Re: [cooperation-wg] cooperation-wg Digest, Vol 54, Issue 6
Dear all, I would like to echo the sentiments by Gordon and Julf. It is a great loss for the cooperation WG that Meredith has decided to step down, and I hope she reconsiders. I cannot speak for the group, but I want to say that her enthusiasm, experience and dedication will be sorely missed. Something we will all realize soon enough. The same holds for Collin's efforts and support to the WG. I hope the remaining candidates are not scared away by what seems to be politics with a very very tiny 'p', that have colored the discussions and going-ons of late in this WG. I also believe that we should move swiftly in putting in place new (co) chairs, and I support Gordon's suggestions on how to move forward. Best, Corinne Cath On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 11:00 AM, <cooperation-wg-request@ripe.net> wrote:
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1. Co-chairs - current status? (Gordon Lennox) 2. Re: Co-chairs - current status? (Johan Helsingius) 3. Re: Co-chairs - current status? (Meredith Whittaker)
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:42:57 +0200 From: Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> To: Cooperation WG <cooperation-wg@ripe.net> Subject: [cooperation-wg] Co-chairs - current status? Message-ID: <24422550-1783-44F4-9388-828F77F2B9A4@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I very much regret that Meredith felt it necessary to step down as she has done. I have already written to her with my personal thanks for the effort she put in.
However in her most recent e-mail she recalled that we had four candidates for the positions of co-chair:
? Achilleas Kemos ? Collin Anderson ? Julf Helsingius ? Analia Aspis
After explaining various things she wrote, "In my place, I will appoint Collin, Achilleas, and Julf as co-chairs.?
Since then Collin has also sadly stepped down.
May I ask if Achilleas and Julf still consider themselves candidates and whether they are ready to work together as co-chairs for the WG.
I would hope this to be the case. But it would help us all if they could confirm promptly and allow us to formalise things and to move on.
We can then look at the appointment of a third co-chair when things have settled down.
Gordon
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:59:26 +0200 From: Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Co-chairs - current status? Message-ID: <5786574E.1050906@julf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Gordon,
I very much regret that Meredith felt it necessary to step down as she has done.
I agree - I really hope Meredith will re-consider, as I think we all agree that her contributions have been extremely valuable, and would certainly continue to be so. The same goes for Collin - and I don't think anyone in this WG had any desire to replace either of them, simply to provide additional support and resources.
May I ask if Achilleas and Julf still consider themselves candidates and whether they are ready to work together as co-chairs for the WG.
I hereby confirm that I am still ready to work as co-chair, but I sincerely hope Meredith and Collin will reconsider their positions.
Julf
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Message: 3 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:51:22 -0400 From: Meredith Whittaker <meredithrachel@google.com> To: Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> Cc: "cooperation-wg@ripe.net" <cooperation-wg@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Co-chairs - current status? Message-ID: < CAHx-7Ow+6S+bwvM3p8yT_bdHctzju_PN3SDrkmKsEDHZZKC9QA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Julf, Gordon,
Thank you for your kind words.
I am not planning to reconsider stepping down, although I appreciate the entreaty. This due both to the climate on the WG list, and to my personal workload, which was already making it very difficult to act as chair. Note that Collin has never been an "official" WG chair. He has merely dedicated his time and expertise to the group in the past.
Thanks, Meredith
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> wrote:
Gordon,
I very much regret that Meredith felt it necessary to step down as she has done.
I agree - I really hope Meredith will re-consider, as I think we all agree that her contributions have been extremely valuable, and would certainly continue to be so. The same goes for Collin - and I don't think anyone in this WG had any desire to replace either of them, simply to provide additional support and resources.
May I ask if Achilleas and Julf still consider themselves candidates and whether they are ready to work together as co-chairs for the WG.
I hereby confirm that I am still ready to work as co-chair, but I sincerely hope Meredith and Collin will reconsider their positions.
Julf
-- Meredith Whittaker Open Research Lead Google NYC
+1 Corinne Best, -Michael On Jul 14, 2016 3:29 PM, "Corinne Cath" <corinnecath@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all,
I would like to echo the sentiments by Gordon and Julf. It is a great loss for the cooperation WG that Meredith has decided to step down, and I hope she reconsiders. I cannot speak for the group, but I want to say that her enthusiasm, experience and dedication will be sorely missed. Something we will all realize soon enough. The same holds for Collin's efforts and support to the WG.
I hope the remaining candidates are not scared away by what seems to be politics with a very very tiny 'p', that have colored the discussions and going-ons of late in this WG. I also believe that we should move swiftly in putting in place new (co) chairs, and I support Gordon's suggestions on how to move forward.
Best,
Corinne Cath
On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 11:00 AM, <cooperation-wg-request@ripe.net> wrote:
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Today's Topics:
1. Co-chairs - current status? (Gordon Lennox) 2. Re: Co-chairs - current status? (Johan Helsingius) 3. Re: Co-chairs - current status? (Meredith Whittaker)
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:42:57 +0200 From: Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> To: Cooperation WG <cooperation-wg@ripe.net> Subject: [cooperation-wg] Co-chairs - current status? Message-ID: <24422550-1783-44F4-9388-828F77F2B9A4@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I very much regret that Meredith felt it necessary to step down as she has done. I have already written to her with my personal thanks for the effort she put in.
However in her most recent e-mail she recalled that we had four candidates for the positions of co-chair:
? Achilleas Kemos ? Collin Anderson ? Julf Helsingius ? Analia Aspis
After explaining various things she wrote, "In my place, I will appoint Collin, Achilleas, and Julf as co-chairs.?
Since then Collin has also sadly stepped down.
May I ask if Achilleas and Julf still consider themselves candidates and whether they are ready to work together as co-chairs for the WG.
I would hope this to be the case. But it would help us all if they could confirm promptly and allow us to formalise things and to move on.
We can then look at the appointment of a third co-chair when things have settled down.
Gordon
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:59:26 +0200 From: Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Co-chairs - current status? Message-ID: <5786574E.1050906@julf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Gordon,
I very much regret that Meredith felt it necessary to step down as she has done.
I agree - I really hope Meredith will re-consider, as I think we all agree that her contributions have been extremely valuable, and would certainly continue to be so. The same goes for Collin - and I don't think anyone in this WG had any desire to replace either of them, simply to provide additional support and resources.
May I ask if Achilleas and Julf still consider themselves candidates and whether they are ready to work together as co-chairs for the WG.
I hereby confirm that I am still ready to work as co-chair, but I sincerely hope Meredith and Collin will reconsider their positions.
Julf
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Message: 3 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:51:22 -0400 From: Meredith Whittaker <meredithrachel@google.com> To: Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> Cc: "cooperation-wg@ripe.net" <cooperation-wg@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Co-chairs - current status? Message-ID: < CAHx-7Ow+6S+bwvM3p8yT_bdHctzju_PN3SDrkmKsEDHZZKC9QA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Julf, Gordon,
Thank you for your kind words.
I am not planning to reconsider stepping down, although I appreciate the entreaty. This due both to the climate on the WG list, and to my personal workload, which was already making it very difficult to act as chair. Note that Collin has never been an "official" WG chair. He has merely dedicated his time and expertise to the group in the past.
Thanks, Meredith
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> wrote:
Gordon,
I very much regret that Meredith felt it necessary to step down as she has done.
I agree - I really hope Meredith will re-consider, as I think we all agree that her contributions have been extremely valuable, and would certainly continue to be so. The same goes for Collin - and I don't think anyone in this WG had any desire to replace either of them, simply to provide additional support and resources.
May I ask if Achilleas and Julf still consider themselves candidates and whether they are ready to work together as co-chairs for the WG.
I hereby confirm that I am still ready to work as co-chair, but I sincerely hope Meredith and Collin will reconsider their positions.
Julf
-- Meredith Whittaker Open Research Lead Google NYC
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