Apologies I missed the previous email. On my talk I reflected on the gap that exists between more technical (eg, RIPE, IETF) and less-technical communities/stakeholders (eg, policy makers, civil society). How technical communities strive for openness and transparency (eg, public mail-lists, open standards) and how that does result in accessible information for less-technical stakeholders. I discussed how analytics can leverage openness to help understand dynamics that occur in technical forums. I exemplified this by analysing 20 years of IETF data and showing some of its inner dynamics and trends. This is just one of the pieces of the puzzle and I totally agree that bridging across the gap requires people that can act as "translators/interpreters" across communities. I think that the bird-eye view that these analytics can provide can help them in doing so. Best, Ignacio does not imply accessible. I have perceived that less-technical communities/stakeholders struggle to understand and relate to the technical ones. -----Original Message----- From: cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Niall O'Reilly Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 11:47 AM To: RIPE Cooperation Working Group <cooperation-wg@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Bridging the Gap Someone who wasn't at the session asked me what I was referring to. I can see that, without the context, it be baffling. I hope this clarifies what I meant. I am very grateful to that someone (you know who you are!) for asking me to explain. On 30 Nov 2023, at 14:26, Niall O'Reilly wrote:
I expect that, in order to address some aspects of the comprehension problem which Ignacio describes, we shall be looking to people in roles like Romain's and Innocenzo's to act as diplomatic intermediators between those who need to understand and those who can explain.
Ignacio Castro spoke in the Co-operation WG session about bridging the gap between Internet stakeholders, and explained that our processes, in RIPE and in the IETF, may well be open, but are, however, not very accessible to the un-initiated. The main thing which I took away from Ignacio's presentation was the imperative to create connections between key individuals on either side of the "comprehension gap" (my phrase), so as to facilitate reciprocal awareness between different stakeholder communities, such as between the technical community and government. In the same session, Romain Bosc, who is the RIPE NCC's new "Brussels agent", and Innocenzo Genna, who is EU Advisor for Namex, spoke about EU regulatory developments, respectively in general and with specific focus on the Digital Network Act. What I wanted to say in my earlier message was, that Romain and Innocenzo seem particularly well placed to set up contacts between people on either side of the "comprehension gap", so promoting constructive dialogue, and that we should encourage them to do so. I hope this helps. Niall PS. Material from the session is available via this URL: https://ripe87.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/coop-wg/ /N -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/cooperation-wg