Obtaining the address of a LIR for an object

Hi, how can I obtain the physical address of the LIR which created a database object (or which created the entity that created an object, recursively)? Thanks, Florian

Hi Florian, except for the well known whois DB, here you have LIRs listed by country: http://www.ripe.net/membership/indices/index.html Address/phone/fax info seems to be available with each LIR on the list. Cheers, Martin On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 02:55:04PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
Hi,
how can I obtain the physical address of the LIR which created a database object (or which created the entity that created an object, recursively)?
Thanks, Florian

* Martin Stanislav:
except for the well known whois DB, here you have LIRs listed by country:
http://www.ripe.net/membership/indices/index.html
Address/phone/fax info seems to be available with each LIR on the list.
Thanks. But what shall I do when the name in the mnt-by: object doesn't match any of the listed companies?

On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 04:41:23PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Martin Stanislav:
except for the well known whois DB, here you have LIRs listed by country:
http://www.ripe.net/membership/indices/index.html
Address/phone/fax info seems to be available with each LIR on the list.
Thanks. But what shall I do when the name in the mnt-by: object doesn't match any of the listed companies?
True, that's hard to correlate. I'd try to find an object connected to an IP resource (inetnum, inet6num, route, route6, aut-num) holding the same mnt-by value with help of an inverse query. whois -h whois.ripe.net '-T inetnum -r -i mnt-by MAINTAINER' whois -h whois.ripe.net '-T aut-num -r -i mnt-by MAINTAINER' Though, there is a possibility a particular maintainer object has been introduced into whois DB be a non-LIR entity. Martin

On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 05:45:57PM +0200, Martin Stanislav wrote:
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 04:41:23PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Martin Stanislav:
except for the well known whois DB, here you have LIRs listed by country:
http://www.ripe.net/membership/indices/index.html
Address/phone/fax info seems to be available with each LIR on the list.
Thanks. But what shall I do when the name in the mnt-by: object doesn't match any of the listed companies?
True, that's hard to correlate. I'd try to find an object connected to an IP resource (inetnum, inet6num, route, route6, aut-num) holding the same mnt-by value with help of an inverse query.
and (if one is lucky) getting also an org atribute in response. Martin PS pardon me the self-from-to db-help list contribution

* Martin Stanislav:
Though, there is a possibility a particular maintainer object has been introduced into whois DB be a non-LIR entity.
But then there would be a suitable changed: line, wouldn't it? Does RIPE NCC provide the data upon formal request from the relevant authorities?

On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 07:10:29PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Martin Stanislav:
Though, there is a possibility a particular maintainer object has been introduced into whois DB be a non-LIR entity.
But then there would be a suitable changed: line, wouldn't it?
Well, changed attribute is manadatory so there should be at least one for every maintainer object returned. Nowadays, one has to use '-B' whois switch to get back the changed atribute: # whois -h whois.ripe.net '-h' ... % -B Disables the filtering of "notify:", "changed:" and "e-mail:" % attributes. ... AFAIK it's technically possible to replace the original changed atribute provided you are able to pass one of the objects' mnt-by maintainer check (password/signature). This is something one shouldn't do - original changed atribute value should be kept.
Does RIPE NCC provide the data upon formal request from the relevant authorities?
Don't have any experience so can't comment on this. I expect archive whould contain at least the original submission requesting the maintainer object creation and also the subsequent modifications. Martin

* Martin Stanislav:
AFAIK it's technically possible to replace the original changed atribute provided you are able to pass one of the objects' mnt-by maintainer check (password/signature). This is something one shouldn't do - original changed atribute value should be kept.
Yeah, but if you want to put bogus data into the database, you can apparently use this feature to cover your tracks. *sigh*

* Florian Weimer:
* Martin Stanislav:
except for the well known whois DB, here you have LIRs listed by country:
http://www.ripe.net/membership/indices/index.html
Address/phone/fax info seems to be available with each LIR on the list.
Thanks. But what shall I do when the name in the mnt-by: object doesn't match any of the listed companies?
Would anyone from RIPE please answer this question?

Florian Weimer wrote:
* Florian Weimer:
* Martin Stanislav:
except for the well known whois DB, here you have LIRs listed by country:
http://www.ripe.net/membership/indices/index.html
Address/phone/fax info seems to be available with each LIR on the list. Thanks. But what shall I do when the name in the mnt-by: object doesn't match any of the listed companies?
Would anyone from RIPE please answer this question?
either: - mail lir-help@ripe.net - mail hostmaster@ripe.net Also note that it is weekend ;) Greets, Jeroen
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