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19 Dec '97

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[Global-Marketplace] Free Subscription
by Global-Marketplace-Digest 19 Dec '97

19 Dec '97

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Lasers/Optics/Optical Tables - Save!
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07 Dec '97

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RE: fancy route objects
by Paul Dyke 04 Nov '97

04 Nov '97

The entry by myself was generated by RIPE as an error to an email. I did try to delete it but have had no success. Can you help. Regards Paul Dyke -----Original Message----- From: Gabor Kiss (Bitman) [SMTP:kissg@sztaki.hu] Sent: 03 November 1997 12:20 To: ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net Cc: db-wg(a)ripe.net; Paul.Dyke(a)bt.net; bridge(a)unisource.ch; gaga(a)elte.hu Subject: fancy route objects Dear Colleagues, Are there these route objects correct (is this some very new feature?) or they come from some software bug? Three independent user can't get mad the same time. Note: these objects cannot be queried. I've browsed the mirrored DB file. Gabor *rt: 127.255.255.255/24 *de: TAT GmbH Systeme der grafische Datenverarbeit *or: AS2856 *mb: BTNET-MNT *ch: Paul.Dyke(a)bt.net 970916 *so: RIPE *rt: 127.255.255.255/16 *de: upstream provider: Swisscom (formerly Unisource Business Networks) *or: AS3303 *mb: CH-UNISOURCE-MNT *ch: bridge(a)unisource.ch 971017 *so: RIPE *rt: 127.255.255.255/24 *de: upstream provider: Swisscom (formerly Unisource Business Networks) *or: AS3303 *mb: CH-UNISOURCE-MNT *ch: bridge(a)unisource.ch 971017 *so: RIPE *rt: 127.255.255.255/23 *de: HU-CEU *or: AS2012 *mb: AS2012-MNT *ch: gaga(a)elte.hu 971027 *so: RIPE

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IMPORTANT; Aut-num objects.
by RIPE Database Administration 03 Nov '97

03 Nov '97

Dear Colleagues, The data file and index file of the aut-num objects were corrupted this morning. This caused the aut-num objects not to be available. We regenerated the indexes. However, we discovered that some aut-num objects were missing. Thus, we rebuilt the data file using a back-up copy and generated new indexes. The aut-num objects file was reliable until 00:00 hours UTC on Monday, 3 November. The whois service was reliable again at 17:00 hours UTC this evening and the ftp copy of the aut-num objects was valid again at 20:00 hours UTC tonight. We are aware that this may have caused you some inconvenience; we therefore fixed the problem as fast as we could. If you use the data in the aut-num objects file as a basis for build routing tables or any similar purpose, we recommend that you obtain a new copy of this data from our ftp-site. Only the aut-num objects were affected this morning. The other database objects appeared not to be affected. If you have anymore questions, please contact <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net>. Regards, Ambrose Magee ____________________________ RIPE Database Administration.

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Re: Who should do entries in RIPE database?
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 03 Nov '97

03 Nov '97

>There is another problem too: some objects do have a mnt-by, however the >mntner has auth: NONE! :( Can we assume that these objects are well maintained? >My answer is: no. I wouldn't follow that particular line of reasoning! The fact that you/he/she/someone does not *restrict access* to objects does not mean that the maintainer does not *maintain* the objects!? I think we're still mixing aspects of - access rights to objects (=access authorization) - access rights to "registry spaces" (=object creation) - authentication & identification (=credibility of data) and last but not least - object aging and checkpointing, dangling pointers, non-ref.s, duplicates etc. >Janos > >PS. I have seen this with both inetnum and route objects. Wilfried.

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fancy route objects
by Gabor Kiss (Bitman) 03 Nov '97

03 Nov '97

Dear Colleagues, Are there these route objects correct (is this some very new feature?) or they come from some software bug? Three independent user can't get mad the same time. Note: these objects cannot be queried. I've browsed the mirrored DB file. Gabor *rt: 127.255.255.255/24 *de: TAT GmbH Systeme der grafische Datenverarbeit *or: AS2856 *mb: BTNET-MNT *ch: Paul.Dyke(a)bt.net 970916 *so: RIPE *rt: 127.255.255.255/16 *de: upstream provider: Swisscom (formerly Unisource Business Networks) *or: AS3303 *mb: CH-UNISOURCE-MNT *ch: bridge(a)unisource.ch 971017 *so: RIPE *rt: 127.255.255.255/24 *de: upstream provider: Swisscom (formerly Unisource Business Networks) *or: AS3303 *mb: CH-UNISOURCE-MNT *ch: bridge(a)unisource.ch 971017 *so: RIPE *rt: 127.255.255.255/23 *de: HU-CEU *or: AS2012 *mb: AS2012-MNT *ch: gaga(a)elte.hu 971027 *so: RIPE

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Re: Who should do entries in RIPE database?
by zsako＠banknet.net 03 Nov '97

03 Nov '97

> From owner-db-wg(a)ripe.net Mon Nov 3 11:27:09 1997 > > What about creating two databases? (Two categories of objects.) > > One for objects sent by non-registries, > > and one for well maintained, authentic objects. > > This may be an orthogonal categorization. Sorry, but many of the duplicates > (triplicates ...) already carry the "mnt-by" attribute, sometimes > even two instances the same one. There is another problem too: some objects do have a mnt-by, however the mntner has auth: NONE! :( Can we assume that these objects are well maintained? My answer is: no. Janos PS. I have seen this with both inetnum and route objects.

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Re: Who should do entries in RIPE database?
by Gabor Kiss (Bitman) 03 Nov '97

03 Nov '97

> - Last but not least we could think about "closing" the DB for public, > that is anonymous, update or registration of objects. I think *that* > would require *very* careful consideration, discussion, and > establishing a broad consensus across (all of) the RIPE-WGs. > I'd also expect considerable impact on activities like RIDE. I got further (not too serious) ideas: What about creating two databases? (Two categories of objects.) One for objects sent by non-registries, and one for well maintained, authentic objects. Peoples could send objects to the level1 database, and registries could move the correct ones to level2. Level1 objects older than 6 months will be automatically and silently deleted. Level2 objects should be updated at least once a year, otherwise a warning message goes to the maintainer registry. After a certain period forgotten level2 objects go back to level1. All current object is on level1. Regards Gabor

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