It may not be that useful to discuss this in Vienna if nobody who was involved in producing these papers (requesting them or drafting them) is present. So one thought is that some effort could be made to ensure that an appropriate person from the Commission, from INFSO, is present. On the other hand why wait for Vienna? There is a RIPE/government roundtable in Amsterdam early next week. Perhaps questions could be put there and people could report back to the list. I would also suggest that people ask questions elsewhere and report back to the list. I would hope that everyone on this list knows which officials, which civil servants, from their country attend ICANN meetings and participate in the GAC. I would also hope that people know who is on the HLIG - the "high-level group" - from their country. And of course the personalities involved in the Commission, in DG INFSO, are well-known. I am not trying to raise the profile of these papers. I am just suggesting that any hesitance on the side of officials regarding participation on this list or even in the WG meetings need not be the end of the story. You should have no inhibitions about asking them questions directly and sharing what you learn. Do not worry. They are professionals after all. And your taxes pay their salaries. Gordon