Call for Agenda Items RIPE73 - Cooperation WG
Dear group members, Our meeting at RIPE73 is just one month away and we are in the process of finalising the agenda. If you would like to suggest a topic for discussion or have a presentation you have or would like to see presented, please get in touch with us. Best regards, Julf & Achilleas
I would like to suggest: Ipv6 deployment status in EU govs - I can bring our part "de.gov and subsequent adressspace planning, routing, using profiles"-10 min - Status of testa ng and ISA 2 from EU COM and Germany Messages from cooperation wg to IGF in Mexico - We can talk about IGF Germany Constanze Constanze Bürger Masters Degree in Computer Science Federal Ministry of the Interior Division ITI5 IT and Network Infrastructures in the public administration address Alt-Moabit 140, D 10557 Berlin phone +49 30 18 681-10617 E-Mail Constanze.Buerger@bmi.bund.de Von: cooperation-wg [mailto:cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net] Im Auftrag von Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu Gesendet: Montag, 26. September 2016 22:24 An: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Betreff: [cooperation-wg] Call for Agenda Items RIPE73 - Cooperation WG Dear group members, Our meeting at RIPE73 is just one month away and we are in the process of finalising the agenda. If you would like to suggest a topic for discussion or have a presentation you have or would like to see presented, please get in touch with us. Best regards, Julf & Achilleas
And IPv6 deployment in the European institutions, especially the Commission? Gordon
On 28 Sep 2016, at 09:36, Constanze.Buerger@bmi.bund.de wrote:
I would like to suggest: Ipv6 deployment status in EU govs - I can bring our part “de.gov <http://de.gov/> and subsequent adressspace planning, routing, using profiles”-10 min - Status of testa ng and ISA 2 from EU COM and Germany Messages from cooperation wg to IGF in Mexico - We can talk about IGF Germany Constanze
Constanze Bürger Masters Degree in Computer Science Federal Ministry of the Interior Division ITI5 IT and Network Infrastructures in the public administration ADDRESS Alt-Moabit 140, D 10557 Berlin PHONE +49 30 18 681-10617 E-MAIL Constanze.Buerger@bmi.bund.de <mailto:Constanze.Buerger@bmi.bund.de>
Von: cooperation-wg [mailto:cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net <mailto:cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net>] Im Auftrag von Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu <mailto:Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu> Gesendet: Montag, 26. September 2016 22:24 An: cooperation-wg@ripe.net <mailto:cooperation-wg@ripe.net> Betreff: [cooperation-wg] Call for Agenda Items RIPE73 - Cooperation WG
Dear group members,
Our meeting at RIPE73 is just one month away and we are in the process of finalising the agenda.
If you would like to suggest a topic for discussion or have a presentation you have or would like to see presented, please get in touch with us.
Best regards,
Julf & Achilleas
Sure, why not IPv6. Always good. I cannot be in Madrid myself, but I think the EC intentions to reform the copyright protection regime are of interest to the group. I’d certainly like to learn more about this. See leaked document at http://statewatch.org/news/2016/aug/eu-com-copyright-draft.pdf (This Impact Assessment acts as a policymaking blueprint, where the Commission provides political justification for the legislative action it will take, assessing the potential impact on stakeholders.) Identified problem on page 124 : ‘Right holders face great difficulties, or are unable, to negotiate with online service providers that store and give access to large amounts of protected content uploaded by their users. This results in right holders having limited control over the use and the remuneration for the use of their content’ Page 132 suggests as a solution (‘option 2’) ‘An obligation on user uploaded content services to seek, in good faith, to conclude agreements with rightsholders and to put in place appropriate and proportionate content identification technologies’ (So much for mere conduit and non-liability for hosters?) Identified problem on page 141: ‘The shift from print to digital has enlarged the audience of newspapers, magazines and other publications but made the exploitation and enforcement of the rights in publications increasingly difficult. In addition, publishers face difficulties as regards compensation for uses under exceptions’ Pages 147-148 suggest as solutions 'The introduction in EU law of a related right covering online use of news publications plus the introduction in EU law of the possibility for Member States to provide that publishers may claim compensation for uses under an exception (i.e. a snippet tax)' See also https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/08/european-copyright-leak-exposes-plans-... ‘If these recommendations by the European Commission are put in place, Europe's Internet will never be the same, and these impacts are likely to reverberate around the world.' -Bastiaan
On 28 Sep 2016, at 09:59, Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote:
And IPv6 deployment in the European institutions, especially the Commission?
Gordon
On 28 Sep 2016, at 09:36, Constanze.Buerger@bmi.bund.de wrote:
I would like to suggest: Ipv6 deployment status in EU govs - I can bring our part “de.gov and subsequent adressspace planning, routing, using profiles”-10 min - Status of testa ng and ISA 2 from EU COM and Germany Messages from cooperation wg to IGF in Mexico - We can talk about IGF Germany Constanze
Constanze Bürger Masters Degree in Computer Science Federal Ministry of the Interior Division ITI5 IT and Network Infrastructures in the public administration ADDRESS Alt-Moabit 140, D 10557 Berlin PHONE +49 30 18 681-10617 E-MAIL Constanze.Buerger@bmi.bund.de
Von: cooperation-wg [mailto:cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net] Im Auftrag von Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu Gesendet: Montag, 26. September 2016 22:24 An: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Betreff: [cooperation-wg] Call for Agenda Items RIPE73 - Cooperation WG
Dear group members,
Our meeting at RIPE73 is just one month away and we are in the process of finalising the agenda.
If you would like to suggest a topic for discussion or have a presentation you have or would like to see presented, please get in touch with us.
Best regards,
Julf & Achilleas
Would be great Von: Gordon Lennox [mailto:gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 09:59 An: Bürger, Constanze; Achilleas Kemos; Cooperation WG Cc: lorena@collaboratory.de Betreff: Re: [cooperation-wg] Call for Agenda Items RIPE73 - Cooperation WG And IPv6 deployment in the European institutions, especially the Commission? Gordon On 28 Sep 2016, at 09:36, Constanze.Buerger@bmi.bund.de<mailto:Constanze.Buerger@bmi.bund.de> wrote: I would like to suggest: Ipv6 deployment status in EU govs - I can bring our part “de.gov<http://de.gov/> and subsequent adressspace planning, routing, using profiles”-10 min - Status of testa ng and ISA 2 from EU COM and Germany Messages from cooperation wg to IGF in Mexico - We can talk about IGF Germany Constanze Constanze Bürger Masters Degree in Computer Science Federal Ministry of the Interior Division ITI5 IT and Network Infrastructures in the public administration ADDRESS Alt-Moabit 140, D 10557 Berlin PHONE +49 30 18 681-10617 E-MAIL Constanze.Buerger@bmi.bund.de<mailto:Constanze.Buerger@bmi.bund.de> Von: cooperation-wg [mailto:cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net] Im Auftrag von Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu<mailto:Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu> Gesendet: Montag, 26. September 2016 22:24 An: cooperation-wg@ripe.net<mailto:cooperation-wg@ripe.net> Betreff: [cooperation-wg] Call for Agenda Items RIPE73 - Cooperation WG Dear group members, Our meeting at RIPE73 is just one month away and we are in the process of finalising the agenda. If you would like to suggest a topic for discussion or have a presentation you have or would like to see presented, please get in touch with us. Best regards, Julf & Achilleas
Constanze, all, If I may suggest, maybe we can combine the topics. Similar as last year, I am involved in the IGF Best Practice Forum on IPv6. Last year’s discussion and output document did mention, amongst other things, the notion that governments, by deploying IPv6, could provide incentive for the market to offer IPv6 products and services. As many governments in our service region have deployed such measures and other governments are still looking at making IPv6 mandatory for government ICT purchases and eGovernment services, maybe we can use this group to evaluate the effect of these measures. This would also likely benefit this year’s Best Practice Forum, which is already underway in assessing the economic and commercial drivers that lie behind a successful adoption of IPv6 by operators and service providers. In particular, from talking with several governments and observations in market adoption, it seems we are still somewhat caught in a loop where governments still struggle toi meet their objectives because the offerings from the market are limit. While at the same time several operators still claim that lack of demand is a significant obstruction in the deployment of IPv6. Maybe the cooperation group would be a nice place to bring these two sides together and see if there is a way to break out of this circle. Regards, Marco Hogewoning -- External Relations - RIPE NCC
On 28 Sep 2016, at 09:36, Constanze.Buerger@bmi.bund.de wrote:
I would like to suggest: Ipv6 deployment status in EU govs - I can bring our part “de.gov and subsequent adressspace planning, routing, using profiles”-10 min - Status of testa ng and ISA 2 from EU COM and Germany Messages from cooperation wg to IGF in Mexico - We can talk about IGF Germany Constanze
Constanze Bürger Masters Degree in Computer Science Federal Ministry of the Interior Division ITI5 IT and Network Infrastructures in the public administration ADDRESS Alt-Moabit 140, D 10557 Berlin PHONE +49 30 18 681-10617 E-MAIL Constanze.Buerger@bmi.bund.de
Von: cooperation-wg [mailto:cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net] Im Auftrag von Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu Gesendet: Montag, 26. September 2016 22:24 An: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Betreff: [cooperation-wg] Call for Agenda Items RIPE73 - Cooperation WG
Dear group members,
Our meeting at RIPE73 is just one month away and we are in the process of finalising the agenda.
If you would like to suggest a topic for discussion or have a presentation you have or would like to see presented, please get in touch with us.
Best regards,
Julf & Achilleas
IPv6 and the EU, and particularly the European Commission? I seem to remember talking about IPv6 and what the Commission was doing at previous RIPE meetings. But I think that was: a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. So long ago that some of the related links from Google to ripe.net are now broken. Anyway the Commission adopted two Communications. One in 2002: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-02-284_en.htm?locale=en http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:52002DC0096&from=EN And one in 2008: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-08-803_en.htm http://ec.europa.eu/transparency/regdoc/rep/1/2008/EN/1-2008-313-EN-F1-1.Pdf There was also a significant amount of funding allocated to projects related to IPv6. That is why it would be interesting to know where the EU institutions, and especially the Commission, are in using IPv6 now. Gordon
Another interesting topic could be how the Commission, DG Connect, sees how all their intended investments in 5G - political and regulatory and financial - relate to the internet. At the "Net Futures" event earlier this year, Commissioner Oettinger said: << They (communication networks) need to move from "one size fits all" and "best effort", towards networks that can adapt to the versatile requirements of many industries, and that can deliver guaranteed and ubiquitous quality of service. >> When one thinks of the various fundamentals of the internet there is a major mismatch there. Gordon
participants (5)
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Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu
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Bastiaan Goslings
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Constanze.Buerger@bmi.bund.de
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Gordon Lennox
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Marco Hogewoning