The mood in Brussels today seemed to be that amendments in favour of network neutrality will be adopted. The text as agreed in the ITRE Committee can be found here: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=REPORT&reference=A7-2014-0190&language=EN On the same page, near the top you will see links to pdf files containing amendments 234-246. Those are the plenary amendments tabled by the political groups. Amendments 234-236 are those tabled by Ms Schaake on behalf of the ALDE Group. So tomorrow, Wednesday, we have the debate and then on Thursday the vote. That though is just the first reading. Then we have to see what the Council delivers. There seems to be less clarity there. Then institutional negotiations and then second reading. Gordon
Hello, I understood that the votation in the EP could be anticipated, it could happen already today in the early afternoon. Big operators are rumourosly moving against the NN reform in its entirety: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/04/01/battle-lines-drawn-over-net-neutralit... Kroes just wrote a letter to all MEPs: http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/content/open-letter-member... I wrote a short post contesting her assumptions: http://radiobruxelleslibera.wordpress.com/2014/04/02/the-confused-meaning-of... Cheers, Inno ----------------------------------------- Innocenzo Genna Genna Cabinet Sprl 1050 Bruxelles - Belgium Skype: innonews Twitter: @InnoGenna Email: inno@innogenna.it my blog:http://radiobruxelleslibera.wordpress.com/ my music: www.innocenzogenna.com Il giorno 01/apr/2014, alle ore 22:15, Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> ha scritto:
The mood in Brussels today seemed to be that amendments in favour of network neutrality will be adopted.
The text as agreed in the ITRE Committee can be found here:
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=REPORT&reference=A7-2014-0190&language=EN
On the same page, near the top you will see links to pdf files containing amendments 234-246. Those are the plenary amendments tabled by the political groups. Amendments 234-236 are those tabled by Ms Schaake on behalf of the ALDE Group.
So tomorrow, Wednesday, we have the debate and then on Thursday the vote. That though is just the first reading.
Then we have to see what the Council delivers. There seems to be less clarity there.
Then institutional negotiations and then second reading.
Gordon
I liked your comment: "Unified in rejecting, confused in proposing." Unfortunately the "confusion" is fairly widespread! And no signs of it getting better anytime soon. Gordon On 2 Apr, 2014, at 02:45, Innocenzo Genna <inno@innogenna.it> wrote:
Hello,
I understood that the votation in the EP could be anticipated, it could happen already today in the early afternoon. Big operators are rumourosly moving against the NN reform in its entirety: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/04/01/battle-lines-drawn-over-net-neutralit... Kroes just wrote a letter to all MEPs: http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/content/open-letter-member... I wrote a short post contesting her assumptions: http://radiobruxelleslibera.wordpress.com/2014/04/02/the-confused-meaning-of...
Cheers,
Inno
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So we have had the vote in Parliament. See: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26865869 and elsewhere. Now we wait for Council. Gordon
By the way not everybody is happy. See: "The electronic communications industry is highly concerned about the recent developments of the open internet debate at European level. Whilst we support an open internet, a set of misconceptions about our industry, together with a rushed legislative process and a lack of technical analysis, risk transforming the Connected Continent Regulation into an anti-innovation and anti-consumer choice legislation." http://www.cable-europe.eu/joint-e-communications-industry-statement-on-the-... Gordon
Pretty bold statement:
The electronic communications industry
I have so far only heard negative views from ETNO and these guys, CableEurope. Not the whole electronic communications industry. Patrik On 3 apr 2014, at 17:07, Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote:
By the way not everybody is happy.
See:
"The electronic communications industry is highly concerned about the recent developments of the open internet debate at European level. Whilst we support an open internet, a set of misconceptions about our industry, together with a rushed legislative process and a lack of technical analysis, risk transforming the Connected Continent Regulation into an anti-innovation and anti-consumer choice legislation."
http://www.cable-europe.eu/joint-e-communications-industry-statement-on-the-...
Gordon
GSMA and ECTA are also against the position taken by the EP Euroispa is silent (different positions amongst members) ----------------------------------------- Innocenzo Genna Genna Cabinet Sprl 1050 Bruxelles - Belgium Skype: innonews Twitter: @InnoGenna Email: inno@innogenna.it my blog:http://radiobruxelleslibera.wordpress.com/ my music: www.innocenzogenna.com Il giorno 03/apr/2014, alle ore 19:30, Patrik Fältström <patrik@frobbit.se> ha scritto:
Pretty bold statement:
The electronic communications industry
I have so far only heard negative views from ETNO and these guys, CableEurope.
Not the whole electronic communications industry.
Patrik
On 3 apr 2014, at 17:07, Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote:
By the way not everybody is happy.
See:
"The electronic communications industry is highly concerned about the recent developments of the open internet debate at European level. Whilst we support an open internet, a set of misconceptions about our industry, together with a rushed legislative process and a lack of technical analysis, risk transforming the Connected Continent Regulation into an anti-innovation and anti-consumer choice legislation."
http://www.cable-europe.eu/joint-e-communications-industry-statement-on-the-...
Gordon
So the headlines looked very positive for net neutrality: << "Today's vote is a great step towards strengthening the telecommunications single market. Parliament wants to abolish retail roaming charges for voice, SMS and data by 15 December 2015 and improve radio spectrum management to develop 4G and 5G throughout Europe", said rapporteur Pilar del Castillo Vera (EPP, ES). “We have achieved further guarantees to maintain the openness of the Internet by ensuring that users can run and provide applications and services of their choice as well as reinforcing the Internet as a key driver of competitiveness, economic growth, jobs, social development and innovation”, she added. Ms del Castillo's report was approved by 534 votes to 25, with 58 abstentions. >> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/content/20140331IPR41232/htm... However the detail going forward is less clear. There were as is normal a number of earlier votes in plenary on the various amendments. Those votes were often a bit closer. Then of course the big vote was a foregone conclusion? Well who was going to vote against a package with the roaming part in it? So soon we will get a new set of MEPs whose representatives will then negotiate with the Council on the basis of what the Parliament just adopted. Where is the Council on this? Well there are some views on EDRi's web-site: http://edri.org/net-neutrality-happens-next/ The mood in Brussels yesterday - there was yet another net neutrality event - was that this is not over yet by any means. Gordon The text: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P7-TA-2014-0281+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN&language=EN The votes: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2f%2fEP%2f%2fNONSGML%2bPV%2b20140403%2bRES-VOT%2bDOC%2bPDF%2bV0%2f%2fEN&language=EN
On 10 apr 2014, at 18:40, Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote:
Then of course the big vote was a foregone conclusion? Well who was going to vote against a package with the roaming part in it?
I have seen the amendments regarding net neutrality, but not the text about roaming. Does anyone have that so it is possible to see what it actually says? Patrik
My previous post gave a link to the adopted text (amendments, deletions, additions). So there you have the state of play on the whole package. I also supplied a link to the various plenary votes. Happy reading! Gordon PS It would be fun if there was a way to somehow quantify the "distance" between the Commission's proposal and the text the Parliament adopted. On 11 Apr, 2014, at 06:46, Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> wrote:
On 10 apr 2014, at 18:40, Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote:
Then of course the big vote was a foregone conclusion? Well who was going to vote against a package with the roaming part in it?
I have seen the amendments regarding net neutrality, but not the text about roaming.
Does anyone have that so it is possible to see what it actually says?
Patrik
Ok, sorry, it was unclear to me what link went where. I will re-read the thread. Patrik On 11 apr 2014, at 07:16, Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote:
My previous post gave a link to the adopted text (amendments, deletions, additions).
So there you have the state of play on the whole package.
I also supplied a link to the various plenary votes.
Happy reading!
Gordon
PS It would be fun if there was a way to somehow quantify the "distance" between the Commission's proposal and the text the Parliament adopted.
On 11 Apr, 2014, at 06:46, Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> wrote:
On 10 apr 2014, at 18:40, Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote:
Then of course the big vote was a foregone conclusion? Well who was going to vote against a package with the roaming part in it?
I have seen the amendments regarding net neutrality, but not the text about roaming.
Does anyone have that so it is possible to see what it actually says?
Patrik
On 11 Apr, 2014, at 06:46, Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> wrote:
On 10 apr 2014, at 18:40, Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote:
Then of course the big vote was a foregone conclusion? Well who was going to vote against a package with the roaming part in it?
I have seen the amendments regarding net neutrality, but not the text about roaming.
Does anyone have that so it is possible to see what it actually says?
Patrik
For those who are interested in who voted for what in the parliament then this can be fun. Colour! Pie-charts! http://www.votewatch.eu/ You can sort on vote, individuals, parties, member state. So you can easily see what the votes were on individual amendments before the final vote on the package. See for example: http://www.votewatch.eu/en/european-parliament-latest-votes.html#/#BOTH/0/20... http://www.votewatch.eu/en/european-single-market-for-electronic-communicati... http://www.votewatch.eu/en/european-single-market-for-electronic-communicati... So check out how your MEP did! Gordon
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