manchester, UK
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

Dear DB-WG community, attached please find the draft agenda V1 for the DB-WG meeting during RIPE49 in Manchester, UK. As some of us have still been on vacation recently, we may have to update the draft agenda as we get closer to the meeting date. Please feel free to propose additional topics by either replying to the WG mailing list or in private mail to Nigel (who has volunteered to manage the meeting in Manchester - thank you very much!) and myself. Have a nice and successful meeting in Manchester! Wilfried. ++++++++ A. Administrative Matters - scribe - list of participants - agenda - minutes - "remote participation" coordination (if needed) - meeting schedule for 2005 B. DB Operational Update (N.N., RIPE NCC) tbc [~20 min] C. ERX Report [196/8, 198/8] (Leo V., RIPE NCC) [~15 min] D. RAToolSet software maintenance (N.N., RIPE NCC) tbc [~10 min] E. Routing Registry Courses (Vesna M., RIPE NCC) [~05 min] Y. Input from other WGs Z. AOB -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-SEP-2004 12:55:00 UTC

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Re: [db-wg] domain: object normalization
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

I'd like to come back to the *original* question or suggestion: to teach the DB software to accept FQDN notation (trailing ".") for lookup keys that denote domain names. Pro / Con? As a dumb user of the DB I definitely stumble into that one myself, sometimes, so I am in favour of this (hopefully simple?) change. Btw, if this gets implemented, it should also work for the referral domain objects! Wilfried.

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Draft Agenda V2
by Titley, Nigel 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

Folks, Following the discussion about abuse, Marco has agreed to give a short round up. This gives us version 2 of the Agenda Nigel +++++++ A. Administrative Matters - scribe - list of participants - agenda - minutes - "remote participation" coordination (if needed) - meeting schedule for 2005 B. DB Operational Update (N.N., RIPE NCC) tbc [~20 min] C. ERX Report [196/8, 198/8] (Leo V., RIPE NCC) [~15 min] D. RAToolSet software maintenance (N.N., RIPE NCC) tbc [~10 min] E. Routing Registry Courses (Vesna M., RIPE NCC) [~05 min] F. IRT/Abuse roundup (MarcoH) [~15 min] Y. Input from other WGs Z. AOB -- Nigel Titley Peering Coordinator, FLAG Telecom +44 20 7478 9579 ********************************************************************** This e-mail message is confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and contains information which is or may be confidential, non-public or legally privileged. Any dissemination or distribution of this message other than to its intended recipient is strictly prohibited. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose the contents to any other person. If you have received this message in error, please notify us by email to postmaster(a)flagtelecom.com immediately and delete the original message and all copies from all locations in your computer systems. This e-mail has been swept by Mailsweeper TM for viruses. However, FLAG Telecom cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses. ********************************************************************** This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - www.mailcontrol.com

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Draft Minutes of the DB WG, version 2
by Titley, Nigel 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

Folks, This is the second draft of the minutes from the DB-WG RIPE 48. A very minor change has been made to item C. All actions are unchanged. Please check for your actions and try and report back. For reference I have open actions against RIPE NCC Wilfried Woeber Randy Bush + Niall O'Reilly Shane Kerr Nigel Titley Best regards Nigel -- Nigel Titley Peering Coordinator, FLAG Telecom +44 20 7478 9579 ********************************************************************** This e-mail message is confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and contains information which is or may be confidential, non-public or legally privileged. Any dissemination or distribution of this message other than to its intended recipient is strictly prohibited. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose the contents to any other person. If you have received this message in error, please notify us by email to postmaster(a)flagtelecom.com immediately and delete the original message and all copies from all locations in your computer systems. This e-mail has been swept by Mailsweeper TM for viruses. However, FLAG Telecom cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses. ********************************************************************** This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - www.mailcontrol.com

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Poetry object
by Titley, Nigel 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

In checking through the minutes and actions I note an action [AP48.3] on myself to clarify the issue of tech-c on the proposed poem: object. My proposal is that to be consistent we should have the tech-c attribute on both the Poem: and the Poetic-form: object. I also note Ulrich's suggestion that we should add the mnt-irt attribute to the Poem: object in order to provide a means of reporting abuse of (or by) the poem, and agree that this could be useful. Hopefully its inclusion at this early stage of the proceedings will allow tool-writers to make use of it rather than parsing lists of changed: attributes. I don't think we need the irt-mnt attribute on the Poetic-form object, but I'm willing to be persuaded. Please could I have comments on this, with the hope that we can tie off this action in Manchester, and get the new objects into the database. Best regards Nigel -- Nigel Titley Peering Coordinator, FLAG Telecom +44 20 7478 9579 ********************************************************************** This e-mail message is confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and contains information which is or may be confidential, non-public or legally privileged. Any dissemination or distribution of this message other than to its intended recipient is strictly prohibited. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose the contents to any other person. If you have received this message in error, please notify us by email to postmaster(a)flagtelecom.com immediately and delete the original message and all copies from all locations in your computer systems. This e-mail has been swept by Mailsweeper TM for viruses. However, FLAG Telecom cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses. ********************************************************************** This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - www.mailcontrol.com

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RE: [db-wg] draft agenda (V1) for DB-WG meeting, RIPE 49, Manches ter, UK
by Titley, Nigel 10 Sep '04

10 Sep '04

MarcoH wrote: > On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 04:44:39PM +0100, Titley, Nigel wrote: >> Sounds like a good idea. Do we have any volunteers to do a short >> presentation on where we got to? > > Happy to do it again, people who are not coming to manchester and do > want to give input, please mail me or the list. Great, how long a slot would you like? Nigel -- Nigel Titley Peering Coordinator, FLAG Telecom +44 20 7478 9579 ********************************************************************** This e-mail message is confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and contains information which is or may be confidential, non-public or legally privileged. Any dissemination or distribution of this message other than to its intended recipient is strictly prohibited. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose the contents to any other person. If you have received this message in error, please notify us by email to postmaster(a)flagtelecom.com immediately and delete the original message and all copies from all locations in your computer systems. This e-mail has been swept by Mailsweeper TM for viruses. However, FLAG Telecom cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses. ********************************************************************** This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - www.mailcontrol.com

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domain: object normalization
by Pim van Pelt 06 Sep '04

06 Sep '04

Hi, I keep on bumping into something with the RIPE database. I'm used to the pedantic trailing dot in hostnames, such as 'www.bit.nl.'; I also always write domains like so: '122.109.193.in-addr.arpa.'. $ whois -h whois.ripe.net 122.109.193.in-addr.arpa. % This is the RIPE Whois server. % The objects are in RPSL format. % % Rights restricted by copyright. % See http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/copyright.html %ERROR:101: no entries found % % No entries found in the selected source(s). Without the trailing dot, this works just fine. Is it feasable to have the scanner normalize the hostname/domain into something that your backend can look up ? -- Met vriendelijke groet, BIT BV / Ing P.B. van Pelt PBVP1-RIPE (PGPKEY-4DCA7E5E)

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call for agenda items, DB-WG, RIPE49 @ Manchester
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 31 Aug '04

31 Aug '04

Dear DB WG! The next DB-WG meeting is scheduled for week 39, 2004 in Manchester. Thus it is time again to ask for agenda items for the draft agenda. The "regular" items for the logistics will be provided by Nigel T. and myself, we will again have some contributions from the RIPE NCC, and whatever is contributed by your suggestions! Please note that the WG meeting will be managed by Nigel Titley as I am unable to come to Manchester this time - due to other events being scheduled for the very same week :-( Have a nice and successful meeting and get-together in Manchester! Wilfried ( https://cert.aco.net/ ) _________________________________:_____________________________________ Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber(a)CC.UniVie.ac.at UniVie Computer Center - ACOnet : Tel: +43 1 4277 - 140 33 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4277 - 9 140 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : RIPE-DB: WW144, PGP keyID 0xF0ACB369 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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