Gordon, If I understand things correctly, you will be on site in Vienna. I have talked with you, and you have been cc:ed, on various communication and tries we have made from RIPE community on getting people from COM and specifically INFSO participating at the RIPE meeting. You can see one summary I have of this here: http://stupid.domain.name/node/1459 Now, the question to you is whether you are interested in presenting at the cooperation wg? There seems to be some confusion from COM side what RIPE is, and we do not understand COM. You are one of the few that understand both sides. Maybe you can talk and present, and do whatever you think is needed to maybe bridge the gap that might exist. Or let me phrase it differently: You are a man with opinion. If we give you 20-30 minutes of time including discussions, are you interested in using it for something interesting for whoever will come to the meeting? Patrik